User talk:Lord Bolingbroke/Archive 2

DYK for New Columbia (Portland, Oregon)
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Your draft article, Draft:Swan Island (Oregon)


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Rachel Gough
Hi there - I created the article Rachel Gough because (a) she is the principal bassoonist of (arguably) the UK's best-known orchestra; (b) WP articles have tended to focus on male players, most of whom are retired or dead. Are you happy that added content has address the notability question you placed? The FRAM alone (an industry marker of notability) ought to suffice. Many thanks, Millstream3 (talk) 15:31, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

help me
Help me improve this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali2523 (talk • contribs) 15:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * What specifically would you life help with? I'm not fluent in Persian, so my help might be limited. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 15:50, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Translation for essential resources and content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali2523 (talk • contribs) 15:56, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * As I said, I'm not fluent in Persian, so I will not be able to help you with translation. You could try reaching out to an editor on the Persian Wikipedia or an active editor in Category:User fa. Also, please remember to sign your comments by typing four tildes . – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 16:04, 28 March 2020 (UTC)

Update: the article in question (Roshanak saberan) was deleted at AfD. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 23:33, 8 May 2020 (UTC)

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help me
I created the page of fatemeh sharifFatemeh Sharif But I could not link it to the Persian article and activate its English translation. You help me Ali2523 (talk) 17:14, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't understand what you want help with. Are you saying you want a link to the Persian article from the English article? I've added a link to the enwiki article at, so a link to the Persian article now appears in the sidebar of Fatemeh Sharif. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 19:11, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much for this cooperation and helpAli2523 (talk) 15:42, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

The play The Serpent as sufficiently notable for Wikipedia article
I am not certain that you received my prior response. If you did, then I have nothing to add. Reasonable minds can disagree. If you did not receive my prior response, I noted that the editor of The Burns Mantle Yearbook: The Best Plays of 1969-1970 selected The Serpent as one of the 10 best plays of the New York theater season. This annual source book has been making such selections since 1894. This selection is noted in the proposed article.Raygauche (talk) 21:34, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , if the prior response you're referring to this edit on 's talk page, then no I did not receive it because it is not my talk page. I actually don't have a strong opinion on whether The Serpent is a notable play; however, the current sourcing at Draft:The Serpent (play) is not suitable for a mainspace article. It needs to be based on secondary sources rather than on interviews of people associated with the play. Out of curiosity, are you the person who conducted the interviews? I can't find copies of them on the Primary Stages website. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 04:18, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Lord Bolingbroke: Thank you for your clarification.  I interpreted your original response as indicating that The Serpent was not sufficiently notable for a Wikipedia article.  As a result, I only addressed that issue.  As to supporting documentation, first of all, thank you for pointing out that the primary stages link did not take one to the oral history project.  One actually has to tap on "explore" and then scroll down to the "oral history project."  The direct link is www.primarystagesoffcenter.org.  The interviews were conducted by individuals connected to Primary Stages; I did not conduct any of the interviews.  While I appreciate your concern about secondary sources, I would refer you to the Wikipedia article on The Open Theater.  References cited in support of that article include written interviews with members of The Open Theater.  An oral interview is more accurate, since one is listening to the interviewee directly without the filter of the interviewer writer.  I spent several hours listening to the interviews of members of The Open Theater in the oral history project, taking notes and then trying to condense the notes to key points.  I would also note that the description of the process of creating the play could not be found in a secondary source, as only participants were present.  If the participants reported the process to an author, who then wrote about the process, the result is really no more than a written interview.  As to the description of the play itself, the article could refer the reader to the description in the Wikipedia article for The Open Theater, which by the way cites no reference.  Finally, I would add some of the descriptions of the play in the proposed article are from a member of the audience describing what he observed.  I am willing to continue to work on this article.  However, I am reluctant to work on an article if the subject matter is not sufficiently notable in the first instance.  By the way, I began this article because when I clicked on The Serpent in The Open Theater article, I was alternatively invited to write a proposed article.Raygauche (talk) 22:31, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Lord Bolingbroke: I never received a reply to my May 12, 2020 respone.Raygauche (talk) 22:04, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

