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Hello, when you posted the image of Ahmed Abdallah Sambi you listed it as self made but as it is photo of poster it is actually a derivative work, which would be a copy right violation. I beleive that if you list it under fair use it would be ok. The image may or may not get deleted before you have a chance to do this, either way you should be able to just reloaded with correct licensing. Jeepday (talk) 17:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Moving ahead with the deletion, you are welcome to try for the fair use. Jeepday (talk) 04:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

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Heelkakobdhexaad
Hi Middayexpress, You wrote this article. However, the geographical coordinates you give correspond with a stretch of empty desert on Google Maps, on http://www.bing.com/maps and also on http://www.geographic.org (the site that you refer to). Moreover: http://www.geonames.org/ does not know such a place. There is however a village called Kob Dhexaad not far from there, at: 10.656479, 49.498864. Loranchet (talk) 12:59, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Loranchet. The National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency indicates that the area's coordinates are 10° 41' 00" N and 49° 28' 00" E . This is therefore what is indicated on the page. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 13:21, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes. But you can see that at these coordinates there is just empty desert. And on http://www.geographic.org/ the place is named Heelka Kobdhexaad and not Heelkakobdhexaad. Under that name (Heelka Kobdhexaad) I have found this place also on http://www.geonames.org/. Geonames puts geographical features in certain categories, such as river, city, mountain, etc. and it classifies Heelka Kobdhexaad as a "locality", not as a "populated place". A locality is "a minor area or place of unspecified or mixed character and indefinite boundaries". You call it a town (not even village, but town). Why? You see there's neither a town nor a village there! And the website used by you (http://www.geonames.org/) says nothing about the type of place, whether village, or plain, or stream, or so. What makes you think it's a town? Loranchet (talk) 13:59, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Actually, I cited geographic.org (linked above), not geonames.org. "Heelkakobdhexaad" is likewise an alternate name for the area . Additionally, town is a synonym for "locality". Please also leave all responses if any here so that they are in one place. Thanks, Middayexpress (talk) 14:08, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, typo from me. The site you refer to (geographic.org) does list Heelka Kobdhexaad as a "locality" not as a "populated place", see here. Together with the fact that there's nothing there, can I convince you it is not a town? 20:08, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Per here, a "locality" and "populated place" are interchangeable; both also aren't really specific as to size and may include towns, villages, hamlets and cities. In any event, I've changed it to locality. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 22:15, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Middayexpress. But note: "town" and "locality" are NOT interchangeable! A town is a locality but a locality is not a town. A cow is a mammal, but a mammal is not a cow. All for the good of Wikipedia! :-) Loranchet (talk) 22:43, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * That's not what the wikilink above states. Btw, I'm aware whenever you post a new reply here, so no need to alert me either. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 22:54, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Dooxadacambaareed
Hi Middayexpress. Could you please change the article's name into Dooxada Cambaareed? It is not Dooxadacambaareed. The one-word-version is only used by Geographic.org "as a form of the full name that allows for alphabetical sorting of the file into gazetteer sequence" (quote from Geographic.org). Same is for many other Somalia geography stubs. Eg. Heelkakobdhexaad: the correct spelling is Heelka Kobdhexaad. Thanks! Loranchet (talk) 09:35, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Loranchet. Dooxadacambaareed is an alternate name for the area (see top of screen on getamap as well ); same thing for various other Somalia geography stubs such as Heelkakobdhexaad . It's also closer to an anglicized spelling. However, Dooxada Cambaareed may be the commonname. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:53, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Ok, done for both. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 21:25, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Maxamedbuurfuule
Hi Middayexpress, I see that you used Maxamedbuurfuule for an article of a Somali village of which the real name is Maxamed Buurfuule. In countless other Somalia geography articles you have done the same: melting the words together and make it one single word. But would you ever write an article called Losangeles, Puertorico or Rhodeisland? I guess you wouldn't. So please revert ALL your erroneous spellings of Somali towns and villages back to the correct ones. Thank you! Loranchet (talk) 15:14, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I believe getamap's alternate naming scheme was already explained above. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Is something wrong with me? If I type Maxamedbuurfuule in Getamap I am referred to Maxamed Buurfuule. See it here at Getamap; it is always spelled as two words. Loranchet (talk) 19:38, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Look again at the very top of the screen in that link (where it says "Map, Weather and Photos"). That's getamap's alternate naming scheme. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * This is weird. There's no "Map, Weather and Photos"-link on the top of my screen. Maybe the site looks different depending on whether you open it from Europe or from the US or so (this is sometimes the case). However, lower on my page there is a wheather, map and photo section, but they all use the two-word-version of Maxamed Buurfuule. In any case, do you think that the "alternate naming scheme" of one particular website is an enough authoritative source to consider the name to have been changed from Maxamed Buurfuule to Maxamedbuurfuule? I don't think so. Geonames.org knows only 1 single name variant: Maxamed Buurfuule. So does Geographic.org here. Why do I make such a fuss about this? Because Wikipedia is authoritative, and by creating articles with an erroneous name that name gets copied and used in a lot of other websites. It's already happening. As a serious author you should't want that. So please be convinced and change it. Best regards, Loranchet (talk) 21:00, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The alternate name is at the top of the screen. It is indeed weird that you apparently cannot see it since it's in the page source too :) By the way, kindly post any future responses here on your talk page. Thanks, Middayexpress (talk) 21:05, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * OK, it's in the page source: http://www.getamap.net/maps/somalia/hiiraan/_maxamedbuurfuule/ But that is the only place where I see it in one single word. But that's just done to prevent the use of a blank space or %20 in URL-encoding. You know that. That's not enough to consider that to be the correct spelling! Please read my argumentation in my previous comment. I hope for a substantial reply, Middayexpress. Can we look into this seriously? Thanks! Loranchet (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It's in the page source obviously because it's displayed on the page itself. I also politely asked you to post any future responses here (see WP:HUSH). Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 15:47, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * 120223_OCHASom_Administrative_Map_Bari_Qandala_A3.pdf Administrative map of Qandala District]
 * thanks; has been repaired. Loranchet (talk) 19:38, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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 * stories/201312010085.html Somalia: UN Special Representative for Somalia Appeals for Calm in Sool", AllAfrica.com, 30 November 2013; accessed on 3 December 2013.

