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December 2008
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Hollyoaks characters
Hi. In the Hollyoaks template (Hollyoaks), please avoid introducing characters that haven't been introduced into the show yet. For example, Cheryl, who doesn't arrive until May. Also, the list is ordered by surname, so for characters that don't have a surname, please just list them in the main list by order of their first name. See my edit for a better explanation of what I mean. [ジャム] [ t -  c  ] 09:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Question
I would like to know whether the beast was hurt by Jack's gunshot. Please reply on my talk page. -- Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 00:34, 10 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Firing the missile at "the beast" will cause the "456" will accend on the earth like the darleks did and attack earth directly. What species is the 456 and what you think they need the children for?  I think the doctor should show up sometime!  I wonder why the Torchwood guys appear in Doctor Who but not vice versa.  Furthermore, why are these things are happening only happening in the Uk but not in America or China?  -- Tyw7  (Talk • Contributions) 01:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I would also like to know whether Jack "dies" because he contract the virus from Ianto when he kisses him? BTW, is Jack and Ianto gay?-- Tyw7 (Talk • Contributions) 11:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Talk:John Paul McQueen and Craig Dean
Hello, Whoniverse93. Would you mind weighing in on this discussion? Flyer22 (talk) 01:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Also, in regards to your other editing, I want to point out that removing the country that the show, character or couple is from is wrong formatting. It should state "British" right there in the lead beside "Channel 4 soap opera," etc. And, in the lead (intro), there should not be a comma when, for example, the line is "British soap opera character [so and so]." A comma should not be after the word character in that instance. Flyer22 (talk) 01:56, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I replied at my talk page and the article's. Flyer22 (talk) 01:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I am not getting your reasons for agreeing that this article should be deleted, but I have stated my objections to its deletion in the deletion debate. Flyer22 (talk) 13:36, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Grace Hutchinson
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I have gone ahead and fixed your edits relating to Grace Hutchinson, so you don't have to worry about it there. If you have any questions feel free to reply here or on my talk page. Thank you, ThaddeusB (talk) 01:17, 28 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay thanks!  Who niverse 93  talk?  01:18, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Editing
OMG; sorry!

LovesHollyoaksxoxo


 * That's alright.  Who niverse 93  talk?  14:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

I need to get on my soapbox. But why were you saying that Craig & John Paul were engaged but broke up but are now boyfriends? They were NEVER engaged! & sorry I just like to edit!

LovesHollyoaksxoxo

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Re: Images
Looks good. Feel free to remove the big red "no source" tags. (ESkog)(Talk) 15:30, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Okay, no problems.  Who niverse 93  talk?  15:31, 6 August 2009 (UTC)


