User talk:Loriendrew/Archive 11

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Need help
My user name is Jewel Inc. and I work closely with the Grammy nominated artist Jewel. I have tried a number of times to clarify and update Jewel’s biography page. I noticed that you had reverted my edits back. I do have sources I can “but I do not know how to put that in a coding format. If I get you the information in the sources can the page be updated properly to reflect the truth. Jewel Inc (talk) 03:37, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I am sorry your first experience editing here was not as productive as you had hoped. User:C.Fred was the person who reverted your edits, although given time I would have done the same. As he mentioned on your talk page the edits were unsourced, which are a fundamental requirement for biographical articles. For help in learning how to add references please read Help:Referencing for beginners. The edits did appear to be promotional rather than biographic. There was a heavy emphasis on people other than Jewel herself, with a strong (repeated) insertion of a particular individual. Additionally you should very carefully read over the first part of your talk page regarding a conflict of interest. Wiki has articles written "about" not "for" someone.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  02:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

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Edit warring
Hi! I’m not sure if you’re the right person for this—I’m just reporting to the first person I see in the edit history of the Jenna Coleman article. There is an anonymous user who keeps adding unsourced information on what’s presumably Melia from Xenoblade Chronicles 3. As it stands, her role has not been confirmed for the this upcoming video game, even though Coleman is most likely reprising her role as Melia. How do I let this user know that unsourced information is discouraged on Wikipedia?—MomoQca (talk) 12:24, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately dynamic IPs will change, so a message sent to one address will not be seen by another. If this persists you may request page protection or report that one user to WP:AIV and request a low–level range block.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  12:35, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I see. Thank you!—MomoQca (talk) 13:02, 22 February 2022 (UTC)

Ken Jacobs
Ken has a daughter named Nisi, who is also an experimental film maker. It seems unfair to mention her brother but not her. Here is a link to a showing of films at the Film Maker's Coop including her - https://vimeo.com/ondemand/survivalofnature

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Scrubjay (talk • contribs) 20:58, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Please read Template:Infobox person for instructions on how to list children. Non-notable children, such as those without articles, should not be named. Feel free to write an article about her if you feel she meets notability guidelines.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  02:06, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Wikilinks style guidelines.
In the article on veil you keep reverting a correction to a wikilink. The version you keep reverting to doesn't follow wiki styling guidelines, as your revision requires readers chase links. It as well does not explain the subject that the link is of.

For more information please refer to the style manual — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8080:B400:5D2B:61FE:E00B:FF26:B3CD (talk) 16:09, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Perhaps it would be prudent for you to look up the definition of “nonsensical” for it does not appear to mean what you intend to say. The link to a section describing Colorado’s home rule municipality is neither nonsensical nor a style issue? There is specifically a section on linking to sections. Additionally you continue to inappropriately modify a citation, which at this point can be considered vandalism.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  21:18, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

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Explain how that is disruptive editing.
Surely that edit at John Rogan would come under unsourced additions, are you trying to accuse me of something else? --BezosJohnson (talk) 19:04, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
 * As you have had multiple warnings for unsourced additions, a level–3 warning was given to you.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  22:22, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter May 2022
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At the time of the last newsletter (No.26, September 2021), the backlog was 'only' just over 6,000 articles. In the past six months, the backlog has reached nearly 16,000, a staggering level not seen in several years. A very small number of users had been doing the vast majority of the reviews. Due to "burn-out", we have recently lost most of this effort. Furthermore, several reviewers have been stripped of the user right for abuse of privilege and the articles they patrolled were put back in the queue.

Several discussions on the state of the process have taken place on the talk page, but there has been no action to make any changes. The project also lacks coordination since the "position" is vacant.

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New Page Patrol newsletter June 2022
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At the time of the last newsletter (No.27, May 2022), the backlog was approaching 16,000, having shot up rapidly from 6,000 over the prior two months. The attention the newsletter brought to the backlog sparked a flurry of activity. There was new discussion on process improvements, efforts to invite new editors to participate in NPP increased and more editors requested the NPP user right so they could help, and most importantly, the number of reviews picked up and the backlog decreased, dipping below 14,000 at the end of May.
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Since then, the news has not been so good. The backlog is basically flat, hovering around 14,200. I wish I could report the number of reviews done and the number of new articles added to the queue. But the available statistics we have are woefully inadequate. The only real number we have is the net queue size.

In the last 30 days, the top 100 reviewers have all made more than 16 patrols (up from 8 last month), and about 70 have averaged one review a day (up from 50 last month).

