User talk:Loufreyinstitute

April 2013
Welcome to Wikipedia. Because we have a policy against usernames that give the impression that the account represents a group, organization or website, I have blocked this account; please take a moment to create a new account with a username that represents only yourself as an individual and which complies with our username policy. You should also read our conflict of interest guideline and be aware that promotional editing is not acceptable regardless of the username you choose. If your username does not represent a group, organization or website, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. You may simply create a new account, but you may prefer instead to change your username to one that complies with our username policy, so that your past contributions are associated with your new username. If you prefer to change your username rather than create a new account, you may appeal this username block by adding the text below this notice. Thank you. Beeblebrox (talk) 00:24, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

I Will be happy to set up a pointless account with a fake name instead of an accurate user name reflecting a company. That's ridiculous and Google use to do this but have it set to reverse it because it creates the response I'm doing. Wonder how many John Smith's are on her now because of this. Good job at enforcing this


 * The point is that accounts are intended to represent individuals not organizations. See WP:ORGNAME. You aren't exactly giving a great impression of your organization with this smarmy, trollish response. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:18, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

How do you delete an account so I can create a john smith account and make the needed changes under another account with the same email. I really don't want to create another team email to edit this page properly. Our development team works as a team and we want to make the wiki page accurate and sadly is it riddled with inaccuracies.

We make changes and decisions as a team not as an individual. All the information has to pass through several people. Meaning this is a group effort and should reflect that.


 * You may work as a team, but you will need to set up Wikipedia accounts as individuals. Your rules do not override Wikipedia's site policies. Creating an account is free, allows for customization in how you view and interact with Wikipedia, will allow team members to edit in other areas as well if they so desire, and it takes only a few minutes. We are not able to delete accounts, but as is indicated in the block notice this is what we call a "soft" block, meaning you are able to simply create a new account at any time, you just need to log out of this account to do so. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:27, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

That's one way to breed misinformation. I understand what you're saying but it is a poor model. When a team of people do work it isn't fair to have one person claim credit. And on the flip side my reputation could negatively effect the company based on my reputation as an individual. And I might not want my name attached to this company publicly. Either way it limits options and in response I'm going to create a fake name/persona to reflect the company instead of the team that actually made the changes resulting less trust in the information from visitors. I would trust the information more if I knew it was created and edited by the company and an individual. It just makes sense. But OH well, thanks for the feedback.


 * I'm sorry to hear you say that. I don't know what is so hard to grasp abou the concept that each member of your team could just have an account, it is not as if individual edits require multiple persons to enact. However, since you have stated quite clearly that you intend to ignore our policy on this matter I have upgraded the blocks on this account and on User:Loufrey ro "hard" blocks. You will now need to appeal these blocks before you are welcome to edit. Despite being run by volunteers, this is a privately run website, not a free-for-all with no rules. Any attempts to evade these blocks will be met with further blocking and/or page protection of the articles related to Mt. Frey and his institute. How to appeal a block is detailed in the original block notice at the top of the page. Beeblebrox (talk) 16:50, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

I am very aware of WIKIPEDIA's position an how it works. We operate under and are a department within the second largest University in the nation (UCF) with endless number of professors that contribute to this environment daily. Not to mention our financial contributions we provide to wikipedia every year. Lou was annoyed and tried to make the changes himself when he got blocked as well. Good job. I guess we'll just leave the information incorrect. Clearly you have no interest in making this information accurate. I'm including this conversation as well as the email Lou sent me into a report and see what actions we "as an institute" need to take.

Actually the username issue is secondary to your repeatedly stated intent to violate our policy on shared accounts. Do you still intend that the account be shared by a team? Beeblebrox (talk) 17:40, 29 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Think of it this way: Let's say you came in to work one morning and five geeks were re-arranging the furniture in your office, making calls on your phone, taking down the art on your walls and replacing it with posters, etc, and when you asked them what they were doing they said "we're from Wikipedia, and according to the way we do things anyone can make any changes they want." Would you not reply that Wikipedia's rules do not govern your office? Well, that works both ways. We don't allow shared accounts. That's a rule. While many rules here are flexible and can sometimes be ignored, the concept of one account=one person is not one of them. Beeblebrox (talk) 22:06, 29 April 2013 (UTC)