 * None of the images have fair-use rationales and will probably end up being deleted if one isn't added. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 00:34, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Hannah Ashworth
You can't be serious. The image you uploaded, it's not even Hannah. It's Emma Rigby. What was wrong with the image of Hannah Ashworth? That actually had the right image tags. All your images end up deleted anyway, so this was basically vandalism advertising a fansite called 'Hollyoaksbabes.net' so it cannot be a screenshot of a TV programme. Your other edits to the article were not helpful either.Raintheone (talk) 00:03, 7 August 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm all for improving the character pages. I have no fault with any of the other changes you made, only the image. The image that was already present was actually fine. Basically the character doesn't have to look like she is on a photo shoot to be a good image. Seeings as the image was recent, had all the tags with it, I'd say it was okay. Your image is taken from a website and still has the website url on the image. So there it's void. End of. As for the rest of your edits to soap opera character related articles, fantastic. Your doing great on making the Hollyoaks pages better. To be honest most people just add storyline recaps and crap like that which basically has no place because it just isn't notable. Good to see that you are aspiring to make the pages like Eastender's character pages, who have a good dedicated team already ensuring they are tidy, up to date and so on. It was just the image.Raintheone (talk) 16:24, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Rollback
I have granted rollback rights to your account; the reason for this is that after a review of some of your contributions, I believe I can trust you to use rollback correctly by using it for its intended usage of reverting vandalism, and that you will not abuse it by reverting good-faith edits or to revert-war. For information on rollback, see New admin school/Rollback and Rollback feature. If you do not want rollback, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Good luck and thanks. – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you :)  Who niverse 93  talk?  00:44, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Hollyoaks Characters
Hello after our recent resolved problem we had I thought I'd ask you your opinions on a few matters. All the hollyoaks character pages are just pointless storyline archives like I previously said, with you and me being two of a very small amount of members that make notable edits to these articles, do you think Hollyoaks should have it's own wikiproject? We can then gather the editors that do these massive storyline edits and help them make only edits that have reason to them. A massive clean up is in order as I'm sure you know, one of the problems is coming from the main page, which is crap basically. It needs a read like Eastenders tbh. Character articles one day will need to read like Pauline Fowler.. . Any ideas how we could do that, assuming your interested. =) Raintheone (talk) 13:10, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Great. I don't suppose you would know how to go about it would you? Could get it done now if I knew how. Lol Raintheone (talk) 14:40, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I joined it and now we need to find more. I've also done a massive edit on Nancy Hayton explaining all the storylines in the out of universe style regarding fictional characters, added the development and creation, reception. Took a while too. Do you think that is what they all need to be like atm? Raintheone (talk) 18:44, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't want to get into a edit war but on Coronation Street articles etc we say 'portrayed by'. :P Also the episode airing part is there to distinguish what she appeared on. She may have appeared online... or in a book... Can you take a go at Tony Hutchinson? Now theres a challenge.Raintheone (talk) 21:12, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

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Hollyoaks
You've uploaded some images such as the one of Clare Devine which is tagged again. It really needs taking of, the tag that is. Oh and when your editing character development sections, original research such as in the article Tony Hutchinson is okay, because were viewers and we know that's how he acts and what he is like, but a new reader would not and with there being no references cited it could be challenged to be removed if it remains uncited/unverifiable. The character articles on a whole are generally looking better, plenty more condensing of the storylines is needed on many but we'll get thatc sorted. Oh and the project, hows that going?Raintheone (talk) 20:11, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

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Romances field in character infobox and your Hollyoaks character infobox
Why do you keep removing the Romances field from the John Paul McQueen and Craig Dean character infoboxes whenever IPs and maybe even registered editors add them back? Yes, Template: Infobox soap character does have a Romances field. Flyer22 (talk) 22:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I also do not mean to sound harsh, but the infobox you are designing (Template:Infobox Hollyoaks character), with all those family fields, is a bad idea. Why create all those fields...but reject a Romances field? Flyer22 (talk) 23:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Sarah Barnes
If Sarah has "come out" as a lesbian, she should be classified as one. I have not watched where she "comes out" yet, but I just looked at one of the older versions of this article, where the lead used to state this and where you reverted someone who placed her in the lesbian category. Her having been with men romantically/sexually does not necessarily mean that she is "bisexual" (as the Bisexuality article notes) and that she is not a lesbian or should not be classified as a lesbian.

I will mainly leave the Hollyoaks articles to you, because I do not currently have the time to clean a lot of them up and am not as familiar with the history of this show as you are. But when I see something within any of them that needs correcting, I will seek to have whatever it is corrected. Flyer22 (talk) 23:26, 10 September 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm saying this late, but I course replied on my talk page about these recent two sections here. Flyer22 (talk) 01:30, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Thankyou
I did not expect one back. We have both been working hard on the articles, but you more so. As you know I tend to work on Coronation Street articles the most. But Hollyoaks are a big plan for my editing in the future. Just latley though you have made amazing edits to them. You made good edits ad mostly in re-creating Leila, Ravi and Anita's article pages. They are a agood read and hold notability. The images are great now too! I don't know where you are finding these good quality images from. =) Raintheone (talk) 23:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