While there are more people doing more reviews, many of the ~730 with the NPP right are doing little. Most of the reviews are being done by the top 50 or 100 reviewers. They need your help. We appreciate every review done, but please aim to do one a day (on average, or 30 a month).

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NPP July 2022 backlog drive is on!
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Glastonbury Attendance Figures
My change uses capacity to estimate attendance as the festival was sold out in 2022. The change you reverted to also uses capacity to estimate attendance except it is an outdated figure from 2019. Musicfestivalexpert (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Upon further inspection - I see it is a post festival attendance figure for 2019. Thank you. Musicfestivalexpert (talk) 21:49, 22 July 2022 (UTC)

New Page Patrol newsletter August 2022
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After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators and, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.
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Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.


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January 2023
Hello, I'm CastJared. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Jessica Jones (TV series), but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. CastJared (talk) 19:18, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

I forgot
I didn't know that Aardman Features was a division and not a parent name. Chiagozie Elobuike (talk) 23:49, 31 January 2023 (UTC)

About the article “1939”
Well, I wasn't doing a test that needed to be done in the sandbox, but I was customizing the events (and the references). Yes, several same-day events present there came from the same site (not random!), and I don't know why it's not clear, because if I took it and put it in the external links, it wouldn't be known about the existence of sources for *those* events. I don't do meaningless things! ESTÉFANO FRIGO ZAGO (talk) 15:47, 15 February 2023 (UTC)

Michelle Enrile choking death
If you lived in the San Jose area in 1999-2001 that was the story everyone was talking about and also the court case. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.232.17.9 (talk) 20:23, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The court case and situation may be notable, unfortunately Michelle's event is a person notable for only one event which normally does not warrant an article. Also, she is one of many people who have chocked on this candy.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  22:36, 12 March 2023 (UTC)

Tooth Fairy Article
Hey Loriendrew. I am asking that you did make a mistake to the Tooth Fairy Article. the stuff I added was that the Tooth Fairy also adds candy, and other items, not only a payment. Also I added a image caption. "People Dressing Up As The Tooth Fairy On Halloween". This stuff has to be added back. Gideonbratlandofficial (talk) 00:00, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * You did not add a caption, just unsourced age ranges and groups.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  00:02, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I just added words to the page. I have no idea what ur talking about. Gideonbratlandofficial (talk) 00:05, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

New Page Patrol – May 2023 Backlog Drive
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Eliza Taylor
You can drop by my User:Kizo2703/sandbox, take your time and see if everything is encyclopedic now? Most of it is waiting there for weeks. It's time that we edit Eliza Taylor's site properly. I look forward to your comments. Kizo2703 (talk) 14:38, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
 * If you would like, I can edit your sandbox to make some helpful style edits.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  00:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, go ahead, do it. Kizo2703 (talk) 09:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅} Take a look at the edit summaries to help with future inclusions. If you think it looks good, feel free to add it in, and replace what we changed.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  22:00, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Looks fine to me. Will do as soon get some free time. And thank you for your time. Kizo2703 (talk) 23:49, 4 May 2023 (UTC)

Where is show preview?
I can't see the show preview button, I know it exists but can't see it. I have 2 screenshots as examples, one you can't see it at the bottom of the page, but in another you can, The screenshot where you can see it is on another wiki. I suspect that this has to do with me using legacy vector, not sure tho. Sebbog13 (talk) 15:10, 14 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Ohh it shows up when you click Publish Changes, sorry I am so used to seeing it on the bottom on other wikis lmao. Sebbog13 (talk) 15:11, 14 May 2023 (UTC)

"Elle(film)" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elle(film)&redirect=no Elle(film)] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. Steel1943 (talk) 05:36, 24 May 2023 (UTC)

Shaun Weiss
My year of birth is 1979. Please leave the DOB edit, and any other future edits to my team to correct. Thank you. ShaunWeiss (talk) 17:57, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Please see the Conflict of Interest notice on your talk page. Unsourced edits to biographies of living people may be removed if conflicting or unverifiable.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  22:13, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Fake you?
I assume this isn't you - 10mmsocket (talk) 08:10, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Not me! Interesting.. don't recall ever encountering that sock/master.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  10:27, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Reverted edits on Pop-punk
It appears that your reverted my edit to Pop-punk, in which, I added an image to the infobox describing how Green Day was the most successful of the genre. Your reasoning was that it was, "not appropriate for infobox". I disagree with this, as British Invasion, Smooth jazz, Rap rock, and especially Grunge have similar images and captions. In addition, I cited 2 sources and was stating a fact that they are the most successful of the genre. If you would like to open a discussion on the talk page or discuss it on here, that would be great. Sincerely, Key of G Minor. Tools: (talk, contribs) 01:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Pop-punk is not Green Day's primary genre, so stating they are the best selling artist is the equivalent of creative accounting. MOS:CAPLENGTH for infoboxes should be short and succinct, in this situation if it were appropriate, something like "Green Day in 2010" would be appropriate; as such it would not offer any information to contribute to understanding the topic. If you wish to include the image, please gain consensus on the talk page of the article.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  22:55, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