OGL
Hi. I see in a recent addition to Burnley Building Society you included material from a webpage that is available under an Open Government Licence. That's okay, but you have to give attribution so that our readers are made aware that you copied the prose rather than wrote it yourself. I've added the attribution for this particular instance. Please make sure that you follow this legal requirement when copying from compatibly-licensed material in the future.-- S Philbrick (Talk)  16:58, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I was aware of this, thanks. You might want to leave this message on the talk page of the editor who actually added the content, User:Devclaret. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:06, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , oh dear sorry. S Philbrick  (Talk)  17:44, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No worries! – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 17:47, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
 * , sorry about the edit conflict - it was a bare url when I tried to change it but all good now. S Philbrick  (Talk)  17:50, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Spoilers (american idol)
There was no spoiler warning on the article, I think the guidelines regarding spoilers needs some reworking, while there can be some little benefit to being spoiled like if you don't have time to watch the full show or something but most people don't like it especially for example, when they are briefly on wiki to get some quick info regarding earlier episodes in the season before they watch the new episode. There should be a courtesy for people on the west coast for shows that air on the east first, we don't need to jump ahead with everything just because they are 1-3 hrs ahead — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorrectBotx (talk • contribs) 05:22, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

help me in arranging an article
I have written an article in Persian, I ask you to link it to the same article in Persian, please fa:غلامرضا شاه حسینی en:Gholamreza shahhosseini — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali2523 (talk • contribs) 07:15, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Once again, I'm having trouble understanding what you're requesting. Are you saying you want a link to the Persian article to appear in the sidebar of the English article? – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 03:52, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
 * yes. please Ali2523 (talk) 11:10, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello again. Yes, exactly I want this English article to be linked to a Persian article. And this article should be available in both languages. Of course, I've written both articles before, but they didn't connect — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ali2523 (talk • contribs) 09:02, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
 * , at least for now. en:Gholamreza Shahhosseini is a complete mess, so I've opted to move it to draftspace for improvement. Start by adding citation info so that each reference doesn't have two or three CS1 errors. Also make sure that all material in the article has inline citation, rather than just including a list of references. For future reference, generating interlanguage links in the sidebar of an article is done through Wikidata. You had asked me earlier to link en:Fatemeh Sharif to its Persian-language counterpart. I did this at the article's Wikidata item –  – with this edit, and you can do the same for future articles. Just scroll to the bottom of the Wikidata item where it says "Wikipedia" and add enter the language code and article title you wish to add. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 00:17, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

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 * Mmm, thank you for the tea! I'm glad I could be of assistance with the dab pages. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 03:48, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

golden dawn
but left the party, his views are not relavant and did not represent the party, the source did not say it is golden dawn opnion, it was his personal opinion 2A00:801:42E:86BA:489A:CCF7:125B:B802 (talk) 15:49, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Ilias Kasidiaris was a member of Golden Dawn in 2018 when he made those statements. His Wikipedia bio says he was a spokesperson for the party, so it seems reasonable to include that information in the party article. (Original diff for context.) – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 18:46, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

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Thanks!

 * My pleasure ! Although I tend to be a bit deletionist at AfD, I do enjoy finding sources on pre-internet subjects that can sometimes be overlooked by other editors. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 00:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of The Drinks Group Holdings for deletion
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You're up!
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Your draft article, Draft:Portland Commission of Public Docks


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Paul Sethe
Many thanks for patience and efforts at the editing!!Rundstef (talk) 06:22, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, glad to be of assistance! – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 13:33, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