The students
So I'm going to make the three new students articles when there is enough stuff about. Suprisingly there is though. I've made Charlotte Lau, just thought I'd mention it. You have hger on your userpage as a redirect. Dave will be easy because his character was a focal point of a government funded spin off to raise the awareness of binge drinking. With India there must be plenty of stuff because of the open audtioning they held. I'll do Hayley to if you like. I noticed you are going to rewrite Nancy Hayton though, what's wrong with that?Raintheone (talk) 16:23, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Not that important, just curious
Why did you revert the Dr Who page and tag as vandalism the edits made by User:Ccacsmss. It looked good faith to me, but... I am learning which I why I am curious as to the vandalism tag. thanks --Alchemist Jack (talk) 01:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Hollyoaks
Oh god I'm crap at spoting mistakes. I can write the article, but damn I can't always use grammar! Glad you watch what I'm doing. Lol... I was just about to do more of the students but Hollyoaks have deleted Load and Go which had a tonne of information on Dave and India! So I just thought, lets do Loretta. Oh and Hayley's article will be completed by tonight also.Raintheone (talk) 22:15, 21 October 2009 (UTC)


 * I've already created Cheryl's page though along with Hayley's. Don't know if you like it though. And yeah... Dave and India are going to be hard to do now. Raintheone (talk) 20:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
 * She comes back in a few weeks time for good.Raintheone (talk) 20:29, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I like Dave and India's pages! Were totally ploughing through these now. Some hard jobs ahead with condensing storylines down for the likes of Jacqui McQueen, Darren Osbourne and the like. Are we the only doing this within the project btw?Raintheone (talk) 00:12, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * The wikiproject for HO. Not spoken to anyone else so can't see what they are doing to help out.. also for male images, youtube videos of episodes are usually good, screen shot one, sometime there are good quality vidoes that offer a HQ shot of their face. dont you have msn or something? Raintheone (talk) 00:25, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Well here is mine .. i'll be able to send ya a screen shot or somethin of whatever ya need then. TBH wiki needs to think a of quicker way to chat on here. lol Raintheone (talk) 00:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah I suppose that's right. Added me yet? Raintheone (talk) 00:51, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

Character names
I've just been editing more info in on Zak's page.... Zachary Timothy "Zak" Ramsey <--- how annoying are full names no one uses, and middle names included.. are they needed, why can't there be a born thing in the info box. Also should it be Zachary Timothy "Zak" Ramsey(nee Zak Barnes) ... (born Zak Barnes) ... (previously Zak Barnes) ... How do you include his old name in that? Raintheone (talk) 23:14, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

hey mind ur own business!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianwazere (talk • contribs) 23:40, 15 November 2009 (UTC)

Lol thanks for warning that Brianwozere guy, didn't even notice until just that he had 'warned' me to watch my mouth, I guess I'd best watch myself :D && Thanks for the info on the Zak thing, I'll just leave it... I'm finding a lot more images if you haven't noticed and good work on the Gaz article. Ricky or Sheila maybe next? lol Raintheone (talk) 17:20, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

Hey
Good that your back online. My bad grammar was going unnoticed! Here has a little info on how he manages to portray his character, would do for the casting or personality section.... for gaz.. Raintheone (talk) 03:51, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

December 2009
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what was wrong with the edit —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.47.180 (talk) 23:08, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I assume you are talking about | this edit?. Well, it was clear vandalism, and irrelevant to the article, so I removed it. Whoniverse93 (talk) 23:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)


 * ohh I think i was drunk XD sorry about that ^^ it wont happen agian —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.47.180 (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Tan & Tumble
Tan and Tumble no longer exsits its now Cincerity which has been shown in the past two episodes.

Littlebecky (talk) 19:44, 18 January 2010 (UTC)


 * In today's episode, it was yet unnamed. Until it changes, please leave it. Besides, removing all that content is not necessary either. Whoniverse93 (talk) 19:47, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've now changed it back :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 19:55, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

Zoe Carpenter - Mass of Refs for you, HOW NOTABLE!!
I noticed youy put the nomination in. It's evident you put a lot of hard work into the article. More references..?? well.. I won't edit it as I might review it (if i figure it out lol). Plus I iknow that article is your baby so I'll let you do it all... I spent over an hour researching you these so please use some. :P :P (If you don't have enough time I suppose I'd try add them in, but I don't wabnt to change the tone of the article now it's nommed, it needs to read good and you're better with the gramar!! haha)

So for Reception you could include some parts. In Maxim mag (online too) Lister did a photoshoot and interview Here They asked questions like "In Hollyoaks you’re a bit of a tomboy. Are you in real life?" and "Your character is pretty popular with the boys but doesn’t often pull. How do you fare in real life?" also So with that you could put 'Maxim magazine states that the character is really popular with male viewers and dresses like a bit of a tomboy' ....