Bari, Somalia
Hi Middayexpress, On 3 August 2012 you edited this article, adding 2 districts to the Region of Bari: Waiye and Armo (=Carmo), making it a total of 8 districts. I do not think this is correct. The other 6 districts are OK, and when you open these district articles, a map of Bari appears in the infobox with 6 districts, not 8. Could you show a reference for the existence of the 2 extra districts? Thanks! Loranchet (talk) 20:16, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi Loranchet. Waiye/Waciya and Armo/Carmo are official districts of Puntland . Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:27, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Yep, I had seen this. But why do you add Waiye/Waciya and Armo/Carmo but not Ufayn, Bargaal, Rako and Xafun, which are also districts of Puntland within the territory of the (old) region of Bari? Loranchet (talk) 21:36, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Other than Bargaal, the others were re-directs or redlinks. You also indicate that you saw the district listing yet you still wrote above that you didn't think the districts were correct. Interesting. Middayexpress (talk) 22:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * I adapted the article for more clarity. Loranchet (talk) 00:00, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * They were listed in the Districts of Somalia article at one point I think. Feel free to delete the ones you think are dubious.♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:27, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Dr. Blofeld . So if you agree I will request for the deletion of the articles on the following districts, after researching whether they really cannot be proven to exist: Balidhidin District, Bareeda District, Habo District, Hiriro District, Qodah District and Tager District. Loranchet (talk) 22:23, 2 December 2013 (UTC)