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Your reverts on Federico Gozi
Thanks Lord Bolingbroke for reverting them and for telling me why there wrong. Isn't there a policy though for deleting or draftying pages without any sources that haven't been edited in a long time? I'm not too familiar with all of wikipedia's policies so any help would be great! Best regards, Dan the Animator 19:19, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your cordial response. There isn't a bright-line rule about deleting pages that are unsourced or that haven't been edited for a long time. Just so you're aware, drafitying and speedy deletion are almost always reserved for new articles – not pages that have existed for several years in mainspace without controversy. It's important to keep in mind WP:NEXIST, which says that notability is based on the existence of sources, not on the sources currently in an article. (This is particularly important for topics like 16th century heads of state, where sources may not be readily available online.) If you don't think these Captains Regent are notable, I personally would start an articles for deletion discussion for one of them. If that AfD is closed with strong consensus to delete, you can start a bundled AfD for the others or tag them for proposed deletion (not WP:BLPPROD, since none of them are living people). Let me know if this answers your question. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 19:40, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you Lord Bolingbroke for your very thorough reply. This definitely answers my question. Thanks for the tremendous help and sorry for all the troubles. Best regards, Dan the Animator 19:50, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
 * No worries . I'd be glad to answer any other questions if you do decide to start an AfD. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 20:00, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Len Fisher
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Bishop of North Queensland
Thanks for your message and for moving the article and creating the disambig page. I had not noticed that the article had been moved in line with my request. Bahnfrend (talk) 09:49, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome, glad to help out. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 14:14, 10 April 2021 (UTC)

Help me with draft review
Hi Lord Bolingbroke, hope you're doing well. I'm having a problem with the draft I created, no one is reviewing it. If you don't mind can you please review the draft Draft:Eric Deters. The subject has a lot of independent news media coverage. Thank you. RASSIOPEIA (talk) 21:01, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * My guess why no one has reviewed your draft yet is that it is a paid piece that is clearly supposed to paint Deters in a favorable light. I agree that Deters is notable, but the draft does not give due weight to the controversies he has been involved in. A quick Google News search turns up articles about Deters being fined for unauthorized practice of law, threatening to burn down a courthouse, and other controversies, but none of this is reflected in the draft. I don't think the draft should be moved to mainspace until it more accurately reflects the coverage he has received in the media. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 21:51, 7 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm planning to expand it more accurately according to NPOV once it's in mainspace I can make you sure. — Preceding unsigned comment added by RASSIOPEIA (talk • contribs) 08:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)

Page moves
Once I saw the moves on my watchlist, I was going to simply check "thanks" in the diffs, but then I saw the whole round robin process, which I wasn't aware of (and tbh looks like a pain in the ass). And you did twice in row, so I wanted to post an actual note to say thank you, your efforts are appreciated. Cheers - wolf  23:50, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
 * You're welcome . The process of round-robin page swaps confused me a bit when I was first starting out with the page mover tools, but it's not bad once you get the hang of it. I do enjoy keeping an eye on WP:RM/TR since I feel like there's a good effort–reward ratio :) – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 00:05, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Please take care not to redirect a talk page to mainspace. If you want to be a regular helper at WP:RM/TR you really should run for administrator so you can do it without that round-robin kludge. wbm1058 (talk) 22:02, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for fixing my error . I double checked some of my other round-robin swaps, and it looks like that's the first time I accidentally redirected to mainspace rather than the proper talk page. I will certainly be more careful going forward. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 01:13, 27 May 2021 (UTC)

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Daniel Barel deletion
Hello, Lord Bolingbroke! I saw a notification for the page I created when I logged in, read the note on my Talk page, and also read the subsequent deletion conversation. I have gathered some additional sources for an REE Automotive page after my discussion with Mrs. SnoozyTurtle last week, and I am happy to put a draft together to see if it will pass notability. I just want to make sure I do it correctly, because I know there have been some issues in the past; once I have made a draft, is there a different process I should follow for publishing, or should I notify you and/or SnoozyTurtle once the draft is complete for you to review and publish?

Thank you for your help, and guidance on how to proceed (also, if this should have been placed in the deletion discussion page, please let me know and I will repost it). Have a great day! SotoRoto (talk) 18:48, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi, sorry for the late reply. Since there have been issues with undisclosed paid editing in the past, I would recommend creating Draft:REE Automotive and vetting it through our articles for creation process so that it can be reviewed by a neutral editor. Once you have created the draft, just add the code  to the top to submit for review. I appreciate your willingness to follow Wikipedia's processes since there have been issues with this article in the past. Let me know if you have any other questions and I'd be happy to assist. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 06:23, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your response - no worries about the delay, I appreciate the guidance. I will begin putting together a draft for REE Automotive and submit it through the Articles for Creation process - I certainly don't want to cause any additional issues. If I have any questions or difficulties with the process, I will reach out to you and/or MrsSnoozyTurtle again, you both have been very helpful (especially with necessary code, as I am still learning how to read in the 'source editor'). Thank you! SotoRoto (talk) 18:26, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Hello - I just wanted to reach out and let you know I have submitted an REE Automotive page through the Article for Creation process, just in case you wanted to review it. Thank you again for your help; I have learned quite a bit in the past few weeks! SotoRoto (talk) 19:53, 25 June 2021 (UTC)

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Draft:Lake and McHenry County Scanner
Hello Lord Bolingbroke, can you review Draft:Lake and McHenry County Scanner it's in pending for the last 3 months. Does this draft need to be improved? I'm looking forward to hearing from you. RASSIOPEIA (talk) 08:19, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
 * I generally do not review drafts on request. The draft was declined as non-notable, and after a cursory review I would agree with that assessment. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 23:31, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

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There are currently 706 New Page Reviewers plus a further 1,080 admins, but as much as nearly 90% of the patrolling is still being done by around only the 20 or so most regular patrollers.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process or its software. Various awards are due to be allocated by the end of the year and barnstars are overdue. If you would like to manage this, please let us know. Indeed, if you are interested in coordinating NPR, it does not involve much time and the tasks are described here. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent to 827 users. 04:31, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

"Discuss 1" but where?
Hello! I noticed you removed the discussion of a requested move, however you didn't really provide a link as to where we could continue the discussion and simply just left the edit summary "discuss 1". Mind telling me where you intend the discussion to be continued? ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 15:23, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * It's at Talk:Yenya—the talk page of the article that was requested to be moved. This is standard practice at WP:RM/TR. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 15:26, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Ah ok thank you. I had suggested we move the discussion there, however the user didn't really seem to notice. ― Blaze The WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#0001 15:28, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Father (rapper) has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Father (rapper). Thanks! S0091 (talk) 00:13, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks for the barnstar ! I'm glad to be of assistance. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 02:06, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Father (rapper) has been accepted
 Father (rapper), which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.

Congratulations, and thank you for helping expand the scope of Wikipedia! We hope you will continue making quality contributions.

The article has been assessed as Start-Class, which is recorded on its talk page. Most new articles start out as Stub-Class or Start-Class and then attain higher grades as they develop over time. You may like to take a look at the grading scheme to see how you can improve the article.

Since you have made at least 10 edits over more than four days, you can now create articles yourself without posting a request. However, you may continue submitting work to Articles for creation if you prefer.

If you have any questions, you are welcome to ask at the  [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_talk/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=Father_(rapper) help desk] . Once you have made at least 10 edits and had an account for at least four days, you will have the option to create articles yourself without posting a request to Articles for creation.

If you would like to help us improve this process, please consider.

Thanks again, and happy editing! — Bilorv ( talk ) 22:13, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Cande y Paulo
Hello, Lord Bolingbroke. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Cande y Paulo, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

If the page has already been deleted, you can request it be undeleted so you can continue working on it.

Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 11:01, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

Tagging pages for speedy deletion
Hello, Lord Bolingbroke,

I was looking over Mike Guillen and I was surprised to see that you didn't notify the page creator when you tagged this article for speedy deletion. This is an important part of the deletion process, whether deletion by CSD, PROD or AFD/RFD/TFD/etc. You need to tell the page creator when an article they created might be deleted.

