User talk:Longhair/Archive17

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Lack of knowledge
Is not sufficient for a delete note - I am about to pick it up again -(WA Portal) - who knows I might be coming to you for help advice re coding some template issues! cheers SatuSuro 05:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * OK so I can be impudent here without getting blocked - :) Thanks for your support - will try to keep it in order - and thanks for letting me get away with such a comment SatuSuro 08:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Notable Australian mass murders
I changed the reference to a link because there were no other references on that page. They all linked to other bigger pages. Reference lists are easy to create in a number of different formats. Ozdaren 14:27, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * PS. You did use one of the better ones. Ozdaren 14:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Bali Nine article
I have been editing the Bali Nine article recently, and noticed the image (that claims to be police evidence) used in the article of Martin Stephens showing him with heroin strapped around his chest. However, since you uploaded the image, do you know the article related to the image? I have searched news.com.au and can't find the image. Would you be able to help me find it? The image can't be included and labelled as "police evidence" unless there is a reliable source that says the image was police evidence. Kind regards,  Sebi  [talk] 09:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for trying, I'll see what I can track down in the morning.  Sebi  [talk] 10:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) It's not far from FA, actually, but some sourcing of certain areas needs to be done before it does reach it.  Sebi  [talk] 07:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Eeek! I'll see what I can dig up in a moment, I'm currently tracking down some obvious sources for the sentences that were unreferenced in the lead sections. If you want something to do, try and find some easy sources for some of the data in the "Summary of sentences" table.  Sebi  [talk] 07:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Gregory David Roberts
Hi Longhair ! There has been many problems over the last few months with this article. Persons have been placing defamatory information on the page, with then either Roberts or someone claiming to represent him, making further alterations and adding promotional material, which then led to a war of words between these parties. I tried to improve the article a few times as best as i could by using some referenced sources, but most information was mainly from unreferenced sources. Another Editor has now removed everything and reverted the article to a one line stub and semi-protected the page. Not sure how the article can be improved upon now, but have left details also with User talk:Orderinchaos. Maybe Admins can decide on what is best for this article's progression, specially since a movie is being based on the book later this year. Boylo 00:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