Zoe lister on lesbian scenes with Loui batley Here

Here is a good one, before the lesbian thing with Sarah Lister actually asked bosses to cook her a lesbian storyline up ..here and coverage of her wish being granted... here is the ref... now thats quite a find!! lol

Here is an interview with Sky TV about her exit, skydive storyline, what it was like to film. If you don't find any new info in it, it could be used as a secondary reference, the more the better aye. :)

Here is an interview with the liverpool echo discussing the sky dive, how it was filming the stint in prison (how they made the set, what she had to do during filming etc) ... if your interested in the actress there is a bit on here too.... will do for development...

Here is a great one for personality and identity - "I think she's been in and out of so many relationships and her life is at a bit of a juncture; she probably needs to sort her head out, sort her career, knuckle down really and not get bogged down into a relationship because everything takes a backseat when you're in one." --- thisisbristol link found here

Heat magazine interview about the trial here

Personality and identity can be drawn out from this cool interview Here, just like Loretta she is not a blonde stereotype... Zoë, do you have to fight against the blonde stereotype image? I haven’t faced any problems yet. Maybe when and if I leave the show, people might go: ‘Oh, you’re just another blonde from Hollyoaks,’ and I might have to prove my worth then, but I’m definitely not a dizzy blonde, and neither is my character anyway – she’s quite a tomboy and street-smart.

Now here's a bit of out of universe style inclusion... When Lydia stabbed Zoe in the weeks before there was a big secret around the 'will she or won't she die' .. but in this article from Myparkmag.. they actually let the cat out of the bag by revealing she would not die Here ... second link from STV here

video of lister on E4.

Video interview with AOL

Lister states that her favourite storyline is the stalker Will storyline speaking with five.tv here ... she jokes about the storyline in 2008 here

Tony hirst says the conterversy of dating younger woman zoe has died down... here he also talks about fiklming scenes in the bedroom with her which could do for development

Matalan music show profile

lister praises parachute jump episode here at STV.

have no audio on comp sometimes so dont know what they say in this. with digitalspy here

episode guide for the jess and zoe fued .. here

Your GA nomination of Zoe Carpenter
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Are you making the changes to the article then Whoniverse??? Come on we need it to be the first good article. :P  RAIN the ONE  (Talk) 23:39, 21 February 2010 (UTC)


 * LOL sorry. Wrong time to take a break from Wikipedia I suppose. I'll get on it asap. :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 14:08, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Did you notice I did what was needed. It got Ga Status... You still working on the articles?  RAIN the ONE  (Talk) 18:52, 12 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you so much, I'm sorry I wasn't here to make changes but at least it's now a GA. Unfortunately, my semi-wikibreak seems to have turned into a more permanent one because of things in my private life. I will be back one day. Keep up the good work :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 03:32, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