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An Overlong but Superbly Written Response to Your Accusation
Thank you for advising me about adding defamatory content to Wikipedia. I know I've been bad, and were I a child, I'd suggest you paddle my bare bottom. (Isn't the subjunctive lovely? Would that it not be moribund in English.) I wish you were with me tonight. You could bathe me (très excitant!) and wrap me in my jammies and kindly advise me about all sorts of things. For you, after all, are a master intellect. For you, after all, with your wise and prophetic musings, are a modern-day Pythia (which--truth be told--makes me cry).

Now, lest I tax your patience, I proceed to the business of the court: I don't know who Melissa Benoist is, and am therefore confused and troubled by your charges. I searched for her at once on Wikipedia, but my (admittedly cursory) glance at her (very tedious) page failed to assuage my anxious bewilderment. (Please don't think that I'm denying your accusation, Pythia: I simply don't remember thinking of the bitch, let alone defaming her.) (Oh, bother! I must be careful. Let me assure you that I do not mean "bitch" in any pejorative sense.) Since I don't doubt that I said something, I assume that you were justified in taking offense. And I'm certain that having your nose in the air is a good look for you.

Eventually, of course, I shall be blocked from editing. Of this I am sure. But I don't want you to feel ever sorrow in your heart. Merci de ne pas! For I shall reveal to you a secret: I am a phoenix of Wikipedia. Once I rise triumphantly from the flames of my expulsion, I shall once again make my presence known by means of gentle observations and fabulous bons mots. (Oh, how this thought sustains me! Much like the spinster who misplaced a bratwurst in her underwear, I find myself almost giddy with pleasure!) (Gracious, I do overuse parenthetical asides, don't I? Um, er... not so fast! This does not mean that I am Joyce Carol Oates!! I'M NOT, I SWEAR IT!!!)

Anyhoo, it is time I retire, with my book and my nasal spray. (I'm rereading Descartes, Les passions de l'âme, and loving it!) As I say goodnight, may I ask a favor? Décontracte! It is not a big favor. It is simply this: go at once to your kitchen and open a drawer. Find something very sharp. Take it in hand and shove it so far up your ass that you cut your fucking tongue off. Bon appétit! I love you. Untold Millions (talk) 19:07, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

class parameter
In regards to my edits of "class parameters" that you have reverted I bundled the duplicate class parameter under wikiproject banner shell, which to me makes the templates look cleaner (I think is a rather recent change that was made to how the banner shell system works). I didn't think anybody would find such a change controversial or needing explaining, seeing as the class ranking is still maintained under the wpbs (and it's not as if any of these rankings where uniquely given by wikiprojects). Do you have any particular reason for wanting to keep the duplicate rankings instead of bundling them? Cakelot1 ☞&#xFE0F;  talk  22:55, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * The use of edit summaries, of which you applied to none of the talk page edits, would have been helpful.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  00:35, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Global quality assessments
I noticed your recent rollbacks regarding removal of class parameters. The edits were in good faith, and a result of the unanimously supported Village pump (proposals)/Archive 198. Due to this, articles which are rated a certain quality level by all the WikiProjects on its talk page should have their rating move to the banner shell. This will automatically populate all relevant WikiPRoject categories. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 22:59, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Something like this should be mentioned in an edit summary. None of the rollbacks mentioned any rationale for the changes.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  00:38, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I'm sure you're not at fault here because it is easy to miss out on developments like this, and without appropriate summaries, there's no way to know what's going on. I just wanted to inform you about the development. &#8212;CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {C•X}) 05:54, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

why revert
There is a mention of de Sade on Reve's wiki page, so why revert? Stop doing this. Thank you! Tjerkvermaning (talk) 13:38, 15 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You had just added an unsourced statement to Reve's article then added him as an influence to Sade. Please provide reliable sourcing.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  13:45, 15 July 2023 (UTC)

Kate Todd
Explain to me why the IMDb, one of the most comprehensive documentation of entertainment details, is a poor source? Jaiquiero (talk) 01:12, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Please see WP:RS/IMDB.-- ☾Loriendrew☽  ☏(ring-ring)  01:15, 20 July 2023 (UTC)

New page patrol October 2023 Backlog drive
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