User talk:LordMcDoodle

Fugro - Kornelis/Kees Joustra
Hi Mitch, I see that you undid my previous change. I changed the name of the founder of Fugro from 'Kees Joustra' into 'Kornelis Joustra'. The latter is correct. Let me explain why. Kees is the calling name (or abbreviation) of the name Kornelis in the same way that Mike is the calling name of Michael. His actual name was Kornelis Joustra, though. I know this for a fact, since Kees/Kornelis Joustra is my father.

It seems that the reference on Fugro's own site is wrong as well. I'll contact them.

I'd like to suggest that we change the name into Kornelis 'Kees' Joustra.

Kind regards, Jeroen S.K. Joustra Leidschendam, The Netherlands


 * Thanks for that information.
 * Fugro's book Earth Unlimited also says Kees, but Fugro's Articles of Incorporation in the US have Kornelis, so I've added that as a reference.


 * You appear to be a new editor so I'll just mention a couple points here that you might not be aware of:
 * Information in Wikipedia articles needs to be verifiable and reliably sourced - which means that the article typically reflects what published sources say. We can't rely on personal knowledge alone, because it's not verifiable. (I'm not saying that your personal knowledge is wrong, but the criteria we use is verifiability, not truth.) If Fugro updated their web page with the formal version of Kees' name that would be useful. As it turns out the Articles of Incorporation of Fugro US Inc list Kornelis Joustra, so we can use that as a reference.
 * Writing a message to another user on your own talk page isn't generally very reliable, unless you know that the user is watching your page. Generally most editors aren't going to see your talk page unless they know to look there. (I only saw it because I checked your edit history in case there were other related edits.) If someone has posted you a message on your talk page, then they'll probably see the reply because they will probably be watching it (having edited it). Usually you could post a message on the talk page of the article of interest (eg Talk:Fugro) - someone who has recently edited that article and/or is interested in it is likely to be watching it. Or you could post a message on the talk page of the person you're writing to (eg User talk:Mitch Ames). Or you could use ping or user, which will notify the editor that they have been mentioned, even if they are not watching that page.
 * Don't worry if that all sounds a bit confusing - it can take a while to get to know some of the finer points, and generally people will be happy to help out as you go. Mitch Ames (talk) 02:04, 10 December 2016 (UTC)