User talk:Looper5920/Archive 10

Archive #10 of Looper5920's talk page - from May 2008 to October 2008.

Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Thanks for adding the great pics to this article. You really improved it tremendously...BZ! FieldMarine (talk) 23:25, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The one in the infobox is mine but the gallery pics I moved over from the MCAS Miramar article.  There is a lot of room for expansion on the article.  A note on the existing facilities and building of new museum is probably in order.  Eventually I'd like to get to it.  Next time I am at the museum (August maybe) I'll do a bit more research.  Cheers--Looper5920 (talk) 23:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar
Thank you, good sir. I'm glad to see that you're finding time to come and make some edits of your own. Hope all stays well. ''' bahamut0013 ♠  ♣  00:23, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

New article
I'd like you to take a look at Marine Corps Security Force Battalion‎ if you can. I kinda ran thin on references, and I'd hate to see it stay a stub. ''' bahamut0013 ♠  ♣  23:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Possibly merge with Marine Corps Security Guard?--Looper5920 (talk) 23:50, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I didn't think they were part of the same chain of command. Considering MSG's affiliation with the Dept of State and the MSF's affiliation with the Navy, they probably couldn't comfortably share an article. ''' bahamut0013 ♠  ♣  23:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

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Web site
I found a website you might be interested in, given your affection for the Phantom. ''' bahamut0013 ♠  ♣  16:37, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

1st battalion 5th marines logo
What does the indian head on the logo mean???

Romero24.249.34.171 (talk) 02:42, 17 June 2008 (UTC)


 * It is taken from the 2nd Infantry Division's logo. 5th Marines served as part of the 4th Marine Brigade under the 2nd Infantry Division in World War I as part of the American Expeditionary Force.  They adopted the division's Indianhead logo into their own.--Looper5920 (talk) 02:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Tanker controversy
Thanks for the help with the article. Cla68 (talk) 00:04, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries at all. I'll add what I can when I get a chance.--Looper5920 (talk) 11:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: Distribution Liaison Company
Noted. I added a merge tag. Feel free to make a note on the talk page. At the end of the weekend, if you haven't made a merge and redirect, I'll do it &mdash; unless there is discussion to the contrary. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 03:33, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the help. Hope all is well--Looper5920 (talk) 11:41, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

USAF
Hi, do you know what is the total number of fighter aircraft of USAF?  Otolemur crassicaudatus  (talk) 21:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Joseph R. Chenelly
I declined the speedy deletion request on Joseph R. Chenelly. If you believe this article should be deleted, consider taking it to WP:AfD.

Cheers - Revolving Bugbear  18:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

I am working to make this article in complete compliance with Wiki's style and guidelines. Thank you, KendallCC (talk) 20:30, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

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Moving mess
As ignored the various warnings regarding consensus-less page moves, I blocked him/her for 12 hours. In the meantime, we now have an enormous mess on our hands, with nearly one hundred page moves performed over the past 24 hours. Arg! --Kralizec! (talk) 18:36, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I can correct the bad page moves if you can fix the edits to the pages themselves. --Kralizec! (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Using my admin tools I can undo the page moves with just a couple of clicks (or five clicks if you or someone else put in a redirect already), however I have no clue about the content this editor changed in some of the pages. --Kralizec! (talk) 18:47, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * There, I think that is all of them. Please let me know if I missed any, or if some still are not correct; some of the page histories were kinda of convoluted, so I might not have moved them to the correct locations.  Thanks for all of your help!! --Kralizec! (talk) 19:48, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Needs a POV change
Have you seen United States Marine Corps Forces Special Operations Command? The shooting controversy section is insanely bloated, I think there are some anti-military folks pushing an agenda. I was hoping you could take a look at it and see what you think. ''' bahamut0013 ♠  ♣  22:08, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Air Naval Gunfire Liaison Company has some wonky text in it too. I know cleaning up that kind of crud is one of your talents. ''' bahamut0013 ♠  ♣  17:36, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. I'll give it a go in a few hours.--Looper5920 (talk) 17:55, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

VMFA-134
I understand your reason for pulling LtCol Nelson from the story. (so far as I know, this man who I never knew, was just another officer doing his job) I don't understand pulling the A-4 ref. As a reader, I would like to know what planes were flown and when. In my memory they flew the A-4E and A-4M, and were just getting Hornets, as I retired, but I expect they flew other models as well. I was an east coast Marine, so my contact with 134 was limited. You are a better writer, and wikipedian than I am, so I will defer to your judgement. I will not re ad the info, but I hope that you do. I would also appreciate any thing that you could ad to Robert K. Hall of 3/164 "Marines" Semper fiJtmilesmmr (talk) 17:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