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Woaahh
Are you back then? You still watch Hollyoaks? When I edit wiki since, I've kinda gone on a Neighbours and Hollyoaks spree.. made a few GA's aswell. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 20:39, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I am. Hopefully for good too. It's taking me time to get used to editing again haha! Yeah I noticed, some great work has been done to articles. Well done. :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 21:12, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Well that's Good. Well latley I've become more Hollyoaks focused as it was just me editing HO for a while, and I went Neighbours crazy with the editing.. but now Acidbrights and Ohh Fruity are big editors.. a project we started which would be great to get your help is a history section for Hollyoaks, it sounded hard at first, but we cracked on with it... only done the basic castings and a few other things as of yet but there is loads to be added. Take a look History of Hollyoaks.  RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 21:27, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Wow, that's a great article! I was considering making a history article before I took a Wikibreak to be honest, but I wasn't sure if Hollyoaks had enough history. Great work though! By the way, the Loretta Jones article is also brilliant. Anyone reading it would think she had been in the show for years. :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 21:37, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I just added more as it wasn't updated for a while. With Loretta.. you can tell she was on of my favourite characters... I even tried to go for Featured article but the images got in the way of that one... I even emailed different companies trying to get a free image.. but to of no avail... I noticed a edit to Carmel you made.. Calvin was still her husband, it should of remained with a bracketed date format of their duration of marriage... she also had a younger brother, from her father... the same with JP and Michaela... I dunno if her in-laws are stil the velntines, but in real world context they would be... (You may also notice that refs are tighter now, so with Digital Spy, that is the work field... and their publisher in brackets is Hachette Filipacchi UK.. :) RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 22:54, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Ahh it's a shame it couldn't have been featured, she was a great character. Oh, sorry. I just assumed someone was making up siblings for her, haha. I removed the in laws fields from the infobox because there are no fields as such. Thanks though, I'll revert the changes I made to the half-siblings. :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 23:04, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It's fine because I looked and Karen is a made up one!!! You have to watch that, their are various IP's who love making fake family members up... a very current one is that India, Texas have a mother named Gail.... Roise and Des keep getting Mr and Mrs Townsend added... random ones like that. I'm sure you will persue Cindy's article again? You made really good progress with that... RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Also I'm here on a spoiler mission... I think there should be loads of refs for a whole bunch of characters soon when the new gay storyline kicks off... Basically we know Ste and Brendan are going to get it on... but Rae, Veronica and Eileen are heavily involved... It's great though that Rae is getting some good storylines at last, I'm also glad Veronica is carrying on in the show for a bit, I hope she gets promoted to regular... I was always sad Sheila Buxton was never kept on... so hopefully they listen to the fans this time. lol Who do you reckon will die in the fire?? RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:33, 24 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I always make sure when I'm watching the episodes, I listen out for any mentions of other family members, just incase anyone adds members to the article... Yeah, I'm going to try to get Cindy to a GA. :) I need to try and find an image of the original Cindy though. And yeah, I can't wait for this storyline. I loved Veronica, so I'm glad she's going to be in it more. :D as for Sheila, that was a shame, she was a good character tbh. She had potential. :/ Looking at who are leaving, I think Dom and Elliot will be killed in the fire. :) maybe Jem also, but her departure was never confirmed, the source just says she stops filming in September, they might have extended her contract, I think now she has a family there's more point to her character. Whoniverse93 (talk) 23:41, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I think Cindy would be a good choice to try and get GA with. :) Oh, with Clare's image. Images we uploaded last year have been getting deleted because the fair use rationale was not strong enough.. so Loretta Jones, Mitzeee Minniver and Jasmine Costello are examples, their images hold the latest rationale that's more detailed.. only just though... also the name of the image used for clare is all over the place, they usually get called after the character, short and simple. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 17:13, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Sorry, I forgot to change the name of the image when I uploaded it lmao. I'm not sure how to change it, unless I delete it and re-upload it... As for getting Cindy a GA, I think it's possible. I added quotes earlier, sorry about forgetting the publisher btw. I'm going to try to find more information about her. :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 17:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, so with the infoboxes for HO, we've changed them. They all have classification now, they follow the same trend as EE, Neighbours, Home and Away and Corrie. (You'll notice Corrie just adopted another colour..) I think everyone wanted consistancy or something. So if you see olders ones not brought up to date, can you change them? RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:25, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