1956 Murray River flood
No problem, I'll add a bit more info, I just created it with a stub template for now. I'm always wanting to improve the depth of Australian topics! --Borgardetalk 08:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice work. I saw the info you added as well, thanks. --Borgardetalk 08:43, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Rating
Hi, would you be able to have a look at Speers Point, New South Wales? While clearly at least Start, I'm not independent enough of the article to decide whether it warrants a B. Orderinchaos 06:28, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks :) Yeah, just wanted an independent view to see how it was going. Orderinchaos 15:13, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Hobart
The arts are there nobody has bothered to think about it - thanks for the cat cleanups you have been doing - its a relief to see some pop tags have been removed in places - thanks and cheers SatuSuro 00:24, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * When I see you doing the culture cats it make me think of the 2nd ww quotation when i hear the word culture, I reach for my gun !! must check who actually said that SatuSuro 05:15, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Viz attracts anytime SatuSuro 05:18, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Excellent - thank you very much for that, it is appreciated! - Im off to the perth excuse of s state library - have a good rest of friday SatuSuro 05:22, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Challenge
I think i will have a deadly silence from the eds who inhabit the hobart/tas project for the challenge that I gave them - so your challenge re the wa looks a worthy one - and to the benefit of all :) so yup - if not tonight - over the weekend! or a bit longer :|  SatuSuro 13:09, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I am staying out of that one this time - its a case of where I will not say on wiki what i think of the issue SatuSuro 13:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC) I wont gmail you this time - but one day - I promise you will get a big long one over the issue - I'll save it :)  SatuSuro 13:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)  I gotta get the teenager - otherwise the gmail would have been now - its like being an employee of the aec at election times - cheers -SatuSuro 13:41, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Have had pressure to comment at the afd issue - ummm.. As for giving comment - will do in a sec SatuSuro 02:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It would be like a charismatic renewal scream in in the mid west during the filming of the second borat (assuming he has unfinished business there) ride across america i suspect - the cacophony and caterwauling of the voices would be enough to be registered similar to the sound waves from krakatoa - probably further. may the benign deity that hovers over eiher jimbo or the project without fear favour or comprehension - or all the crazy science 'kill the pseuds' gangs that prowl around wikipedia trying to kill things they cannot comprehend (they would probably increase the whole thing by 154db and the U2 record for noise in belguim in the early 80s would be broken in a nanosecond by such a phenomenon )- may there never be voice activited wikipedia for the planets sanity. ahem. SatuSuro 03:05, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah the young ones - i have very vivid memory of where i used to watch that (student digs in shenton park) and the talking items in the fridge - even though its so long ago :) SatuSuro 03:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I mean can you imagine starting a project 'In defence of the irrational and problematic issues that science cannot explain' here? there are specifically about 100+ editors and at least 5 separate projects and task forces set up to either hound you out, or jump down your throat or make life very difficult. Nah leave me to the gastrolobiums anytime - good old sodium flouroacetate is not fringe theory at least :( SatuSuro 03:15, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Gormie
Eventually I will have a few photos - what a windswept godfrsaken ole place it is - (Gormanston) - will eventually have some proper cite bits too - it presses buttons when i see that on the watch list - dont let me start :) SatuSuro 11:03, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Dont let me start on that one either - I do trust you are able to recover/insured - whatever - when we were on the coast (warnbro sound edge)- unanchored sheds used to be regularly found up to half a km away from their place of origin - sigh. Gormasnton 'gap' ie before descending to queenstown - caravans reguarly got wrenched off the back of vehicles. Im off now for a bit . cheers  SatuSuro 11:08, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * naha - that was slow - trouble is too many foci to concentrate properly :( SatuSuro 14:11, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Hope you are still there - I just found that I had the marvellous mistake (ah getting younger every year obviously) of having a category with the word article twice and moved it back to the one word article - and I think I might have lost something along the line. I am going to check a bit before i have to dive out and get the damned teenager again SatuSuro 14:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Yup odd - hope its just the one - just checking - for a bit - thinking i might have lost something but maybe there was only the one art in the cat anyways - but the partying teenager beckons :( SatuSuro 14:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * How embarrassing - yes it was a red link - you must have put the evaluation in and I was confronted by the red link and the articles articles category. oh well im off thanks for putting up with me SatuSuro 14:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

All Australian Team
Why this article was semi-protected until one week after the end of the footy season :-)  Grant  |  Talk  12:22, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The page is unusual in that the vandalism, typically people inserting their own name into the team (hoho) or a favourite player who didn't make it, or wishfully changing players' teams, accelerates rapidly as the season progresses. Grant  |  Talk  01:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Education in Australia
Must pass on my many thanks for setting up the project and its category system, very much appreciated. Apologies for not saying so earlier, havent been on le wiki for a short while. Once again, thank you. Twenty Years 16:23, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Image:Battered mars.jpg
Hi, I added the wronglicense template to the image because on flickr it is tagged as cc-by-nc-nd, which is different from the license present in the image description and is not accepted on Wikimedia projects. Thanks. --Cruccone 20:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

The Daily Grind
You seem to have speedy deleted this page on the grounds that it was created by a banned user while they were banned. This is not the case, it was created last year by a freshly-registered sockpuppet. Kindly allow the AfD process to run its course. Joestella 03:47, 15 September 2007 (UTC)


 * You do see that you erred in your decision, right? It would be a great help if you either reversed it and relisted at AfD, or if you aren't allowed to do that, listed it at Deletion Review explaining that you made a mistake. 124.183.216.189 07:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Donkey Serenade
Can you give me an idea as to what additional references/sources that you believe should be provided for this article? Dan arndt 01:29, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

