User talk:Londo06/Archive 8

I obviously wasn't part of the original debate and may not be completely up on the scope of this issue within the RL Wikiproject, but the policy concerns override any findings made by small groups of editors. As an admin I'm pretty thick skinned and don't really notice the personal attacks any more, but I'd advise you to:
 * be certain before accusing any editor of meddling, vandalism or being malicious
 * be communicative and give clear rationales as to why your edits are appropriate when challenged on policy, rather than revert and restore disputed content, either without comment or with pointed edit summaries
 * accept that it is not the job of an encyclopedia to report the possible future starting lineup of a sports team. Even if the BBC reports a possible line-up, that does not make it OK for inclusion in WP - BBC is a news service, WP is an encyclopedia.

 Dei z  talk 15:31, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Rugby Infoboxes
If the form of the template is changing, will the syntax inside the template? The problem is that for players such as Jason Robinson and Andy Farrell, it is not possible to represent both of their careers with the RL template. That is why i was changing them, to give continuity rather than odd templates throughout the team. Also I am using the RU template for the Bristol players im working on. Eddj 18:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

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2007 signings
these Signings are pure speculation nothing has been made official. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.11.215 (talk) 15:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Paul Sykes
Please post a link for the 150,000 Fee, Harlequins RL is not acceptable? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.11.215 (talk) 16:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Can you post a link where Quins stated they received the fee? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.11.215 (talk) 16:46, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

So why wasnt it on the Quins Web site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.113.11.215 (talk) 16:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Got this email from Sarah Butler

As Paul was still under contract with Harlequins RL at the time of his signing to Bradford, the club did recieve a fee as is normal practice. Unfortunately, we are unable to disclose what this fee is. Best wishes, Sarah Butler, Harlequins RL, Press and PR 0208 410 6081 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.227.174 (talk) 13:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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Dave Hull (rugby league)
Can you please explain this revert and why you consider the version you reverted to "the good version"? The information I removed was unsourced opinion material. Some of it may be appropriate in edited form with sources, but as it stood it was not really appropriate.
 * Hull is a giant full-back

Does he have pituitary gigantism? Even if he's significantly larger than average height, that's not noteworthy for a footballer unless it's extraordinary in some way and a topic sourceable discussion.
 * who has been compared to GB international Paul Wellens

By whom? Unless there is significant third-party discussion on this which can be reliably sourced, this is pure opinion and thus tantamount to OR.
 * with good kick returns

According to whose standards? If he is noted among analysts or commentators as particularly skilled in this area, or if he has particularly noteworthy statistics in this area, surely this can be sourced. If not, again, it's opinion.
 * and few getting past him in the defensive line.

Again, by what standards? Does he hold some record, or has he reached some milestone, in this area? Without something sourceable, this is another subjective opinion of the Wikipedian who added it.

It seemed to me that the removal of this sentence was pretty uncontroversial. I urge you to reconsider the reasons you reverted this. Cheers. - Che Nuevara 11:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll forgive your unfamiliarity with the English language. He does not have gigantism. Dave Hull has been compared to GB international Paul Wellens. Will source his good kick returns. Few getting past him in the defensive line is indicated by the few tries conceeded, but once again that will be sourced. Londo06 12:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * And I'll forgive your patronizing me -- I am in fact a native speaker of English (like it says on my user page), and even if I weren't, that would not be yours to "forgive". The point of my comment on gigantism was that saying he "is a giant full-back" is not really a legitimate assessment unless he does have it. And again, comparison to Wellens is not in itself noteworthy, and must be shown to be from reliable sources. - Che Nuevara 12:14, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I'll allow you latitude due to your unfamiliarity with the subject matter at hand. Being compared to Paul Wellens, one of the worlds best rugby players of either code, is indeed high praise from both his peers and writers. I shall source this in time. The use of the term giant in front of his position indicates that he is indeed a large player. This is common throughout the English language as means to explain what features he exhibits. Londo06 12:57, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Your condescending attitude is becoming tiresome. I'm WP:3Oing this. - Che Nuevara 13:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)