VA-12
Making the assumption that you have administrator priviledges, I was hoping to solicit your assistance to sort out some naming discrepancies. There are several US Navy squadrons (see Category:United States Navy squadrons) which are mis-named, and done so in an incinsistent manner, because they conflict with the abbreviated name of a road in Virginia. VA-12, an article which you originally created, is one such example. In my opinion there should be a "VA-12 (disambiguation)" page (which I would be happy to create) to cover these conflicts, but the Wikipedia title "VA-12" and the others in the Navy squadrons category should go to the Navy squadron because these are their actual names that everyone knows them by, not abbreviations. If you will change them I will be happy to do the leg work of sorting out the redundant Wikilinks, double-redirects, creation of the disambiguation pages, and referencing the disambiguation pages at the top of all affected articles. Respectfully submitted, Pen of bushido (talk) 17:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I am not an administrator. ANother approache may be to move VA-12 to Attack Squadron 12 (United States Navy). Let me know where I can help.--Looper5920 (talk) 17:50, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

VA-210 (and others?) also redirects to a Virginia highway. I've been trying to figure out how to fix it......I'm getting there. Todd Jtmilesmmr (talk) 18:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

MWSS-274
Did you create the Wikipedia entry for MWSS-274? I've been with this unit for 6 years and can add alot to the history. We need to add Operation Mountain Strom as part of Operation Enduring Freedom to the engagements list.

Msgt Rob —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.162.128.52 (talk) 19:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

New article
FYI, I just started the Francis P. Mulcahy article. He's one of the commanders in the Operation Ke article that I'm currently working on. Cheers! Cla68 (talk) 06:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

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United States Marine Corps Aviation
I think that the article may be ready to be nominated for Good article. I'm off work until Tuesday night, so I can pound away at any needed fixes. However, you've made considerably more meat to the article than I, so I wanted to see if you would be avaiable for the review process as well. Do you have any thoughts?  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   17:28, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
 * While the article is good I still think there is some information that needs to be added. Just of the top of my head their needs to be an inclusion of the six functions of Marine aviation, some info on the MACCS and maybe a paragraph about the future of Marine aviation to include future aircraft, tactical air integration plan etc...just my thoughts though.  I am not really in a position to monitor and make changes and will not be for a few more weeks.--Looper5920 (talk) 20:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, I will wait. I think I will take a crack at the "Future" section. I'll have to take a look at the aviation plan again... but reading those kinds of reports drive me slightly nuts!
 * On another note: changing all of those unit logos... wouldn't it be simpler to overwrite the old images? Just a suggestion.  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   23:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I've got a 96 coming up for Columbus Day... would this be a good time for you to take a swing at this?  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   15:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Order of Battle diagrams
Hey, I noticed that you found discrepancies with Noclador's USMC organizational diagrams. I've been conversing with him for a little while about making some fixes, your input would be appreciated. You always seem to find out about unit activations, deactivations, and reassignments before I do, and he is willing to update these graphics frquently (and coordination will help me fix the MSC navboxes in a timely manner). Cheers!  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   18:55, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Greater Sandy Run / Camp Davis
I'm a bit confused by Camp Davis... I'd thought when I'd edited it a few minutes ago that it was surely a satellite facility of MCAS New River because it had functional runways, and was formerly an Army and Navy aviation facility. But the few references I've found since then (,, , & ) mention that Lejeune acquired it in 1992 and is renovating certain portions of it... Unless some of that info is wrong, the only explanation I can think of is that it used to be an aviation facility when the Corps acquired it in the 50s, then New River turned it over to Lejeune in 92, no longer to be used for aviation. Can you clear this up for me?  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   23:18, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

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1st Armored Division SSI image
Hiya! I believe the should say "OLD IRONSIDES", which is the nickname of the First Armored Division. "READY FIRST" is the nickname of the 1st Brigade Combat Team, which is a unit of the division.

Ligart (talk) 22:58, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

MWSS 372
I just wanted to drop in and say thanks for working so hard on all these unit pages. You're doing an amazng job.

The only thing I want to comment on is MWSS 372's page. I'm super new to this Wikipedia thing, so I'm not sure exactly how to edit it myself.

The unit has a new CO, LtCol Matthew Puglisi, as of June I believe. The changeover happened just before a friend of our separated from the military, and he left in late June.

Aand the unit patch isn't exactly correct. MWSS 372 are the diamondbacks, their patch is red with a rattlesnake, the engineer insignia, and the motor-t insignia on it. It's all at the unit website, http://www.3maw.usmc.mil/mwsg37/mwss372/default.asp

And I'm not even sure that's still the seal they use. My husband is in 372, they all just got back from a deployment in February. He brought back a coin and a yearbook-kinda thing that both have a new patch with only a snake and a helicopter on it. I can try and get a picture of it up.

So I guess just contact me if you have any questions or comments.

