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Category:TMG - Truck Mounted Gun
Hello, I saw the category you made, and I was wondering what the exact criteria were. Does it have to be a howitzer? If so, it should probably be Category:Truck-mounted howitzers. And if it's not just howitzers, does the Technical (vehicle) count? Or the Katyusha rocket launcher? Howicus (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

There is a description in category about criteria. TMG acronym is in use for more than a 2 decades in military and gun is in artillery reffed to howitzer or cannon. Somebody say howitzer and somebody say gun thinking on same kind of a weapon. Technical (vehicle) is more a commercial car(not truck) with manufacturer or improvised armour and weapons. Instead Technical vehicle which is broader term I would call it Car mounted gun vehicle. Usual's Tehnical vehicle terminology in military is some vehicle used as workshop or munition delivery vehicle or fuel cistern or something like that and that term should be argued.
 * Ok, I think I get what you mean, thanks. Howicus (talk) 00:49, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hi and thanks for contributing. Regarding some of your recent edits, please understand that it is not enough to place YouTube links or news footage (without sufficient written content) and pass them off as references. These do not qualify as reliable sources because they lack content and are open to misinterpretation. I have gone through your sources and some of them do provide good starting points but many still lack sufficient content to be able to verify there authenticity. Also, please note that when making new edits its not necessary (or polite) to change/remove previous reliable sources with your own. lastly, when placing references, take care not to add broken or moved links as this makes it more difficult to verify the source. Regards. Buttons (talk) 17:11, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

There's clearly a lot to address with you so I'll sum it up:


 * 1. Polo M-83 - the main point of that section is on the weapon itself not the platform. If you read the source it clearly states it is used as a potable device, on the M80A IFV and on the BOV (M-83) series of vehicles.
 * 2. Broken/dead/moved links that you have inserted as sources -
 * 3. References you have removed - (IISS 2010, pp. 190–191) International Institute for Strategic Studies; Hackett, James (ed.) (3 February 2010). The Military Balance 2010. London: Routledge. ISBN 1857435575. "The SIPRI Military Expenditure Database". Stockholm International Peace Research Institute. Retrieved 26 April 2013.
 * 4. Your edit on the active reserve section is littered with grammatical errors and very difficult to understand. Why did you include information on a "passive reserve" when that section is only dedicated to an active reserve? If you want to use 20,000 as the official figure, fine but don't include other information on it.
 * 4. Now I have my own question, why did you remove UNTSO, EUTM and EUNAVFOR from the peacekeeping list, when it is clearly cited in the source? Buttons (talk) 01:29, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

1.If you refer that I have added Polo M-83 to weapons list in equipment chapter of Serbian Army article you should understand following:

What is a platform and what is a weapon by your opinion? Polo M-83 is a weapon system for itself or you can call it standalone platform for engaging enemy's and have a crew that's operating him. If you consider your thinking's then we could say that for example Mig-29 is not a equipment and it couldn't be listed as weapon or equipment but missile R60 which is fired from platform Mig-29 is a weapon that should be listed. Same goes for example M84 tank why we list tank and not a projectile fired from barrel of tank. We could add projectile or missile but they are useless without a platform.

Mayutka-2T is missile system and nothing more and nothing less. It would be more accurate to write:
 * Malyutka-2T with portable suitcase launcher (9P111) and 9M14-2T missile
 * Polo M-83 with 9M14-2T missile

But Wikipedia is not that detailed in every segment if you look all articles about equipment, but it should make differences between two weapons system if there is as in this case.

2.First you need to say were I used links you written(what articles) as I don't remember that used them. Maybe it is someone else. I can say for myself that I don't use broken links or dead links for references except if any of my references did "died" in last few days without my knowledge. Maybe they have bee placed long ago by someone else especially janes.com links are in most articles in Wikipedia dead after year or two because janes.com is mostly paid services and removes news as time passes by and that old news are in their archives available to paid members. As I try to remember most things i am doing I am not a machine and I work on many articles in wiki and my job and private so you need to be more specific when you quote that I have done something with reference about article on wiki, day and time of insertion.