The list of minor characters 2010 are subject to review, I have reviewing rights. It's the second time youer edit has popped into my pending reviews in a major way.. it's because you have removed Molly and Laura again... Why is that?  RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 12:53, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The characters were only in the show for a few episodes. Are they really notable enough to be given their own sections? In my opinion, it wastes space and leaves a blank part on the page because of the infobox. I probably should have asked about this yesterday when you reverted an edit that removed them. I also noticed that Barry the dog had his own section, but someone else has removed that now I think. Whoniverse93  (talk)  12:59, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I suppose so, but Blanche .. mainly Doug have too... but there is more out there in refs for Doug... I'm actually so sick of this page, I wish it would disappear. I've tried so many times, had it protected, had it placed on the pending review page... With Molly, the ref is missing, it's from castingcall pro, it's just one simple ref... but it's been removed.. not by you, but it's so sneaky these IP edits.. Adding fake names in all the time, plus you wouldn't believe the war I had to fight to prove Bart was not Myra's nephew... so in the end i gave in. Barry's been removed because he is not prmoinent? Yet he was in episode the other week, been talked about this week, there is a ref saying he was gonna enter, there was a ref saying he had filmed for the titles... so leave Molly there but a ref should be added, laura can stay there.. but Barry's will need to be added back... I placed heading in for Kevin, but theyre gone, was going to transfer him out, but then he is leaving... It's not you're fault about the edit coming up in the the review like that, you were helping, I just thought you did away with them all together lol. So yeah, that and one million other things is why I'd love the thing to go away. :P RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 13:11, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that's true I suppose. I added more information at the top too, just introducing the article more. Gosh, Wikipedia can become so confusing at times. When it comes to fake family members, I just don't know whether to believe some of them anymore. When I updated the McQueen family tree image, I wasn't sure whether to add Bart's mother 'Sarah McQueen' to it, as she had only been mentioned in the McQueen article... I wish the Hollyoaks website had all this information so we didn't have so much bother! LOL. Whoniverse93  (talk)  13:21, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Sarah was made up by a crazy IP .. I kept removing it from every McQueen article, must have missed that.... also another thing, any point of talking about the characters in articles, it has to be put into present tense, and any talk of the actor goes into past. That's a big problem atm with the hollyoaks articles because we used to write them largley in past tense when it came to storylines. Tedious tasks. But good work on expanding the lead, I need to do that for History of HO too. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 13:26, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll make sure I remember. Thanks btw. :) Whoniverse93  (talk)  13:30, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * See with Sinead, you have stacked refs... also, three are singled to the lead, which means something has been said that hasn't in the article it's self. No refs are needed in Leads of articles, because they are meant to reflect verified content elsewhere in the article. (I had a hard time getting my head around it myself while you were gone...) The refs you stacked, are they saying the same thing? If it gets noticed the most reliable remains and the others get removed... So when I want to add plenty of refs, I say it in small parts, add a refs .. then add another part of the same story and add the next ref... (Not sure if you get me on this one or not. :P )I'll format the refs btw.. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 00:19, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I added other refs incase the original was deleted or something, but yeah, I understand haha. :) I feel like a beginner again because of my break LOL. Whoniverse93  (talk)  00:25, 30 September 2010 (UTC)


 * It's cool, I'm sure there will be more casting info as she gets going. I know right, all these new tweaks to things as pointless as making the refs look neat... tedious much. lol RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 00:30, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

HOLA!
Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself, as I've seen your work on Hollyoaks articles and its brilliant, I've been heavily editing all HO article for months now, and I'm really enjoying it! WOO! It's good to have you back on board! --AcidBrights (talk) 07:25, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey, thanks! I've noticed some of your work and I'm glad that there are more serious editors working on Hollyoaks articles now. :) Whoniverse93 (talk) 10:54, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

