User talk:Loren T Hudson

Shortridge High School
Your article about Shortridge High School has a LOT of potential, but there are some problems.


 * If the athletic information is a direct copy-and-paste from the ISHAA web site, that is a copyright violation. However, the information can be reformatted to avoid this without major problems.
 * Needs Wikilinks throughout.
 * The third sources in the reference list concerns me. Is this an interview with someone or what? A book? A paper? A published article? If it is a personal interview that the author has conducted with someone, or is the personal recollections of the author himself/herself, that would constitute original research, which is not allowed. More independent sources would come in handy, too, and footnote the sources to link with the appropriate sections of the article.

Let me know if I can help. Realkyhick 02:10, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I have trouble with the editor and setting up the references. The majority of the introductory section came from sources (Indiana Historical Society et al.) that were in turn referencing "I4647 G38 1985, Laura S. Gaus, Shortridge High School 1864-1981 In Retrospect (1985)" I got a better title. It is a book written at the request of Indiana Historical Society. It is referenced in the Indianapolic Public schools site among others.

The records were originally from the IHSAA site but I reformatted it through Excel and removed the school name which was redundant in this situation. The school was associated with most of the references so I think I am good on that point.

Wikilinks are something new to me so I will have to work on those later. I do however have a better reference for the Vonnegut quote as being originally from the PBS show NOW on 10/7/05. I will have to look up how to format the reference though. It has been a long time since college.

I'm not done with this article by any means and appreciate any help with the formatting and correct forms. It seems funny that there are already links to this article even before I wrote it. (Kurt Vonnegut) I will be fixing this up soon so give me a bit of time and I will attempt to bring the format up to snuff.


 * The references can be a bit tricky for newcomers. Here are two links to how to do citations on Wikipedia: WP:CITE, the full policy and instructions, and WP:CQR, the quick-reference page. (I didn't even know about the CQR page until I was researching this for you. Hey. I learned something today! Yay!) It's just a matter of putting them in the proper format.


 * I started some reformatting on the athletic records, but I started to fall asleep after awhile (too long a night at The Birmingham News dealing with high school sports results, oddly enough). As for the existing links to your article, that's not terribly unusual — other editors will put links to articles they assume already exist, or will exist soon. When you see a "redlink" (as opposed to the standard blue link), that's a link to an article that doesn't exist yet. Realkyhick 06:21, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

Trying to fix things but...
I added a number of additional citations and would be glad if someone could clean things up for me by changing things to harvard notation. I don't have the editing savy. I have a piece of information I found in a footnote in an article. The article says that in the 10/21/57 issue of Time that Shortridge was "one of the 38 best high schools in the United States". I would like to use it but I am not sure how to attribut it. Can use Time magazine of do I reference the article that I got the information from? This scolarly stuff is more work than I bargained for. Thanks for any help. Tom HudsonLoren T Hudson 00:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * You're doing fine, Tom. Just put the at the end of the reference, and the Wiki software will automatically put the footnote in the references section. I set it up for you with the references you had. You don't have to be exact on the footnote for the Time article - just something like, "Name of article," author's name, Time, October 21, 1957.


 * Don't stress it too much. You're already way ahead of most new editors. Realkyhick 05:39, 21 March 2007 (UTC)