User talk:Love-in-ark

FOF Draft Page
Dear Love-in-Ark, welcome to WP. I see that you are editing the FOF article. There is currently a draft article - please edit the draft if you intend to do more edits. Thanks, --Moon Rising 02:07, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the welcome, but I don't see the need of the draft. The page looks stable to me. Love-in-ark 05:02, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for your continued participation. The page has been fairly stable, but if you were to read the talk page and the archives, you would see that there has been a contentious past, which is why the draft was created, and why we are under mediation. Perhaps it is time to dispense with the draft and with mediation, but that needs to be a decision between the regular editors and our mediator, whose name is Vassyana. If you want to discuss this with him, you can go to his talk page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vassyana Until he advises otherwise, I'm going to continue to edit his draft, and I think it would be easier for everyone if we all edited the same version. BTW, here's the link to the draft: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vassyana/FoF/NPOV#Beliefs_and_practices. good luck!--Moon Rising 05:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

Unexplained deletions
You've deleted a sourced entry from List of groups referred to as cults twice without even giving an edit summary. There's an article talk page that is intended for discussions. Please tell the other editors why you're deleting the material. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 06:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

FOF editors
Dear Love, you posted a comment on the FOF talk page asking Aeuio to stay, because he is not a member or former member of the FOF and therefore not biased. Since you were not around earlier on, and have probably not read the archives thoroughly, I just wanted to let you know that he is most definitively biased. I can't quote him exactly, but he let it be known when he first joined the page that he thought poorly of the organization. This is not to say that his edits are not welcome. He is an experienced editor and has some good ideas. He may be more neutral than a member or former member, but still has his own bias. Also, I don't think it's reasonable to assume that all other editors are either current or former members.--Moon Rising 21:33, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Love, no offense was meant by my last post to you - the one that you deleted. I find you a valuable contributor. It's my understanding the user talk pages are the place for such comments, rather than the article talk pages, which are to focus on the article, rather than user styles. Any, my apologies if I offended you; it was not my intent. Keep up the good work!--Moon Rising 16:40, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Alex Horn's page
Hi CattleGirl, I noticed that the article about Alex Horn that I created yesterday was deleted very quickly (I guess that's why it's called "speedy deletion"...) and editors had no time to contribute to it. Is there a way to keep the page for, let's say, 24 hours or so before deletion to give the baby a chance to survive? By the way, Alex Horn was a controversial spiritual teacher and theater playwriter and there are lots of people that would like to know more about him. One of his students, Robert Burton, founded a religious organization with 2,000 members that has a article in Wikipedia Fellowship of Friends that is attracting a lot of attention (check the Talk page with 6 archives). If there is nothing you can do, it's OK. Thanks! Love-in-ark 18:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, how are you?
 * The reason I deleted the page was because a google search showed up none of the information in the page, besides the site that you referenced, so the reliability is in doubt if it is not backed up by more sources.
 * However, if you could find more sources and establish notability, and maybe focusing on a biography of Alex Horn rather than the Theatre of Possibilities, you could recreate the page. I hoped that helped you, if not, feel free to ask-  Cat tleG irl  talk 02:49, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Image:Ramtha.jpg
An image that you uploaded, Image:Ramtha.jpg, has been listed at because it is a suspected copyright violation. Please look there if you know that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), and then provide the necessary information there and on its page, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Yamla 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Copyright problems with Image:Bocelli.jpg
An image that you uploaded, Image:Bocelli.jpg, has been listed at because it is a suspected copyright violation. Please look there if you know that the image is legally usable on Wikipedia (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), and then provide the necessary information there and on its page, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Yamla 01:37, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Re: Fellowship of Friends
I fully endorse Yamla and Guy's actions. east. 718 at 21:27, 11/11/2007

Fellowship of Friends
Hey there.

I did spend some time a couple of months ago trying to give a hand in the mediation before I left it in User:Vassyana's capable hands. I'm a little hesitant to return to that particular fray itself, and step on toes, but if you point me at a particular point of contention I might be able to give you pointers or an opinion as the case may be. &mdash; Coren (talk) 00:21, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * It'll take me some time to catch up on even just the recent archives on the topic, but I'll see if I can give a hand. FWIW, however, I make no promises; the FoF article has always attracted a great deal of COI from both sides of the fence and every discussion related to it ends up being quite volatile.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 01:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid I believe Yamla to be correct. As things were, the article was mostly a battlefield where two camps were swinging barely verifiable assertions at each other trying to beat the other side into submission.  Reduction to a verifiable stub and protection seems like the only way to quiet things down. Given the insurmountable conflicts of interest of the current primary editors, the best thing to do would be to request the input of the community at large.  Sorry I could not be of more help.  &mdash; Coren (talk) 15:17, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Fellowship of Friends
You are mistaken. As far as I can tell, I've never edited the Fellowship of Friends article. I edited Talk:Fellowship of Friends once, 7 months ago, to indicate my displeasure related to what I felt was an inappropriate comment. I've not been involved in the dispute, and I hope you're not spamming every user who has ever made any change to either of these pages.  Leebo  T / C  14:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Talk Page
Thanks for the update. I honestly have nothing more to add to the article, and nothing to add to the discussion.

Next time, please put comments on my talkpage instead of my user page. Thanks again, --Kannie | talk 00:49, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

Trying to make headway with the Fellowship
For Love-in-Ark the imagery of the "Baraq" of the "Baraka" as a ship has much to do with the Door of Fatimah which is the "Bab" or "Gate of Heaven" that is known as the "Pearl of Great Price". The 3 Children of Fatimah and the Sun which came down as the "Baraka" of Muhammed on the people has to do with a Door being made now visable that will have Christians, Muslims and Jews come to this Gate to enter as entering the Ship of the Sufis which proceeds to a "new heaven and a new earth"; much as Noah did to a "new" earth seen in the Vine he planted in his Garden and the "new" heaven seen in the Rainbow or Everlasting Sign of the Covenant that God placed in the Cloud. I, of course, will attend to the Fellowship ASAP; I doubt they will listen to my comments; but with God nothing is impossible: including this. As the sufis say: "When Noah is the Captain, then what is there to fear?"Unicorn144 (talk) 14:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)