User talk:LoelGuinness

October 2017
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Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, GuinnessOffice. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places, or things you have written about in the article Loel Guinness, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic, and it is important when editing Wikipedia articles that such connections be completely transparent. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, we ask that you please:


 * avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your family, friends, school, company, club, or organization, as well as any competing companies' projects or products;
 * instead, you are encouraged to propose changes on the Talk pages of affected article(s) (see the request edit template);
 * when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or to the website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

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Please take a few moments to read and review Wikipedia's policies regarding conflicts of interest, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies.

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 09:46, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Your username
Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "GuinnessOffice", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you personally, such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87".

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October 2017
Please stop making disruptive edits, as you did at Loel Guinness. If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. 331dot (talk) 10:08, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
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If you want to attempt to argue that Mr. Guinness does not meet Wikipedia's notability guidelines for biographies (WP:BIO), you need to do so in an Articles for Deletion discussion. See WP:AFD for more information on how to do that. However, the article is not going to be deleted just because you or Mr. Guinness want it to be. As long as he is written about in public, independent reliable sources and not being defamed, there isn't too much you can do. 331dot (talk) 10:12, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
 * I totally agree with 331dot. But even if the page survives a deletion discussion private information that is not known to the public can be removed and redacted. Or you can argue that the information is not relevant and does not have its place there but as you are a declared conflict of interest editor before editing I would suggest making an edit request a per WP:EDITREQ. Domdeparis (talk) 10:25, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Username again
You have changed your name to Loel Guinness; however, your previous posts suggest that you are a representative of Mr. Guinness, and not Mr. Guinness himself. If you represent him, you cannot use his name as your username as others will think you are Mr. Guinness. You must use a username that indicates you are an individual and that it is not being shared between others. 331dot (talk) 10:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)


 * Please address this concern by requesting a change of username. Accounts named after a specific, identifiable person must be used only by that person. Otherwise the account will be blocked to prevent damaging impersonation. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:37, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

Ownership of content
The article is up for deletion, and its future will be debated in that forum. While that is ongoing, I will let you know about Wikipedia's policy on ownership of article content. The subject of an article, or their representatives, have no right of ownership or editorial control over an article. Consensus is Wikipedia's fundamental model for editorial decision-making, and is marked by addressing legitimate concerns held by editors through a process of compromise while following Wikipedia policies.

From WP:AUTOPROB:
 * If Wikipedia has an article about you, we want it to be accurate, fair, balanced and neutral – to accurately reflect the sourced, cited opinions of reliable sources. If you believe reliable sources exist which will make the article more balanced, you can help by pointing other editors to such sources.


 * You may wish to make suggestions on the article's talk page or, if the problem is clear-cut and uncontroversial, you may wish to edit the page yourself. If your edit may be misinterpreted, you should explain it on the talk page. Note that if the fact has different interpretations, others will edit it. Your edits are more likely to be accepted if they are neutral and well-sourced to third parties.


 * If others do not agree with the changes you propose, you may pursue dispute resolution. For instance, the Biographies of living persons noticeboard may offer a forum for impartial contributors to help resolve differences.

From WP:PROUD:
 * The neutral point of view (NPOV) policy will ensure that both the good and the bad about you will be told, that whitewashing is not allowed, and that the conflict of interest (COI) guideline limits your ability to edit out any negative material from an article about yourself. There are serious consequences of ignoring these, and the "Law of Unintended Consequences" works on Wikipedia.

To summarize... if negative information exists about you, and it comes from a reliable, independent source, and it is written neutrally and with due weight, it is fair game for Wikipedia. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 17:51, 11 October 2017 (UTC)