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Books and Bytes - Issue 13
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October 2015
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Jacob van Ruisdael
Dear Lotje, I noticed you changed the lead image on Jacob van Ruisdael. Modern art historians write that there is no known portrait of Jacob. See for instance Slive and Hoetink 1981, page 17. The image you found seems to come from a book from the 18th century, which modern art historians have dismissed as accurate. If you know anything else let me know, but for the time being I've change the image back. es: Edwininlondon (talk) 13:14, 11 October 2015 (UTC)  Cit
 * , strange, does this mean the image on the Dutch page is not correct? In all honesty, I wouldn't dare removing it over there Lotje (talk) 14:09, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * , is this image better in your opinion? Lotje (talk) 14:15, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Well, not according to modern day experts. Seymour Slive spent a few decades of his life studying Ruisdael, and says there is no image. It looks like this image and the one on the Dutch wikipage are from a 1926 book of pictures published by a coffee company: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Cover,_Vaderlandsche_Historie,_Zuid-Hollandsche_Koffie-_en_Theehandel_Rotterdam.jpg I am happy to change the Dutch wiki page with this extra information. Edwininlondon (talk) 14:45, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
 * As an aside, there might be a copyright issue with this image in the US, as it's published after 1923. So even if we discover a marketing person at a coffee company knows better than various art experts, we couldn't use the image in the English version. I do agree with you by the way that a portrait would be a better image than a painting, but in this case there just doesn't seem to be one. Edwininlondon (talk) 17:23, 11 October 2015 (UTC)

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Moths
Hi Lotje, the moth is labelled as a death's head hawkmoth, and has the characteristic death's head, indeed. But it also has a wing pattern more like Saturnia than anything else. Do you have a source saying that van Gogh actually based it on both moths? If so, we can certainly say so and put it in both articles... your confused editorial colleague, Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:19, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, if I find a source, I will surely put it in both articles, maybe it is just what we call "freedom of the artist"? It surely is intriguing. Maybe someone on the Dutch wikipedia will be able to be of help.  Lotje (talk) 15:27, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Someone else has already put the image back! I googled about a bit more, and having already found the Dutch page from the Van Gogh Museum, I found that its English page calls it the Giant Peacock Moth, i.e. 'pavonia'. So there we are, it's official. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:32, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Gosh, you're like speedy Gonzales ! Awesome. Lotje (talk) 15:35, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
 * Information added to the discussion on File talk:Van Gogh - Totenkopfschwärmer auf Aronstab.jpeg. Cheers. Snjón (talk) 15:43, 19 October 2015 (UTC)

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