The Someloves
I was hoping that you could help me as one of the articles I have posted has recently had a copyright voilation notice posted on it and I cannot for the life of me work out how this article is a copyright violation as it doesn't resemble the reference cited 'All Music Guide' at all - the basic facts are the same but thats only becuase they are historical and not in dispute. If there was anythign that even faintly represented a copyright violation of that reference I would be happy to correct it but I honestly can't work it out. I was going to put in some references to the quotes used in the article but find myself unable and the article about to be deleted. Is there some process that I can question the posting of the copyright violation notice?Dan arndt 06:04, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * How do I get the copyvio removed? Dan arndt 06:18, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I added the copyvio examination as I was concerned that the article was to deleted without any review - but still think that an examination is not necessary as it is fairly obvious that no copyvio actually exists Dan arndt 06:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Appreciate all of your (combined) assistance - I just wasn't certain of the 'formal' process as its the first time thats happened to me & didn't want to get myself into any strife. Dan arndt 06:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Copyright licenses
Someone (you?) or something is removing the copyright licenses for several images I've uploaded. When I uploaded the images I clicked the buttons indicating that I created the images and I wanted to use the GNU license. This information is now gone. I added tags for the GNU license and the tags are now gone. I read the help page about copyright licenses and it doesn't explain how to add tags. What do I do?--TDKehoe 15:13, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

One of the images in question is

AU project statistics
Is this of any use to the project, or is something similar already being done? &mdash;Moondyne 07:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, and yes I have been updating it manually. I've been bold and moved it to WikiProject Australia/Statistics. &mdash;Moondyne 14:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Antarctica project
Has a small one of those NA/vs cat issues in the template - any chance of a cleanup so I can revert my devious changes? (thinks - I must learn how to do it myself) SatuSuro 13:11, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Phew!
I thought I was gonna see 200 of the peurile edits on Sukarno before something happened - i thought maybe bits be kind to first time vandals week or something :/ cheers SatuSuro 00:52, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Mercenary (computer game)
Hi Longhair. You recently tagged the external links section of the article on Mercenary (computer game) with. I've tried to integrate some (well, most) of the links into the text via a reference section now. I just wanted to check if this is what you had in mind when you tagged the article? Cheers, --Plumbago 11:30, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Tagging articles
Hi, I have noticed that you have tagged a few articles I created. I have recently created another article called Bankstown Bunker. This article has not been tagged yet and I am not sure if you are allowed to tag and rate you own. Would you like to have a look at the article and tag it for me, as I don't know the appropriate tag for this kind of article. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. 10:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for you help, much appreciated. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. 00:03, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

My AfD
Thanks for deleting the article I put up for afd, here, but you seem to have forgotten to delete the articles bundled with it. -- ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk|Contribs) 03:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot. -- ÐeadΣyeДrrow (Talk|Contribs) 15:43, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

As for
A substantial amount of your editing today the answer could be - west of eucla mate, jus' keep driving - an you'll fine them all SatuSuro 09:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I am sure there is something shakespearian about the pox - yes it is true - thanks for giving the tas project some asseses - at least something is happening :( SatuSuro 09:12, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Advice sought

 * Talk:Leanne Clare RE:

Hi Longhair, Bec, OIC, VS and CJ (Aussie Admins that I know of); wow Jb3 can go on! I think we have a wikilawyer-in-training, although he/she only seems to ever focus on this one issue.

If you're interested I'd like to know your opinion, the section seemed pretty blatant POV to me, the neutrality of the sources themselves could also be questioned. His analysis is flawed but I think it would be counterproductive for me to get into a whole point by point technical argument for pages and pages, I didn't have the page on my watchlist otherwise I would have been on to this long ago. So your third opinion is sought on how much I should engage/disengage on this issue, or if you might like to come in as a non-involved party. Cheers, WikiTownsvillian 12:20, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

jam roll
Hi Longhair, you tagged wilgie mia. I was not aware that inline citation was compulsory. Every line is supported by at least 2 of the general references on the subject, usually more. The only remarkable claim is mentioned in every source I accessed, the inline style would seem pointless. Regards, Cygnis insignis 13:01, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Australia project category count
Hi, sorry for my late reply. Do you want me to keep User:Longhair/AUWPtable up-to-date? --Erwin85 14:36, 24 September 2007 (UTC)