My little baby at the minute is Gabby Sharpe I created it and im nurturing it, I love it! :) It's great to have you back btw, oh and I was wondering if we should combine forces on a Hollyoaks Later series 3 article?--AcidBrights (talk) 16:07, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Great article at the moment, especially for a character who has only been in it for three months. Yeah, that's a good idea. :) I worked on the series 1 and 2 articles, but hopefully there will be more media attention to the third series. I'm also hoping more info. is released soon so we can get started on the article. Whoniverse93 (talk) 16:15, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Hollyoaks
Heyy, thought I'd start a new discussion. I noticed someone Added Tom Hughes as upcoming. Can you keep an eye out for a ref for him. It was true, but their is no ref yet. I knew of Drew Dillon, Tom Hughes and Chris Overton all joining the cast as different characters... but only found one for Drew Dillon before the waveguide spoilers mentioned him. (Btw I think the latter are likley to appear in Later, also one of them is on the 2010 HO calender as february.....) RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 20:52, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Where did you hear about them btw? I'll make sure I keep an eye out for refs anyway. I did wonder who the guy in the Hollyoaks calendar was lmao :P Thanks for letting me know! :) Whoniverse93  (talk)  21:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's totally unreliable.. but not at the same time.. Twitter lol Because you know the currecnt cast are on twitter, well those with official accounts atleast.. they generally let the cat out the bag by talking to them... then you go on their twitter... and you see they have been talking about filming for the past few months blah blah.. You can only use twitter though if they hold the blue tick.. Gerard McCarthy is like one of the only ones to verify themselves. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 21:08, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Haha, I did remember finding out about Drew Dillon from Twitter too actually, as well as Sarah Jayne Dunn (Mandy) confirming she is filming a few episodes for Hollyoaks again! :D Someone added that as a ref to Mandy's article but I changed it because obviously it has to be confirmed. As annoying as that is lol. Whoniverse93  (talk)  21:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I know yeah and with Dunn's twitter not verified (Even though eagle eyed veiwers like ourselves know it's really her..) we cannot add it. I found a ref for the Chris guy, he's playing Liam... RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 21:27, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Good work on Brendan and Mandy. Brendan's is ace, he'll create lotsa publicity for HO I think. Even if he is a greasey-weedy looking thing. I started work on Steph, it was a right mess, and Jessica Harris' article... RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 15:28, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'm glad there's more publicity with a lot of the more recent characters because most of the older ones really need sources, but it's proving impossible to find them. :| I'm hoping there will be more interviews etc. with Carley around the time of Steph's exit. I think it's possible to get it to GA. :) Whoniverse93  (talk)  15:33, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I know and let's face it, if Digitalspy wasn't around, we wouldn't have any articles. lol RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 15:38, 9 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Haha that's true. :) Whoniverse93  (talk)  15:49, 9 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh a name change. Good job I noticed the move log, would have gotten confused! (I didn't even know you could change names lol) RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 22:11, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I hated my last one :') I was going to tell you haha, just to avoid confusion. Either did I, until I saw someone else changing names. Bad thing is, I don't have any contributions. :( and I'm not sure if it will change or not. LOL. LostHavoc  :)  22:14, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Macca is related to Brendan because he is still married to Eileen. Makes him a nephew to Brendan. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 22:41, 11 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I only reverted that because we've never done this to any other article. For example, listing Calvin Valentine as Max McQueen's uncle. Should it not just be kept to blood relatives? (Not including adoptive relatives, for example). LostHavoc  (talk)  22:50, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Well he was that child's uncle yeah... through marriage.. i didn't even think of that one. We normally include adoptive and marriage links, when thought of. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:45, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, something of interest and don't know if you had noticed Here is a talk of the infobox being merged... needs opinions... there is also one for Family Affairs... RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 23:52, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Infobox Hollyoaks character
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Amy Barnes
Hi. You said I need a source for my edit on Amy - well to be honest it needed to be edited because it hadn't been since March and it's now October! I thought I was doing it a favour. Well anyway which bit do you want a source for? I can get them easily for any of the bits. Plus, i'm new to this area and have just began using this IP address and when i look at the IP address messages theres loaddddssss of complaints and I just want to say that wasn't me because I've just moved here! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.180 (talk) 15:41, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Your other edits were fine, but you added a section about her departure with complete speculation. If you have a source for it, then that's fair enough, but the reason I removed it was because it was unsourced and it hasn't happened onscreen yet. There is already a source for her departure also. Whoniverse93  (talk)  15:46, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Okay thank you, it was the other edits apart from the departure I was most worried about because I felt good for updating it since it hadn't been done in months. Okay I have now put up the departure section again with a reference and hopefully that will be ok. If it's not, then that's ok, no problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.154 (talk) 16:02, 10 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Amy's departure is already mentioned in the article, it doesn't need its own section. I reverted your edits again because again you're speculating whether she will die. Also, the ref is in the above article and does not need to be added again. Whoniverse93  (talk)  16:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)

