User talk:Londo06/Archive 1

Paul Clough
A tag has been placed on Paul Clough, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable (see the guidelines for notability here). If you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

Please read the criteria for speedy deletion (specifically, articles #7) and our general biography criteria. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Kon-Tiki001 10:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)


 * also the tag states... "The speedy deletion of this page is contested. The person placing this notice intends to dispute the speedy deletion of this article on its talk page, and requests that this page not be deleted in the meantime. Note that this request is not binding, and the page may still be deleted if it is considered that the page unquestionably meets the speedy deletion criteria, or if the promised explanation is not provided very soon." (emphasis mine) Nashville Monkey 10:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Paul Clough, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable (see the guidelines for notability here). If you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add  on the top of the page and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself.

Please read the criteria for speedy deletion (specifically, articles #7) and our general biography criteria. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Londo06 11:53, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, that doesn't even begin to be an explanation of what you're doing to fix the problem, plus, any explanation goes on the talk page of the article in question. Nashville Monkey 12:17, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Paul Clough, Steve Tyrer, Steve Bannister
These are all being discussed at Articles for deletion/Paul Clough. Please do contribute your thoughts on the question. I have to say, unless they've played for St Helens first team, the chances aren't good that they'll be kept. Cheers ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Paul Clough has played first team. Other two are additions to the first team and so fail to meet the protocol for space on Wikipedia


 * Yes, but have they played a first team match for any other team ? Capped Under-19 I suppose ? People are open to persuasion ... have they been interviewed on TV, papers, magazines ? Any big features on them in the press ? Stuff like that makes a difference ! Have a read at the WP:BIO page and you'll see what kind of things people look for. And please sign comments with four tildes. Like ~ &larr; that. Thanks ! Angus McLellan (Talk) 16:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Paul Clough played professional rugby league back in the 2005 season, also playing first grade rugby league for St Helens in the Super League in the 2006 season. He has featured in magazines and also numerous regional papers. ~ User:Londo06 (Talk) 17:12, 3 December 2006


 * Well, it was the other two guys I meant, Clough is in no danger of being deleted. Anything about them ? Angus McLellan (Talk) 17:34, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Both Tyrer and Bannister have played no first team rugby football. I am happy that they do not meet the specifications for Wikipedia usage. I agree that they would of limited interest to those outside those who would already know about these new players to the St Helens Rugby League squad. ~ User:Londo06 (Talk) 18:00, 3 December 2006

Hmm, you haven't quite got the signature right. Just 4 ~s is all you need. If you want, you can make a copy of the the Steves in a sandbox under your user page, like User:Londo06/Steve Tyrer. Copy everything, except any stub templates or categories. That way, when they do play for the first team, you can recreate them more easily. Once you've made a copy somewhere, just add db-author to the top of the page, and they will be deleted. If you need a hand, just leave a note here and I can make the copies for you. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 18:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

I also would have no further problem with Paul Clough if references to the mainstream magazine articles emphasizing his noteriety were to be placed into the article. Nashville Monkey 22:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Londo06
I added the wronglicense tag because the present license says that it is the uploader's work, however, in the summary, this is clearly not the case. Metros232 14:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

Could you point me in the right direction for the correct assertion of license. I have the express permission to use the club photos to post on wikipedia. I have been told that the copyright has been transferred to me, and as such I am allowed to use the pictures to depict the players of the club. I have sought and recieved this permission.

Can you give me the correct term or category under which the license falls. Londo06 18:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Peter Cusack
I moved the rugby player page to Peter Cusack, rugby player. I hope you do not mind.--Filll 03:09, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: St Helens RLFC
I reverted the article to the latest version you created as an unregistered user had replaced "St Helens are the most successful Rugby League club in the Superleague era." with "St Helens are the 2nd most successful Rugby League club in the whole of Great Britain behind Warrington RLFC.". I chose yor version as I believed it to be the most recent. Rehnn83-- 11:52, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Additional I've just re-read the post you put on my talk page. I didn't revert beacuse of vandalism by you. Because of Vandalism by someone else I revereted to the last edit by you. Hope this clears up any misunderstanding. --Rehnn83 11:56, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

Re: Man of Steel Award
OK, cheers for that - it still needs references but it now looks like a viable and reasonably accurate article, so I've removed some of the cleanup notices. In future, it may be worth using the inuse template at the top of articles still undergoing work - other editors seeing that will cut them a bit more slack and wait for them to be fleshed out. Hope that helps. Thanks. Qwghlm 00:19, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Graham Skelton, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article seems to be about a person, group of people, band, club, company, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable, that is, why an article about that subject should be included in Wikipedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert notability may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, and if you can indicate why the subject of this article is notable, you may contest the tagging. To do this, add  on the top of the page (below the existing db tag) and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.

For guidelines on specific types of articles, you may want to check out our criteria for biographies, for web sites, for bands, or for companies. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Betaeleven 17:32, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:JamieSaintLyon.JPG
An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:JamieSaintLyon.JPG, has been listed at Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page for more information if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Fritz S. (Talk) 14:52, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The current problem is that the license tag says you created the image, whereas the summary says you didn't. If the copyright holder agreed to license the image under the GNU Free Documentation License and the Creative Commons Attribution ShareAlike as the article says, the current self tag should be replaced with GFDL and cc-by-sa-2.5,2.0,1.0. You should also check out Requesting_copyright_permission, which explains how you can verify that permission has been given. Let me know if you have any other questions. --Fritz S. (Talk) 11:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
 * There's nothing wrong with the image now. The watermark tag does not mean the image will have to be deleted, it just points out that the image is watermarked. --Fritz S. (Talk) 13:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Robbie Fowler
Maybe so, but someone's real name is by definition not a nickname. Oldelpaso 18:26, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Super League Dream Team
Ok then, my problems with the article: But, if you want to, I can restore it for you to work on it. Thank you for your appreciation. NCurse work 16:47, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * it only exists on BBC
 * does it have an official site?
 * If you read the article, you can't find out that it's about rugby. It's not evident for others.


 * Done: Super League Dream Team; thank you for the clean-up. NCurse work 18:41, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

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http://www.europeancuphistory.com/heysel
My reasoning against the inclusion of this link on the Heysel Stadium disaster article is as follows: Hope this clears it up for you. I suggest you have a read through the already linked 20 odd articles and pages. Cheers, aLii 14:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It is a badly written site that doesn't work with the Firefox browser. (I have read it in IE)
 * It offers no information not already linked to from the article
 * It is an unprofessional fansite, whereas the same information is linked from major news outlets. Being a fansite it is answerable to no-one, and as such can't really be considered a reliable source.


 * You just stating something to be true doesn't hold any water on Wikipedia though. Wikipedia is about verifiability, not truth. You should read WP:ATT. aLii 20:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Graeme Horne, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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