 * I've updated the page for my bot to be able to see for what categories it should count the containing pages. An explanation of the syntax can be found at User talk:Longhair/AUWPtable. How often do you want me to update the page? I'm thinking something like once or twice a day. At the moment the replication lag is more than 2 days. It could be useful to know that, so do you want me to put the current time and replag on the page everytime my bot updates it?
 * BTW, I suggest you check the list of namespaces to be counted for each category. I simply checked the category to see what kind of pages it contains, but I assume I made some errors. --Erwin85 16:13, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppet reporting
How does one report a sockpuppet? User:AussieJr has turned up again in the form of User:Muitint78. The editing habits are nearly identical (with plenty of edits on Chris Alajajian) and there is a link to his external webpage that bears the name of User:Peter Franklin Jr, one of Aussie Jrs socks. I went to Suspected sock puppets and editing seems to be limited to admins. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 23:27, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * No I haven't seen that one, although it fits a history of creating sockpuppets. I have been watching Muitint78 for a while.  He appeared soon after the sockpuppet notices were placed on User:Peter Franklin Jr, User:Pirtek and User:Caltex Racing.  Most editing revolves around motor racing with a focus on Chris Alajajian.  I am not sure if you recall but I spoke to you earlier on a related matter here.  I hope this helps. Cheers, Mattinbgn\talk 23:54, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The biggest clue is the link on User:Muitint78 user page pointing to this website. -- Mattinbgn\talk 23:57, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I will try and get them together for you. I have also left a message at User talk:Riana about her unblock of AussieJr.  She may be able to help. -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:15, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I was hoping you would remember! Thanks for your help. -- Mattinbgn\talk 02:05, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Gothic punk as a genre/style
Hello. I'd like to address the removal of the information of the "gothic punk" style of music. Currently, it has enough support by critics, etc in order for it to take place as a style of music. I agree with you on the basis that some of the information on the page was more or less independent of the actual origins of the style, but before entire content is deleted, please consider the grounds that you've taken on it as "nonsense". Thanks.

Jotsko 02:52, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

N64 Gamer
I have just discovered that the article on 'N64 Gamer' has been deleted. The reason for this was based on the premises that firstly it was not a reputable magazine and secondly that the article itself consisted of original research. Being one of the writers for that article, I have a number of concerns with this action, resulting from what I see as faulty and inconsistent justifications, especially regarding the former, which was the primary reason for deletion.

Regardless of international status or even in terms of domesticated mainstream media/press, this magazine was popular amongst Nintendo 64 owners and had quite an extensive readership. If the mere fact that a magazine is not received beyond its target audience deems it immaterial and unworthy of an article entry, then there is quite of lot of deleting you must do. For example, why not delete the article on "Nintendo Magazine System" (NMS), N64 Gamer's rival? Be consistent. Furthermore, even outside of the magazine realm, why not start cracking down on forgotten ex-television personalities, such as those from Big Brother and Australian Idol? They seem to me to be immaterial and unworthy. They did reach their target audiences like I am suggesting N64 Gamer did, but importantly, they were instantly disposable whereas Gamer was not. So really, in this regard, it has more reason to be included than a 7th place 2005 Australian Idol runner up like James Kannis. And I am sure that Gamer is on the mind of its previous audience whereas I absolutely doubt the likes of the aforementioned D-grade celebrity receive the same embrace.

It is true that the article consisted of original research. I can admit to as much as I dug up the material myself. However, there really is not a great deal of internet based resources that can be used to construct an article from. Maybe this is enough to justify the magazine being irrelevant and unpopular. But if you are to propose that, then you fall again to inconsistency. NMS does just the same thing, but maintains its entry. And as I highlighted, this would involve a tremendous amount of article deletions/revisions, amongst a huge range of topics/genres.

Also, the link to the forum article was blocked. This contained first-hand, or 'primary' sources from the staff themselves. That to me is absolutely negligent and prevents the actual possibility to reference sources. So by doing so, the article is unfairly being withheld from repairing itself to the standards you require.

It seems wrong to me to erase from existence something that was a significant aspect of Australia's N64 era. Even if the article is to be reduced significantly, I do believe it deserves to be on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.102.217 (talk) 06:38, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

William MacDonald (serial killer)
Hi I noticed that you rated the article mentioned above as start class and stub class. I have add quite a lot of new information to this article and provided one reference, a book that covers every thing in the article, I also turned the external links that where there into refs as they confirm the article as well. Even though I got the information from a book, it's entirely in my own words. I would rate the article but I think that might be a conflict of interest if I add most of the content myself. The article might need a cleanup concerning grammar. Would you be so kind as to have a quick look at the article to see if it needs to be re-rated. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. 08:32, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for that, I still plan on adding bits and pieces to the article and there is still more towards the end that needs to be expanding, especially the part about his capture court case and sentencing. Many thanks. Cheers_Ad@m.J.W.C. 01:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Bruce lee 01.gif)
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Copyright violations
Would you please look through your older contributions for copyright violations; like this one copied from here and fix them.-- Birgitte  SB  22:11, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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Goodna Shopping Centre
Longhair,

Appreciate your constructive words back on the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodna%2C_Queensland article. Have also just approached Shiftchange but also appreciate your input.

