User talk:Logger9/Archives/2010/October

Photos on History of the Olympic Mountains
Hi, Logger9. I noticed that the photo captions on History of the Olympic Mountains say "courtesy of..." various people, and yet the photos on Commons are listed as your own work that is released into the public domain. This seems contradictory: which one is right? Thanks! —hike395 (talk) 16:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, hike ! Try to look at it this way. I am one of those various people. logger9 (talk) 18:59, 17 October 2010 (UTC)  P.S. Nice to meet you :-)


 * Hi again. I'm not so much worried about giving proper credit, as the copyright issue. I'm guessing that you're R.M. Allman III :-). The main question is: did you take the photos, or did you scan them? If you took the photos, then everything is fine [although I'm not sure how J.E. Holm was involved...]. If J.E. Holm took a photo and you scanned a print or slide and uploaded it, then there's a problem. In this case, J.E. Holm would still hold the copyright, and you would have to ask his/her permission to release it under a free license before it would be permitted to reside at Commons.


 * If you took the photo as a work-for-hire (or transferred the copyright), say, for The Mountaineers, you would have to ask the organization that holds the copyright.


 * Hope this helps. —hike395 (talk) 19:34, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I am perfectly aware of the rules. As clearly indicated, these photos (images) were all taken (created) by me. If not, I would not have stated so. logger9 (talk) 03:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry --- given the "courtesy of" in the image captions, it wasn't clear to me whether "own work" meant photographing or scanning. It's good news that those are your own photos. WP:CREDITS tells us that we shouldn't put attribution into WP photo captions. I was planning on transferring the credits back to the Commons page: I just wasn't sure how to treat J.E. Holm and the Mountaineers. Can you help me out & let me know how I should mention them in the Commons files? "Courtesy of" could mean anything, up to taking the photos. —hike395 (talk) 04:33, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Simplify. Just leave their names out of it. logger9 (talk) 16:18, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * OK. If you decide to change it later, feel free! —hike395 (talk) 17:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)