User talk:Louis P. Boog/sandbox/Jinn sandbox 4-20-2024

Ready for RfC?
@Louis P. Boog discussions at WP:RSN and WP:NORN notice boards are done. After taking those into account whether you have updated your intended highlighted changes in this sandbox and whether those are ready for taking to RfC? If so form and discuss neutral questions for the same. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 10:17, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @&#32;Bookku  . Do you see anything that I might logically add to  this sandbox that I might have missed? Otherwise I'm ready. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 22:12, 16 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Louis P. Boog
 * 1) Please help yourself in updating Publisher and Author brief as I did in First subsection below.
 * 2) As per feed back at WP:RSN (archive link) use Intercultural Press as publisher name (they being first publisher and RS instead of 'Hachette Livre' both at your sand box and also below RfC preparation.
 * 3) Check for accuracy of following thoroughly and update as necessary.
 * 4) Search and update any more Academic sources, if possible once again.
 * 5) @TheEagle107 do you have any more academic ref or additional text additions suggestions? or following is enough for you? &#32;Bookku   (talk) 11:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Louis P. Boog What I request you, is to fill in the blanks Publisher: and Author: for Ref2: and Ref3: ; below at User Proposed additions of text 2 regarding references for ".. preachers Abul A'la Maududi, and Fethullah Gülen .." Thanks &#32;Bookku   (talk) 07:24, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @talk Ref2: and Ref3? Do not see. --Louis P. Boog (talk) 21:54, 18 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Louis P. Boog
 * Proposed additions of text 2 → (First collapse is present sentence) → See second collapse is (Ref-list and Author brief for Proposed additions of text 2) → Ref1 Tobias Nünlist, is for Fakhr al-Din al-Razi → Ref2 and Ref 3 for Abul A'la Maududi, and Fethullah Gülen publisher and author details are kept empty, You know it better how to mention and which reference for Abul A'la Maududi, and Fethullah Gülen.
 * @talk I sorry I am still unclear. Do you want me to delete the author and publisher details? I don't see anything wrong with them as they are. --15:10, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * No no don't delete. As of now following format has not mentioned any supportive references for 'Abul A'la Maududi, and Fethullah Gülen'.
 * WP:NORN link is mentioned but it's too long to read for first time visiting RfC participating users. Mention of supportive refs or books for 'Abul A'la Maududi, and Fethullah Gülen' will be helpful, I suppose. &#32;Bookku    (talk) 16:16, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Let me know if you are not able to see collapse templates. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 01:53, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
 * I suppose you would have taken note at Talk:Jinn fyi: Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment, in case you missed the link &#32;Bookku    (talk) 16:05, 18 June 2024 (UTC)

Has this been taken note of?
@Louis P. Boog I was revisiting Talk:Jinn discussions up til now.

Can you crosscheck if you have taken note of VFF's 25th April's this reply and if you find any thing to take into consideration. &#32;Bookku   (talk) 09:11, 9 July 2024 (UTC)


 * @Bookku wrote a reply to his comments Louis P. Boog (talk) 02:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)

Primary preparation of RfC question

 * Proposed additions of all text as presently shown @ User:Louis P. Boog/sandbox/Jinn sandbox 4-20-2024:

Proposed additions of text 1

 * In section "Islam":

William Burns is a historian who lives in the Washington, D.C. metro area with interests in the early modern world and the history of science. ref: columbian.gwu.edu
 * Ref 1
 * Published by: Bloomsbury Publishing USA
 * Author brief: Mark A. Caudill is a 15-year U.S. Foreign Service officer who served in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, from 1999 to 2002. Currently he is Vice Consul, U.S. Consulate General, Istanbul, Turkey.
 * Ref 2
 * Published by:Bloomsbury Publishing USA
 * Author brief: William E. Burns . Visiting and Part-Time Faculty, Department of History, Columbian College of Arts & Sciences
 * Ref 3 Encyclopaedia of Islam
 * Ref 4
 * Publisher: Bloomsbury Publishing USA
 * Author brief: Richard Bonney :University of Leicester | LE · School of Historical Studies

Proposed additions of text 2
Belief in jinn is not included among the six articles of Islamic faith, as belief in angels is. Nontheless, many Muslim scholars, including the Hanbalī scholar ibn Taymiyya and the Ẓāhirī scholar ibn Hazm, believe they are essential to the Islamic faith, since they are mentioned in the Quran.
 * In section "Belief":


 * This above present sentence is supported in the article by Ref: Nünlist, Tobias. Dämonenglaube Im Islam. Germany, Walter De Gruyter Incorporated, p.33.
 * Tobias Nünlist is independent RS acceptable to both side referring to two scholars Hanbalī, ibn Taymiyya in above sentence. There is no disagreement up til here.


 * Proposed addition in above sentence A): "..the theologian Fakhr al-Din al-Razi,.."; Ref T. Nünlist (2015) Dämonenglaube im Islam
 * Proposed addition in above sentence B): "..and more recently revivalist preachers Abul A'la Maududi, and Fethullah Gülen.."
 * Inputs received from WP:NORN notice board: WP:NORN link'''


 * Ref1
 * Publisher:
 * Author:Tobias Nünlist, PD Dr. PD Islamic Studies and Temporary Teaching Fellow. Link opens at www.aoi.uzh.ch
 * Ref2:
 * Publisher:
 * Author:
 * Ref3:
 * Publisher:
 * Author:

Proposed additions of text 3

 * In section "Belief":


 * Inputs received from WP:RSN for one ref: WP:RSN archive link


 * Ref 1:
 * Encyclopaedia of Islam
 * Ref 2:
 * Publisher::Intercultural Press
 * Author: Mark Sedgwick
 * Ref 3:
 * Publisher: Oxford University Press
 * Author: Michael Cook (historian)
 * Ref 4:
 * Publisher: Oxford University Press
 * Author: Navid Kermani
 * Ref 5:
 * Publisher: Simon and Schuster
 * Caryle Murphy
 * Caryle Murphy

Proposed additions of text 4

 * In section "Prevalence of belief":


 * Ref 1
 * Publisher:Indiana University Press
 * Author: Naveeda Khan - Assistant Professor Anthropology, John Hopkins University (Contributing Author Introduction: Page 546)
 * Ref 2
 * Publisher:Leuven University Press
 * Author: Philip Hermans (Professor of anthropology at the IMMRC)

Proposed additions of text 5
&#32;Bookku   (talk) 07:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC)