User talk:Loreal17

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sharon Katz (July 7)
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Theroadislong (talk) 08:20, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

July 2021
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Draft:Sharon Katz. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 17:47, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Then leave us alone, and work on what you know about. Get off this thread since you never heard of her. We don't need a judgmental bully attacking us. Get out and stay out.
 * Wikipedia is a collaborative project, I work on articles for creation like yours. You cannot behave like this, it will likely lead to a block. You say "us" whilst Wikipedia accounts are strictly for single person use.Theroadislong (talk) 17:55, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Please stop attacking other editors, as you did on Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Theroadislong (talk) 17:57, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Do not work on this article. If Wikipedia is a collaborative group, then don't get rid of our article, and let Sharon's fans work on it. I posted this yesterday, and you're harassing us. You're the one that's attacking us. Leave us alone. I have a note to wikipedia about your bullying. Leave us alone, and go work on an article about pottery. Thank you. Again, please work on something else, and leave us alone. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loreal17 (talk • contribs)

 You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:12, 7 July 2021 (UTC)


 * If the personal attacks and disruption continue once the block expires, you will likely be blocked indefinitely. Ensuring that your edits and actions align with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines in no way constitutes harassment. -- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 18:12, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to the submission and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
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Loreal17 (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2021 (UTC) I've repeatedly asked that theroadislong not be involved. He's bullying us, and should not be involved in editing this page.

Your submission at Articles for creation
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.


 * If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to the submission and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
 * If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "Db-g7" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
 * If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
 * If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/Help_desk&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User_talk:Loreal17 Articles for creation help desk], on the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Loreal17&action=edit&section=new&nosummary=1&preload=Template:AfC_decline/HD_preload&preloadparams%5B%5D=User_talk:Loreal17 reviewer's talk page] or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Loreal17 (talk) 19:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC) I request that "theroadislong" not be involved with further drafts. We just started this page, and he deleted it in less than 12 hours. Please understand it's going to take some time because we want Sharon's fans involved. We have to reach out to them on social media, and see who's used wikipedia before. We're not hiring an editor. We're making this a fan project.

Sharon's important to the history of South African music post apartheid, as she was the first one to get all races to sing together. This was something that helped Mandela in his first term. She is involved with border children in other countries, now. And she's famous to the point that South African musicians know who she is.

Please respect this project, and let us work on it as a team.

Do not have your "editors" coming in to rain on our parade as we build this page together. I can't handle that, and it is as abusive as a teacher or father interrupting his child.

Thank you. Loreal17 (talk) 19:17, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Please calm down, your draft was NOT deleted it was declined so that you could improve it, before re-submitting for review. Theroadislong (talk) 19:25, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

OK, Theroadislong. I'm sorry I got pissed at you. You're right. I should've understood that you're trying to get me to get everything right. Please understand that it's going to take some time. I, honestly, thought we'd have four months to get all the initial copy done. We want to make this a fan project. The act is known and loved, especially in South Africa and different parts of North America. And she was nominated for a Grammy. My request, please, is that you give us time as a group to work on this. I'm aiming to keep this as a draft and to reach out to Sharon's fans on social media to get them involved. It'll be a great experience for everyone.

I know that a lot of wiki listings are engineered by editors--we want to make this a fan process.

ALSO note:  One of the links in your initial report led to something that felt like warnings about scammers. I quickly left that link as I wasn't sure if that was someone trying to hack us. That was another reason I felt pressured and went chaotic on you.

I'll be back over the weekend, and please be soft on us. I want to see if we can start working on this in the next two weeks.

22:22, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
 * You still have time. Drafts don't "time-out" until six months from their last edit, so as long as people keep working on the draft to bring it up to par it's unlikely to be deleted. —A little blue Bori  v^_^v  Jéské Couriano 22:28, 7 July 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Sharon Katz
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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 10:01, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

We had a super busy year, and will start on this as a fan project in the future. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.223.78 (talk) 21:39, 9 December 2021 (UTC)