3.I remember that i have removed (IISS 2010, pp. 190–191) International Institute for Strategic Studies; Hackett, James (ed.) (3 February 2010). The Military Balance 2010. London: Routledge. ISBN 1857435575. for (IISS 2010, pp. 190–191) International Institute for Strategic Studies; Hackett, James (ed.) (3 February 2010). The Military Balance 2010. London: Routledge. ISBN 1857435575. reasons:
 * It was reference about reserve personnel that I have changed and gave up-to date references.
 * That reference is a book Military Balance 2010 and every data inside is from 2009 so i say again it is obsolete as new Law in Serbia parliament is passed in 2010 and cannot be considered as reference in current state
 * That book is not publicly available as it is on sale so it is a problem for most people to have it or read it(I personally do have it but most people don't) so when it is available other public source that everybody can access it is only justified to that kind of source for references.

For other quoted deleted link i have not do it and again if you say opposite you need to tell me in what article I have removed other references you have listed and on what day time? I cannot address such a question without exact information.

4.Can you list grammatical errors and tell me what is hard to understand to clarify it? And where it is said that section is only about active reserve or it is your assumption? Maybe you are mixing fit for services and reserve personnel. Every country has it own system so it is specifically written text about Serbia reserve system.

5.You stated as 4 but I understand your question and I clearly remember it is that I haven't touched anything about peacekeeping missions in article about {{Serbian Armed Forces]] if you are referring to that article. Maybe it is done by error trough undo process but then it is not only my error because you have given a name to your edits as I quote:"Since these two conflict, we'll keep both for now" referring to reserves reference From headline of your edits tell me what do you conclude? And my advice is that we talk in articles concrete not in my page because it is our goal as editors to make improvement of articles and not talking to each other on this way.

By looking all your questions i have gone trough article Serbian Armed Forces and removed all dead links to improve quality of article as I agree that dead references is not good and also corrected peacekeeping force information by using current data. Loesorion (talk) 06:54, 23 June 2013 (UTC)

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Greetings, Loesorion! You are correct, chemical munitions were not found deployed in Iraq, nor were any such munitions interdicted on their way to Iraq as the text claims (without testable references being offered) so I responded to your RFC for the relavant Wiki entry. Damotclese (talk) 16:09, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
 * 87 Orkan article has been fixed. Damotclese (talk) 15:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)


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Speedy deletion nomination of Sora 122mm
Hello Loesorion,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Sora 122mm for deletion, because it seems to be copied from another source.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to rewrite it in your own words, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Ironholds (talk) 00:37, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Loesorion, I'd really like you to address this problem, and also explain the sourcing standards you've used with other articles. It's fairly clear that the Sora 122mm article is simply a translated version of the VTI page; is this something you've been doing with your other created articles as well? Ironholds (talk) 00:43, 30 December 2013 (UTC)

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Are you sure this template was necessary? It looks like BRD to me. ☆ Bri (talk) 00:16, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

Yes it was necessary as user 842U had deleted many times sourced parts of articles written by me and other editors and have not gone to Talk page or restricted himself from further edits after calls to go to talk page. He has gone to talk page after warning so it proves that was effective measure. How it looks to you does not change what he was doing in first place as per Editing policy. Loesorion (talk) 00:25, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Well whatever. There's a long standing practice of not templating experienced editors. Wiki-etiquette says that leaving him a personal note would have been preferred. ☆ Bri (talk) 03:42, 28 January 2018 (UTC)

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Trebali bi da napravimo jedan template poput Template:Zastava firearms ali za proizvode i projekte VTI-ja. FkpCascais (talk) 17:41, 5 April 2018 (UTC) Thanks, I will look at templates and think how to make something similar for VTI, best regards. Loesorion (talk) 17:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC) I have created template for VTI feel free to use it and expand it. Loesorion (talk) 21:05, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! The template is great! FkpCascais (talk) 18:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

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Warning
Please do not edit war as you are on Airbus A220, your addition was challenged and you do not have a consensus so the polite think would be to revert until you get agreement on the talk page, note you may get blocked from editing, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 17:19, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

