User talk:Loandbehold90

Recent edits
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Your recent edits to Witchford (here) and Ely, Cambridgeshire (here) are welcome, thank you. I have modified your edits to remove un-sourced material (please see reliable sources and how to cite sources). In addition, please take care to mark your edit summaries appropriately. You may wish to review Help:Edit Summary. In particular, please ensure that an edit summary is only marked with a m (minor edit) if the change is superficial and does not alter meaning --Senra (Talk) 16:53, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

A kitten for you!
We appreciate your edits to Ely based articles

Senra (Talk) 20:50, 29 October 2011 (UTC) 

Edit summaries and sources
I have reviewed your recent contributions such as, , , and , all of which you marked as minor edits.

When not to mark an edit as a minor edit (from WP:MINOR) Feel free to ask me any questions you may have about this either here or on my talk page. You can also click talk in my signature --Senra (Talk) 20:51, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Adding or removing content in an article
 * Adding or removing visible tags or other templates in an article
 * Adding or removing references or external links in an article
 * Adding comments to a talk page

On a separate note, in Littleport, Cambridgeshire, there is a section on Harley Davidson which you added. The two references are not reliable sources. In fact they are personal web sites (i.e. self-published sources). I have left them both in for now but when you find more reliable sources whilst you are adding Ely based stuff to the world of Wikipedia, please replace these two dubious sources. Again, feel free to discuss this issue here or on my talk page --Senra (Talk) 20:51, 29 October 2011 (UTC)

Famous?
By now, you may be feeling that I am harassing you. This is not my intention. I am sincere in trying to help you edit articles in the East Cambs area as I really do feel you have a contribution to make. I still feel I must draw your attention (again) to words to watch such as your insertion of the word famous here. Even if such words are found in a reliable source, an encyclopaedia is no place for such puffery--Senra (Talk) 14:56, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Further clarification (if needed). I used the word picturesque (e.g. see ) in the article Little Thetford, which was referenced to an impeccable source (actually the book version, not the on-line version). I defended this peacock term, as being well sourced, all the way through the peer review and good article nomination processes. During the articles appearance at the featured article candidate process, the term was (almost) forcibly removed. C'est ça --Senra (Talk) 15:46, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Arguing that Harley Davidson is famous in global terms as a motorcycle manufacturer would be far easier to defend than the claim that Little Thetford is picturesque, which is purely subjective and any source to back it would be similarly subjective. 'Famous' (or any similar words or phrases such as 'noted' or 'globally known') is the relevant description to justify why a statue was erected in the first place. Elsewhere when I inserted reference to Burberry, I didn't say 'the famous clothing manufacturer' because it wasn't relevant to them having a factory in Littleport. I would argue that the word 'famous' in terms of Harley Davidson is definitely relevant to company's commemoration in statue form in the village and is in no way subjective puffery. In the Little Thetford example, if Constable had come to paint the village because he was impressed by its beauty and that was the inspiration for a painting, then there might be some justification for the description, but otherwise there is not. Loandbehold90 (talk) 16:26, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Given the tone of your above retort, I feel reluctant to continue to provide you with the Wikipedia editing advice which you so dearly need (e.g. your ... well known ... here). I have done my best to explain, I hope in reasonable terms (though arguably, in volume perhaps, close to WP:BITE), some of the ways in which your editing deviates from the preferred content and style determine by consensus at Wikipedia. On the basis of another of your recent comments, I had already decided to quietly fix some of your citations (such as, , and ) rather than further antagonise you by posting more instructions. I still encourage you to read the documents I linked to above and those on my user page or look at the list of featured articles and learn from those. In the meantime, you are not welcome to post on my user talk page; nor will I post on yours. I wish you luck --Senra (Talk) 18:10, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

There is no tone in my retort. I just disagree with your justifications.Loandbehold90 (talk) 18:17, 30 October 2011 (UTC)


 * I have struck parts of my above post which were made following frustrations that got the better of me. Do let me know if I can help in any way. I unreservedly apologise --Senra (Talk) 16:25, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Peer review of Ely, Cambridgeshire
Loandbehold90. I am notifying you of this peer review as you have recently edited the article.

--Senra (Talk) 01:03, 21 November 2011 (UTC)