This is done most easily if you make use of Twinkle to tag pages for deletion. If you set up your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator" and make sure all CSD criteria are selected, then Twinkle posts these messages for you when you tag the page. If you don't want to use Twinkle, then you'll have to write these notices yourself. Please do not omit this step in the future if you tag any more pages for deletion. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 07:02, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Quite right, thanks for the reminder. I typically use Twinkle but tagged manually in this case and it slipped my mind. – Lord Bolingbroke (talk) 07:04, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

WP:AFC Helper News
Hello! I wanted to drop a quick note for all of our AFC participants; nothing huge and fancy like a newsletter, but a few points of interest. Short and sweet, but there's always more to discuss at WT:AFC. Stop on by, maybe review a draft on the way? Whether you're one of our top reviewers, or haven't reviewed in a while, I want to thank you for helping out in the past and in the future. Cheers, Primefac, via MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:00, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * AFCH will now show live previews of the comment to be left on a decline.
 * The template db-afc-move has been created - this template is similar to db-move when there is a redirect in the way of an acceptance, but specifically tells the patrolling admin to let you (the draft reviewer) take care of the actual move.

You're Invited! Writing Black History of the Pacific Northwest into Wikipedia
On, Friday, February 25, 2022, Oregon State University will be hosting an online editathon focused on Black history of the Pacific Northwest. You can learn more here and/or register here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:26, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

Portland Art+Feminism Edit-a-thon: March 12, 2022
You are invited! An Art+Feminism Wikipedia edit-a-thon will be held in Portland, Oregon, on March 12, 2022. Learn more here!

Wikipedia is one of the most-visited sites on the internet—and it’s created by people who volunteer their time to write and edit pages. Learn how to edit Wikipedia and be a part of shaping our understanding of our world. In this workshop, volunteer Wikipedia editors will be on hand to train participants on how to get started editing pages and offer ideas for which pages you can pitch in to help improve. Show up at any point during the four hours to get started!

Also: Free burritos!! We will be providing vegan, vegetarian, and meat burritos from food cart Loncheria Las Mayos. Alder Commons has a large, fenced playground. Children are welcome! Some computers will be available to borrow, but if you have a laptop, please bring it to use. We will also be leading an online training for new editors at 11am-12pm PST. Please feel free to join that training if you are not able to show up IRL.

This event is part of the international month of events organized by Art+Feminism, which is building a community of activists committed to closing information gaps related to gender, feminism, and the arts, beginning with Wikipedia. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:37, 8 March 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

In the last 30 days, only 100 reviewers have made more than 8 patrols and only 50 have averaged one review a day. There are currently Special:ListUsers/patroller New Page Reviewers, but about a third have not had any activity in the past month. All administrators have this permission, but only about a dozen significantly contribute to NPP.

This means we have an active pool of about 450 to address the backlog. We cannot rely on a few to do most of the work as that inevitably leads to burnout. A fairly experienced reviewer can usually do a review in a few minutes. If every active reviewer would patrol just one article per day, the backlog would very quickly disappear.

If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, do suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.

If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. Sent 05:18, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Cande y Paulo


Hello, Lord Bolingbroke. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Cande y Paulo".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 01:23, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
Hello ,

At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
 * Backlog status

Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

A backlog reduction drive, coordinated by buidhe and Zippybonzo, will be held from July 1 to July 31. Sign up here. Barnstars will be awarded.
 * Backlog drive

Many new articles on schools are being created by new users in developing and/or non-English-speaking countries. The authors are probably not even aware of Wikipedia's projects and policy pages. WP:WPSCH/AG has some excellent advice and resources specifically written for these users. Reviewers could consider providing such first-time article creators with a link to it while also mentioning that not all schools pass the GNG and that elementary schools are almost certainly not notable.
 * TIP – New school articles

There is a new template available,, to show the current backlog. You can place it on your user or talk page as a reminder:
 * Misc

There has been significant discussion at WP:VPP recently on NPP-related matters (Draftification, Deletion, Notability, Verifiability, Burden). Proposals that would somewhat ease the burden on NPP aren't gaining much traction, although there are suggestions that the role of NPP be fundamentally changed to focus only on major CSD-type issues.