Hey
I started a new discussion on the minor character of hollyoaks 2010 talk page. Also I was wondering, can you get an image of Hollyoaks' new title card? On the E4 episode it has changed to black, red and silver. RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 15:26, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I've replied. :) Oh, I never noticed that while watching the other day. But I'll get an image asap. Thank God they've ditched the bright pink! LOL. LostHavoc  (talk)  15:39, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh they haven't changed the title card as such have they... just the ad breaks, todays E4 featured the Union Jack background that Rhys has in the credits. Loved the final scene at the end, with Mitzee, Duncan and the crisps! lol RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 18:32, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I noticed. :) Haha same, I love Mitzeee xD LostHavoc  (talk)  18:48, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Hollyoaks locations
Wtf? You made a mess of the Hollyoaks Locations page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.154 (talk) 22:14, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * I simply cleared it up, removing irrelevant information. How have I made a mess of it? LostHavoc  (talk)  22:19, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Irrelevant? How, Mercedes and Carmel were not always a resident of that house, and that needs to be noted so people can know the full truth! You say not to add the dates like that - why? Look at Ste's, it shows he moved out during 2009 and you have no problem with that. Plus, was it you who added in a heap of previous employees? Who really wants a big list at the end, they just want current! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.154 (talk) 22:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Because it is ridiculous to continually add dates like that. A character can move in and out of a house several times in the space of a few years, but the point of the duration should be from when they first lived there - not every time they have changed homes. It's like with characters for example. If an actor leaves at the start of the year but returns later on in the same year, we don't add the duration as 2009–2010, 2010— because it should sum up the full duration for the character. If you disagree, please don't keep adding it in, or you might be blocked due to edit warring. Simply create a new section on the location talk page, or WikiProject talk page. As for the previous employees, I only added notable ones. Why is that a problem? LostHavoc  (talk)  22:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

It's not ridiculous, what about Ste then, whose dates were done not by me but yet still up? Carmel was a part of the Valentine household for a good part of a year, doesn't that deserve to be noted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.157.1.154 (talk) 22:37, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

And I wouldn't say it's ridiculous, it's informative. People deserve to know the full facts. I'm a normal visitor to these pages like anyone else, and I felt mad how Ste's move out was noted but none of the Ms Queen's or Cheryl's were. it's unbalanced and I thought it needed to be fixed.149.157.1.154 (talk) 22:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Check WP:DATE. Cheryl's says '2009-2010, 2010-', when did she move out exactly? She did not leave for very long. Same with Mercedes. I can understand your point when it comes to Carmel. Ste's section is the way it is because he moved out permanently for over a year, as did Amy, Leah and Lucas. It also mentions in the paragraphs of each residence that Carmel, for example, moved out and moved in with Calvin. So in that way, it is not relevant to change the date. LostHavoc  (talk)  22:46, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

To be fair IP user, the whole page was a mess, it still is. It lacks any references apart from two. It would only interest a fan and has no encyclopedic value. I have wanted to rid of the lot, which we should really because it's all unsourced nonsense atm. I'd suggest that if you feel strong enough about.. go and transform the page, help us out a little. After all, right now there are only 4 editors really giving their all to improve.... so we need more help. AS for people needing to know the full facts, why would anyone other than a fan be interested? WP:FAN isn't always promoted on Wikipedia though...  RAIN..the..ONE  HOTLINE 17:54, 18 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Agreed. Perhaps we could merge it into the locations section on the Hollyoaks article? If not, a large clean up is needed. I'm not sure it's relevant to note the dates of when characters have lived in a property, since it will continually change. The paragraph about houses should be kept in the briefest form. Which is what I tried doing, until this IP removed it. LostHavoc  (talk)  18:02, 18 October 2010 (UTC)