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I just did the "Comparison of operating systems: Add Inferno and improve Plan 9 data" on your todo list. Also updated the Acme info in the comparison of text editors. I looked at the shell comparison page, but bash's inclusion of a random number generator and TCP/UDP in the friggin' shell got me ill before i could add the rc stuff. I think somebody else already added ed to the text editor's page.
 * Hey! Very cool, thanks! Any idea about how we could call the Inferno API other than "propietary" which is somewhat misleading? Maybe "Limbo API"? Lost Goblin 04:14, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

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Xeni Jardin
I came into the discussion on the above via a RfC. The situation was a stalemate and the page was protected. After a considerable amount of discussion a consensus was reached by the 7 editors who participated in the discussion (6 signed and 1 said he would respect it). This was so the the article could be unprotected to enable content to be added. The purpose of the article as clearly stated in BLP is to be about the subject's life, not mount an attack on that person and the criticism was imbalanced. The page was unprotected by an admin with the following note:
 * This page is now unprotected. For the record, I won't allow users to ignore concensus. I added this page onto my watchlist and I will make sure concensus is respected. Send me a message if you have any problems. :-) --Lord Deskana Dark Lord of the Sith 07:11, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

I see that you disagree with the consensus and the way in which it was reached, but nevertheless it does exist. I would like to ask:
 * a) will you respect it despite your disagreement
 * b) do you intend to ignore it and edit regardless
 * c) will you try to achieve a different consensus, but respect it until you do.

An important part of the consensus was that xenisucks.com would not be linked from the article directly, but would be mentioned, and there would be a link to the boing boing page where Jardin writes about it. I suggest that the way forward is to add good verifiable content to the article about the subject's life.

Tyrenius 00:28, 28 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your comments, I would opt for c), but given the length of the arguments in the relevant article talk page I don't have the time or energy to follow such discussions. While I disagree with the "consensus" I think that after your last change at least the current article is not outright misleading.


 * I think it would be a good idea if the "consensus" was displayed more clearly and prominently in the talk page. I still have not figured out where it has been agreed that making the string "Xenisucks.com" a link is not acceptable, and why, this is not a big issue for me, but it is hard to argue about something that is so hard to find (sorry if I didn't try hard enough) --Lost Goblin 01:36, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree it can be difficult to find the consensus, so I have posted a summary at the bottom of the talk page. The final consensus was that there would not be a link, but that the presence of xenisucks would be retained and a link to the boing boing article by Jardin, where there is a link to xenisucks. There were two extreme positions: 1) that all the "anti" Jardin stuff should be in with links and quotes etc. 2) none of it should be in. Both sides have given ground to achieve a working solution.

Jimmy Wales commented specifically on this case to answer a question on it:


 * Is a "(Xeni)sucks.com" blog a notable or reliable source?


 * Usually not. In a case like this, some mention would seem to be in order since the site was mentioned in the New York Times, but the actual reference in this case is the New York Times itself, not the blog. Merely being mentioned in the New York Times does not license them to insert whatever random lunacy they may choose to print in their blog, into wikipedia as "critics say..."

This is the basis of my proposition which was agreed in the consensus, as I believe it would be the one upheld by any wider involvement in the matter.

However, the important thing is to add to article content, which still isn't happening in a big way. Tyrenius 03:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Acme file system?
Hola. Noticed that you reverted my removal of a category from Acme- I had thought that that referred simply to wikifs- but I guess not? I didn't notice anything to the contrary in the article, so maybe you could expand on it? --maru  (talk)  contribs 03:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC) cpu% ns |grep acme|grep mount mount '#|/data' /mnt/acme 1 cpu% cd /mnt/acme/ cpu% ls 1 2 acme cons consctl draw editout index label new cpu%


 * For details see acme(4). --Lost Goblin 12:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Ken Thompson
The reason the Ken Thompson article was moved should be obvious: so as to avoid confusion with the other notable people with that name. DS 17:00, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
 * That is not obvious in any way. Please see the talk page for the original page. --Lost Goblin 01:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Plan 9 and Ogg?
Hi. I noticed you are a Plan 9 user. I'm wondering if you people can use, or rather, play Ogg formats like Vorbis, Theora and FLAC. I'm a volunteer at Xiph.Org, and thus my curiosity.

Be kind enough to reply on my talk page, please. And thank you.-- Saoshyant talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 15:46, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reply. However, cnielsen ported only libraries and an encoder, which makes it hard for me to know what I should write on Media help (Ogg).  I intended to create a Plan 9 section there, but the lack of info on Plan 9 tools, as well as my total inexperience with it isn't helping.  Do you know if any audio program is using the ported libraries?  Better yet, do you use any audio player under Plan 9?  If you do, do you know if it can play Vorbis, FLAC, etc?-- Saoshyant  talk / contribs (I don't like Wikipedophiles) 14:36, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

List of agnostics
Please cite a source for Milton Friedman's describing himself as an agnostic. I'm not saying he isn't, I'm saying that in order to ensure accuracy we require a source. Dpbsmith (talk) 13:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure, there is this: http://www.theamericanview.com/index.php?id=736 and he friedman mentions it in at least a couple of the interviews linked to in Milton Friedman (I would need to look thru them to find exactly where). And IIRC it is also mentioned at some point in Free to Choose. Is that enough? --Lost Goblin 15:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Milton Friedman changes
22nd May, 2007 Lost Goblin, You deleted a paragraph I put in today saying that I had deleted something and had no reference. I did not delete anything but only added a paragraph (witrhout reference). The paragraph will be put back with reference. OK?
 * Look at the changelog, I both reverted your new paragraph and some random deletions someone else did. --Uriel 03:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)

Template:Nobel Prize in Economics Laureates*
I noticed that you reverted some changes to the templates for the Nobel Prize in Economics Laureates* with the explanation "Be consistent". So I was just wondering what you meant. What are we being consistent with? –panda 00:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I meant be consistent with the title of the linked article, and with the main Nobel Prize in Economics Laureates template. --Uriel 22:45, 13 October 2007 (UTC)


 * So if I change the name of the prize in all of the templates to the official name of the prize, do you plan to revert that? It's consistent.  The name of the linked article is based on a naming policy, but that policy doesn't apply to the content of articles so there's no reason to use the title of an article for the content in the templates. –panda 22:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Please see Template talk:Nobel Prize in Economics. –panda 21:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

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