 * Reminders
 * Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
 * If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.
 * If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
 * To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.
 * Notes

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:01, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
(t &#183; c)  buidhe  20:25, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
Hello ,

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
 * Backlog status

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


 * Coordination: and  have taken on some of the coordination tasks. Please let them know if you are interested in helping out.  will be handling recognition, and will be retroactively awarding the annual barnstars that have not been issued for a few years.


 * Open letter to the WMF: The Page Curation software needs urgent attention. There are dozens of bug fixes and enhancements that are stalled (listed at Suggested improvements). We have written a letter to be sent to the WMF and we encourage as many patrollers as possible to sign it here. We are also in negotiation with the Board of Trustees to press for assistance. Better software will make the active reviewers we have more productive.


 * TIP - Reviewing by subject: Reviewers who prefer to patrol new pages by their most familiar subjects can do so from the regularly updated sorted topic list.


 * New reviewers: The NPP School is being underused. The learning curve for NPP is quite steep, but a detailed and easy-to-read tutorial exists, and the Curation Tool's many features are fully described and illustrated on the updated page here.


 * Reminders
 * Consider staying informed on project issues by putting the project discussion page on your watchlist.
 * If you have noticed a user with a good understanding of Wikipedia notability and deletion, suggest they help the effort by placing on their talk page.
 * If you are no longer very active on Wikipedia or you no longer wish to be part of the New Page Reviewer user group, please consider asking any admin to remove you from the list. This will enable NPP to have a better overview of its performance and what improvements need to be made to the process and its software.
 * To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:24, 6 August 2022 (UTC)

NPP message
Hi ,

For those who may have missed it in our last newsletter, here's a quick reminder to see the letter we have drafted, and if you support it, do please go ahead and sign it. If you already signed, thanks. Also, if you haven't noticed, the backlog has been trending up lately; all reviews are greatly appreciated.
 * Invitation

To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:10, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

New pages patrol newsletter
Hello ,

Backlog update: At the time of this message, there are 11,300 articles and 15,600 redirects awaiting review. This is the highest backlog in a long time. Please help out by doing additional reviews!

October backlog elimination drive: A one-month backlog drive for October will start in one week! Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled. Articles will earn 4x as many points compared to redirects. You can sign up here.

PageTriage code upgrades: Upgrades to the PageTriage code, initiated by the NPP open letter in 2022 and actioned by the WMF Moderator Tools Team in 2023, are ongoing. More information can be found here. As part of this work, the Special:NewPagesFeed now has a new version in beta! The update leaves the NewPagesFeed appearance and function mostly identical to the old one, but updates the underlying code, making it easier to maintain and helping make sure the extension is not decommissioned due to maintenance issues in the future. You can try out the new Special:NewPagesFeed here - it will replace the current version soon.

Notability tip: Professors can meet WP:PROF #1 by having their academic papers be widely cited by their peers. When reviewing professor articles, it is a good idea to find their Google Scholar or Scopus profile and take a look at their h-index and number of citations. As a very rough rule of thumb, for most fields, articles on people with a h-index of twenty or more, a first-authored paper with more than a thousand citations, or multiple papers each with more than a hundred citations are likely to be kept at AfD.

Reviewing tip: If you would like like a second opinion on your reviews or simply want another new page reviewer by your side when patrolling, we recommend pair reviewing! This is where two reviewers use Discord voice chat and screen sharing to communicate with each other while reviewing the same article simultaneously. This is a great way to learn and transfer knowledge.

Reminders:
 * You can access live chat with patrollers on the New Page Patrol Discord.
 * Consider adding the project discussion page to your watchlist.
 * To opt out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:45, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive
 Hello Lord Bolingbroke:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!

The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

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