 * You are of course free to nominate them for deletion at AFD, but nominating actual places is viewed as obstructionist. You'd better be sure. You'll also see 1 is sourced the other exists on the Somali wikipedia, so if YOU know better than everyone else go right ahead. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 19:24, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Ahmedgab
Hi Middayexpress. I value much of you work on Somalia. But here, I see that you have again created an article on a Somali town that is not a town at all, but (in this case) a river (wadi). I have now seen many examples of geographical entries created by you that are totally erroneous. Even in the very first version you added a source that clearly states: "Axmed Gaab (Axmed Gaab) is a wadi (class H - Hydrographic) in (Togdheer)." So you knew from the start it's not a town. Then you edited the article dozens of times but you never corrected this. Why are you doing this? Please correct the article (and use the right spelling: Axmed Gaab) or delete it. (It is such a small stream that in my view it does not deserve a separate article, because no extra information will ever be added for this wadi). Please reply here. Best regards, Loranchet (talk) 23:04, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I've seen you mark many localities and populated places as anything other than that, so it would appear human error works both ways. At any rate, you may be in part right here, as Ahmed Gab (anglicized spelling) is apparently a wadi . I've fixed it. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 23:19, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Human error; it happens. Thanks for correcting! But two remarks: firstly: I politely requested you to answer here. Secondly: Contrary as you say, I don't think I've marked "many localities and populated places as anything other than". Rather on the contrary, I'm correcting many of such errors by others. Give me examples where I went wrong, and I'll gladly admit -and correct- it. Please continue discussion here. Loranchet (talk) 11:33, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * With respect, the discussion makes more sense here for context. If it bothers you, though, feel free to delete it as is your prerogative. As an example of such human error, there's G.W.B Huntingford's "The Town of Amud, Somalia" (a proper name), which for some reason you changed to "The ruined town of Amud, Somalia" . Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:44, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
 * With a equal amount of respect: As the discussion started here, on an article created by you, it makes to more sense to have the debate here. Anyway, as regards Amud, we are both right. The article by Huntingford is indeed called "The Town of Amud", but its first sentence reads: "The ruined town of Amud is built on .. (etc)". I have corrected it as promised. Regards, Loranchet (talk) 16:24, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, I did politely ask you earlier to "post any future responses here (see WP:HUSH)". At any rate, the "ruined town of Amud" is just a fragment of the first sentence; it is certainly not the title of Huntingford's article "The Town of Amud, Somalia". Glad that was cleared up, though. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:09, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Middayexpress. If I start a discussion on your talk page, you always refer the discussion back to my page, saying you wish to continue the discussion there. If I don't comply, you adorn me with a WP/HUSH-tag, reminding me of your wish. But when in our most recent discussion I requested you to have a discussion on your page, you simply ignored my request and when I remember you of MY wish you just give me a WP/HUSH. Why should I honour your requests when you just ignore mine? Please explain for the sake of a better understanding between us. Loranchet (talk) 17:27, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * It was already explained above, in detail and several times, what the naming conventions are. I'm not going to repeat myself elsewhere and out context when all of the info is already here. I've also already pointed you to WP:HUSH. Kindly respect it. Any future posts on this matter that aren't made here but instead on my talk page out of their global context will be deleted. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Afariridookiibuurqumayo
Hi Middayexpress, Afariridookiibuurqumayo (article created by you and revised >30 times) is not a populated place. The spelling is incorrect. Please correct both. Thank you! Loranchet (talk) 20:15, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Per getamap, Afariridookiibuurqumayo/Afar Iridookii Buur Qumayo is indeed a locality . Kindly do not waste my time again. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 20:32, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Waste your time again? You wasted 33 edits on this article never correcting its main error, namely that it is not a populated place at all. So please consider a 34th and final correction. Thanks! Loranchet (talk) 20:52, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
 * A locality is a populated place. So yes, time wasted indeed. Middayexpress (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Alollammagad
hi Middayexpress. You created this article and say this place is in Mudug, but you joined a map placing it in Bay Region, which is 700 km further south. Also the correct spelling is Alol Lamma Gad, which you did use in earlier versions of the article. Please correct it. Thanks! Loranchet (talk) 16:30, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
 * The coordinates and region are from the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency . Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Re:Geographical Feature classification and Feature Designation Codes
Hi Loranchet. "Locality" is often a synonym for "populated place". But your point is taken. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:04, 21 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * BTW, I see you tangled with Middayexpress over these Somali placenames. I and a couple of other people are going through them to weed out all the localities and other problem names, so if you're interested you might want to cast an eye at AfD for a while. Mangoe (talk) 00:48, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

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how your edit reflects the sources. Because I don't see how it does. Don't bother doing it here, I didn't revert you and others need to see your explanation. Doug Weller talk 15:01, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi Doug, thanks for comment, I did post an entry on Talk:Kurds, with a ref. Another user had already removed my addition to the article though. Let's await the discussion on the Talk Page.Loranchet (talk) 11:44, 1 July 2020 (UTC)

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