Currently am having an uphill battle with some of the US Wikipedians wanting to delete the Goodna Shopping Centre article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Goodna_Shopping_Centre ) as they have placed it http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Shopping_Centers after it was placed in the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Australia category.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodna_Shopping_Centre

As it is a very important link to the Goodna http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodna%2C_Queensland article would appreciate your constructive input on this discussion and/or advise what needs to be done to article to ensure it stays.

Thanks in advance!

Goodstone 10:11, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

Requested advice on sockpuppetry
Hi - You're the only Australian admin I can find who's around at the moment. Can I ask your advice - I want to know if a certain user's actions constitute sockpuppetry. This user is a well-known user who has made some POV editing to Sydney public transport articles previously, but more recently has been accused of sockpuppetry - see this user for their sockpuppet. Since then I've notice them appear as another user and today appeared as this user making their controversial edits on Sydney public transport again - it appears that the latter, complete with appropriate name, is purely for the purpose of editing public transport articles and, if there is to be a repeat of last time, will be pushing their own POV agenda to others' detriment. I'm assuming good faith right now and not going to report this as sockpuppetry unless I have someone else's advice, but from the previous actions of this user, I have a feeling it might be. If you are able to help, I'd appreciate some advice. Thanks. JRG 10:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Wow. I knew coming back to this would be a mistake. I would ask that you demand JRG show one edit - one single edit - I have made that is POV (as alleged) or vandalism (as alleged)? This sort of bullying is reprehensible. If you people want me off Wikipedia for good, just come out and say so. TransitPolice 15:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)


 * If it is true, and if you are the user concerned. You shouldn't be editing, as it says on the userpage of the user concerned that the user is banned indefinitely from editing, that includes second accounts and socks. --Arnzy (talk · contribs) 06:40, 2 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. You should talk to Orderinchaos (either on or off Wikipedia) who has also been dealing with this. JRG 06:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
 * All I know is what's been publicly posted. That much, however, leaves absolutely nothing to the imagination. Orderinchaos 15:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Why
I had a page on here about my group! And you deleted it. Look just because something is not famous or well known, doesn't mean that it is worthless! I am also unhappy about the N64 Gamer page, Wikkipedia is the encyclopedia for those people who want something different from the ordinary encyclopedia! I come here for everything small, oh and you have a page on Real Ultimate Power! Of all the stuff I've seen on here that page has not reason to be on here. If your going to have real ultimate power then I think my page should still be on here. In fact I'm going to put a new version on here right now! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Togocurian (talk • contribs) 18:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Page Request
Can you please help me? The Albert Einstein page is locked for editing and I feel that an important quote that Einstein had should be included on the page. It is "We cannot fix our problems with the same thinking we used when we created them". Thank you for your help Dustihowe 16:48, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Gundagai, New South Wales protection level
Just a heads up, you semi-protected this page back on April 8 of this year. No vandalism has since occurred from the sockpuppeteer involved, so it'd probably be safe to remove the protection. Regards, AllynJ (talk | contribs) 15:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank You for your input Dustihowe 16:08, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Oberon High School
Hi, you reverted my removal of something on the OHS page. Why? You say I am "ruining others work". If you check your records, you'll see that I wrote the damn section!! I was changing it, because, on talkig to Ms. Martella about it, she was in Melbourne that day, 100km from Mr Rudd's visit. So can you please let me make this acurate, instead of just assuming that I am "vandalising" everything?! Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlightOfStairs (talk • contribs)


 * Thank you for your message. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FlightOfStairs (talk • contribs)

Hmmm
Not sure what I learnt from all of that :( (I can tell you watching watch list zap up and down like that all night was a bit theatric in itself) SatuSuro 01:29, 8 October 2007 (UTC)