You deleted my edits for sake of "elegance" not for facts or some other valid reason, and while topic existed on Talk page of Airbus A220 article you again reverted my edit without even talking about it. So maybe you should be warned for engaging in editors war, and just because you don't like my edits done in good faith and in accordance with sources does not make you right to give me warning for something you are doing with edits obviously intentionally and without any proper reason. Wikipedia should be about facts and pages on Wikipedia are open for edits to everyone not just you and me. Using such cliche you are giving for my edits in this occasion any editor could be prevented to make any change on Wikipedia, so think again before you go with such steps, because same cliche could be also applied to every edit you do. Loesorion (talk) 17:36, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Airbus A220 shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you do not violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. - Ahunt (talk) 18:00, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

So you are warning fellow editor who before you have even started to be included in discussion about A220 warned other editor(not knowing he is administrator - later that becomes a mistake) not to engage in potential editors war. So it seems according to you that the one who warned others about possible editors war (wishing to avoid such situation) is not aware of 3R rule? How nice. And all that because I have tried to correct airbus A220 page to be in accordance with already given sources. Or because as you stated in your comment I have warned administrator and as you suggested in your comment I should be ready for consequences because of my warning to administrator when he is conducting tasks of editor. I cite user Ahunt from Talk page Airbus A220 :


 * User:Loesorion you may also want to refrain from edit warring against an admin as you have been doing. That is not the way to get your own way here and will likely end badly

Nice to know how some editors thinks how Wikipedia should be functioning. I will read this warning every time I come here just to remind myself of such conduct of fellow editors.

And as a personal note and reminder here on my Talk page i will notice that I was not trying to get my way here - Airbus A220 - but to edit Wikipedia in accordance with sources. I tough that Ownership of content is a rule of tumb, but clearly that is not a case with Airbus A220 page because when there I tried to edit that page I was practically given warning ""before we give you consensus on Talk page you cannot edit anything in this article"" Loesorion (talk) 11:44, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

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notice
Slatersteven (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Also wp:editwar.Slatersteven (talk) 14:16, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

So try not to engage in edit war. Discuss it in article Talk page where I started new section and do not remove edits with clear sources. Try to be polite to fellow editor and do not engage first in activities you accuse other without even reading sources prior that. Loesorion (talk) 19:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Indent
Please read wp:indent, its makes conversations easier.Slatersteven (talk) 14:35, 11 April 2021 (UTC) Pleas do not misuse my Talk page, you can post all relevant things in Talk page where I have started discussion and then polite ask me there to use indent if you need it, but I am not required to use it. Loesorion (talk) 19:02, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

August 2021
Please do not add original research or novel syntheses of published material to articles as you apparently did to Ashraf Ghani. Please cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. Thank you. ― Tartan357  Talk 23:25, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Amrullah Saleh, you may be blocked from editing. ― Tartan357  Talk 22:10, 20 August 2021 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Amrullah Saleh. ― Tartan357  Talk 22:29, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

You are doing this intentionally without proper reason, you delete my sourced edits in article Amrullah Saleh that are done within no original research policy rules as they stipulates. You should learn that WP:PRIMARYNOTBAD. And my usage of primary source is supported with secondary. Per WP:OR "Primary sources that have been reputably published may be used in Wikipedia, but only with care, because it is easy to misuse them"

Stop spamming here about rules you do not follow yourself. Loesorion (talk) 11:41, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

Important Notice
― Tartan357  Talk 23:26, 16 August 2021 (UTC)

You have my notes and replies in details in Talk page Talk:Ashraf Ghani, you have engaged in editors wars in that article with me and you have given me notice here for no reason and in same time you have added in article inappropriate function to one man declaring him a government in exile without any source to support that claim and in same time deleted my sourced contributions to that article. How about you respect Wikipedia policies first before requesting from others do so. Loesorion (talk) 11:55, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

President of Afghanistan.
Ghani is still according to the constitution of The Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (de facto government in exile) president. Fleeing does does not equal resignation, especially since The IRoA is still recognized as the de jure Afghan government. Real jtizzle (talk) 19:45, 17 August 2021 (UTC)


 * No he is not according to constitution and multiple sources he is ex or former president. There is no government in exile as one man does not form government and Government in exile to have any formal status for start must be accepted by host country and for any international legality such government must be formed under foreign invasion - origin country must be partly or totally occupied - which is clearly now not a case here. Please stop spamming my talk page about this as there is relevant discussion in related articles Talk pages. Loesorion (talk) 19:50, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

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Calling vandalism on edits
Hi, just a little heads up: I noticed that you're going back and forth with another editor on S-300. Their edits don't seem like vandalism, so please be careful not to call it that, even if they're misguided in the way you described. Eik Corell (talk) 15:31, 28 December 2021 (UTC)

Then how to tell someone that what he is doing is very wrong and that wrong amounts to vandalism of Wikipedia page. One or more editors behind one IP in this example are multiple time resurrecting material without proper source on a page and by doing so not complying with Verifiability and without any regard to Wikipedia core content policies.