MissesPuff (talk) 16:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up...the changes have been made. Cheers--Looper5920 (talk) 20:26, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

MCAS
Thanks for all your work in trying to preserve this article. You might try writing the user. I just put what is supposedly the first note on his discussion page. Maybe he's been signing in under other IPs. Perhaps we can get up a case to have the page semi-protected for awhile. Student7 (talk) 21:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Logistics Combat Element
Why did you revert the 1st Medical Battalion back to JPG format when it was in SVG?

It took me a long time to vectorise that image. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WillT.Net (talk • contribs) 00:38, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Because it was a bad reproduction with some big errors.--Looper5920 (talk) 01:11, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

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Hoover's Hunters
Hello. While the Marines of Hoover's Hunters served their country with distinction, I agree in general, notable information about individual companies should be in the battalion articles. The article was not an obvious speedy as you noted. I believe that WP:PROD was that most reasonable approach to take. I left a note on the creator's page &mdash; I think it appropriate to engage in a conversation on the talk page, as suggested in the note, if the creator has questions or objects. If there are points for discussion, I hope you will take the opportunity to join in. Your viewpoint is quite credible, as you have created so many of the articles on Marine Corps units. &mdash; ERcheck (talk) 01:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

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Oakland Naval Base
I noticed that you reverted the name of this base to the air station. However, the author of the book I cited says that the marine convoy left from the naval base, as would be the logical place for the ships to depart from, and many other sources confirm the base was in operation at least until 1960. So, was just curious why you made the change. Cheers--mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 12:23, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The intent of my changing the name is to use the actual name of the base at the time; not to deny its existence. It is actually the Oakland International Airport today.  The absolute expert in all things military post related in World War II is M.L. Shettle.  He has written a myriad of books and luckily his information on California posts is on-line.... check out NAS Oakland. In 1942 the facility in question was officially named Naval Reserve Air Base Oakland.  Just because it was an Air Base does not mean that ships could not dock there and transport troops from there.  The facility is right on the water and is ideally suited for it.  I would guess the author of the book just simplified the title to Oakland Naval Base.  I have read hundreds of military books and I constantly see incorrect titles like this.  Authors do not do in depth research and just surmise some things.  If anything, if it was a Naval Base it would actually be Naval Base Oakland since that is how the U.S. Navy names it's bases.  A good example of a similiar facility today would be Naval Air Station North Island.  While it is primarily an Air Station many ships dock there for a myriad of purposes.  The reason I also remove the city of San Francisco is that the Air Base was not in San Francisco but rather Oakland.  Two different cities but it seems the author mentioned San Francisco for readers who may not be familiar with other parts of the Bay Area.  Hopefully this explains why I made the changes I did.--Looper5920 (talk) 12:38, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No need to check because I have encountered similar issues elsewhere, but was just wondering. I did in fact wonder why the base was in Oakland but the departure was from SF and decided it may have had to do something with the military zoning. Sorry if you are doing too much cleanup, but I'm a bit tired but wanted to get that bit of editing in as I found it interesting. I had read about the fighting on Guadalcanal of course, but never knew what transpired beforehand. Cheers--mrg3105 (comms) ♠ ♥ ♦ ♣ 12:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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Aviation unit naming conventions
I was thinking about expanding United States Marine Corps aviation to include a section on the naming conventions for an aviation unit, and then realized it might be better as an article concerning all branches. I know there is already an article about airfract designations, but I was wondering what you thought about unit designations? Would such an article be notable? What kind of good references might you have in your treasure trove?  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   15:15, 8 October 2008 (UTC
 * I can see why there would need to be an explaination as to how VMFA=Marine Fighter Attack Squadron. Sometimes you get so wrapped up in the subject that it is easy to forget that these acronyms are not as easy to decipher for most.  I believe there is merit to creating a Marine Corps article.  My thoughts would be to start off trying to create an article about Marine Corps designations over the years.  If at the end it is determined there is just not enough substance then it would be appropriate to expand it to cover all services.  As for references....I have hundreds to draw from.  A few problems right now is that many are in storage and I am about to take 3 weeks of vacation where I will only be monitoring for vandalism.  If you want to get it rolling then by all means I will add info where I can and add more substantial info when I get back and unpack my library.--Looper5920 (talk) 04:32, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm stuck. I started some work in my sandbox, but then my main reference, the only one directly concerning the naming conventions, turned out to be... well, crap, a farce, completely unreliable. If you could point me to some sort of reference... I could do the rest.  bahamut0013 ♠  ♣   22:45, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Contact question
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 * Yeah I am, as far as I know.--Looper5920 (talk) 04:27, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

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HMH-363
HI I am a SGT in the Flight Line shop in HMH-363. I have been with the squadron since 2004 and we are in iraq again for the Operation Iraqi Freedom 8.2. I have a awesome photo shot of one of the helicopters I would like to add to the page. Well its been a while since I have been on and it says that I am restricted to add for some reason. well I would like your help thanks. Ch53mechwest (talk) 00:25, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

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