User talk:Loreanar/sandbox

Yo dude, you should put your references next to what it's referencing. For Example: " yada yada yada also yada yada yada " that way it connects a little better. Also you template is all screwy. copy and paste the Template from on of the professor's article and fill out the information according to what you have. Everything else leave blank if you do not have anything to show for it.

That's the template thing use that, Good luck bro or bra, idk. Carlostrek (talk) 19:37, 14 April 2015 (UTC)

Some notes
Hey, just wanted to drop in and note a few things.

First off, be careful about taking titles from WorldCat. The site is excellent for finding lists of works but they don't capitalize all of the books' title and sometimes the title formatting can be off in general. I've left this alone on your page but fixed this on the pre-existing page for Nora Burglon.

Secondly, there were some issues with sourcing. I'd recommend against using search results as sources like you did with this link. The problem with listing things like this is that you can't always guarantee that this is what will appear when the reader clicks on the link. Some websites time out after a certain point in time and/or the results will change over time- it could be that the NYPL may add or remove books by Burglon from their records. In this case it might end up that the holding facility decides to make the books inaccessible to the public, culls them, or otherwise makes them unavailable to the NYPL. I'd also recommend against using merchant sites like Amazon as a source for several reasons. The biggest reason is that by linking to the site it can come across as an endorsement of Amazon and the product, which Wikipedia tries to avoid, but it's also because sometimes merchant sources aren't the best sources for basic data. This is especially true with older books where the site doesn't have a true listing and instead relies on information provided by the merchant, who may get things wrong. It's good sometimes for basic information, but with older books WorldCat is a better outlet for this. Sites like BookRags shouldn't be used in general since that's a merchant site (to a degree) and they charge for access to materials. There's also sort of a lack of clarity on who exactly writes the student guides, which is important. In order to be a reliable source you need to be able to verify the site's editorial oversight. In this case the page is a merchant link so it can't be used but this is important to note with pages in general, especially review outlets and anything that looks to be a self-published source.

Also be careful of using things like Linkedin. The issue with this is that this is something that was wholly written by the subject or someone affiliated with her, which makes it a WP:PRIMARY source. Primary sources can be used to back up some basic details, but it should be used with caution- especially when it comes to places like Linkedin since they're kind of considered a promotional-ish type source. There's nothing out there that would explicitly state that you can't use it since it's not exactly like merchant sources like Amazon, but it is something that I'd recommend that you should avoid- mostly because anyone can claim anything on Linkedin. This isn't as much of a worry with people like Ann Weil, but there have been enough cases in the past of people puffing up their resumes to where we try to avoid using them in general.

I know that at this point you're just putting together drafts and these sources may not end up in the final article, but I did see where you'd put the NYPL link in the Burglon article and I wanted to caution you on these so that you didn't add these other sources to other articles. Another thing to note is that many of these look like they're more used to establish that the person exists and that their books exist. In general these things will almost never be challenged or doubted- the most frequently challenged thing on Wikipedia is notability, not existence. (Although that does happen on occasion.)

I hope that none of this comes across badly, just that I wanted to give you a bit of a warning on these things since they are common problems and sadly, a lot of times you'll just see that people remove these without ever really establishing why they shouldn't be used. Unfortunately there's a pretty sharp learning curve sometimes on Wikipedia. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  07:02, 9 May 2015 (UTC)

*Tokyogirl79 Thank you, for your comments. I will consult with my professor. ♥ Loreanar (talk) 19:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)