In same time they are not engaged in properly open section in Talk page of article - while trough edits on page IP editors calls for one and in later revert even asks that I provide a source in order to not delete such material?

Nothing harsh in calling blue sky a blue sky so I have written "Stop vandalizing this page" that is not wrong because they are putting again on a page material without verifiable source.

That was not a personal attack but a warning in good faith. Misguided or not I don't know but I do not see a good faith there because he is not engaging I Talk page section and calls for one and resurrects deleted multiple time. So at end he is unregistered user that do not engage in talk page and in same time is doing reverts so what type of warning he can get because per [] he has to have Talk page in order for me to left a note there and if that IP is shared and seems to me it according to research I have done it is shared and belongs to Vodafone then who actually will read warning on shared IP address. And you are also saying "Their edits" - plural - so you know that there is more then one editor behind that IP address or you just guessing? Loesorion (talk) 21:53, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
 * The problem is with the source: I've spent some time poking around trying to find out if this source is reliable or not, and what I discovered was that there was no clear consensus. Some of the discussions I found: 1, 2, and 3. What I noticed is that all of these discussions have been hit by sockpuppet accounts, i.e #3 has dozens of socks saying it's unreliable. I've seen the source used elsewhere, supposedly as a reliable source, why I'm hesitant to call someone re-instating it vandalism. The Avia.pro article presents a bigger problem in that there's even less information on whether it is a reliable source. It would be nice to have more people have a look at this, but first step would probably just be to make sure they've seen your entry on the talk page, so I'll ping them there. Eik Corell (talk) 15:35, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Consensus there or not in this example this is clearly fake news as we all can read original source and trace a story to original publisher and that is Avia.pro and in there there is no mention of claims that middleeastmonitor.com is talking about in their story. In same time no official source exists to support a story they write about - they could not do so they used other unofficial source as cover for their fake story - stories like that brings click on internet and they use fake content in order to get public to visit them. I do not need to check other articles of same middleeastmonitor.com source to see this one is fake story - not based on real story. And yes that would be also a reason to have them on Reliable sources/Noticeboard and declare them unreliable but in same time that does not change that fake story was used on S-300 article and editor that objected my deletion and resurrected again that story was even asking me to provide new source for false claims after I deleted such claims from article. Avia.pro did not provide in their story false claims in a way as middleeastmonitor.com has - huge difference the way Avia.pro presented their story. Loesorion (talk) 22:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

February 2022
Hello, I'm RenatUK. I noticed that you recently removed content from ANNA News without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the removed content has been restored. If you would like to experiment, please use your sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Renat 16:51, 17 February 2022 (UTC) Renat 16:54, 17 February 2022 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy by adding commentary and your personal analysis into articles, as you did at ANNA News, you may be blocked from editing. Renat 17:47, 17 February 2022 (UTC)


 * What is neutral point of view? Mentioned page lacks NPOW. But Ok if you mind true and you often love propaganda then it is best to stop me from editing. Loesorion (talk) 17:37, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

April 2022
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to use talk pages for inappropriate discussion, you may be blocked from editing. Jeppiz (talk) 18:45, 3 April 2022 (UTC)


 * What editing, what article have I edited? I have used talk page in order to improve article and gave best possible source to prove my talking point as other sources used in article clearly engage in propaganda war with goal to smear one side, source have videos that nobody denies and show actual story. You can declare every discussion as forum per se. That does not make you right on contrary. You are preventing discussion on Talk page of article. You do not seek better sources but ways to remove discussions about a topic that proves editing on article page is wrong. Loesorion (talk) 20:14, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

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