User talk:LowLevel73/Archives/2014/November

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm JDgeek1729. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Mxiwajg, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you. JDgeek1729 (talk) 03:32, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

J Terris
This page should not be speedily deleted because... it was originally deleted due to vandalism and attacks by a group of people via tumblr lying saying that he wrote it himself. I wanted to put it back up, as the original page (before it was deleted) has been there for many years without an issue until it was attacked by these young people who lied and had it deleted without cause. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insignope (talk • contribs) 04:25, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

First Unitarian Society of Minneapolis deletion
This page should not have been deleted because... The page referenced - http://www.psduua.org/heritage/bring/part2/2_mn_minneapolis1.html is from us as well. This is our denominational page. I work for First Unitarian Society of Minneapolis and both the wikipedia page and the psduua.org page come from our organization as our history. I'd be happy to reference the other page. Kevin jagoe (talk) 12:53, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Oracle Flow Builder
Oracle Flow Builder is a very new thing in market and I wanted people to gain knowledge on it, I am not sure why it was misunderstood that it was created for promotional purpose, In case you feel anything makes you feel that it was for promotional please do let me know, so that i can make the necessary changes. First thing when I was creating the article it says I need to reference links as from where i got the information. Also there is lot more to write and make people knowledgeable about it. I did appreciate to let me know more details on this and solve the issue and make the article and brought to live. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spotnuru (talk • contribs) 15:05, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion for Enriched Text Content
Hi there, I was wondering if you could please elaborate on what parts of this page you found to be promotional rather than "encyclopedic" so that I could make the necessary changes. Given its brevity and that all information included is referenced, I'm unsure where the promotional material is located. Thanks 9933Wally (talk) 19:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello 9933Wally! Thanks for contributing to the encyclopedia. The phrases of the article that were copied-and-pasted from some of the sources that you have proposed as references create unfortunately two problems: 1) Copying verbatim those phrases, even if they are relatively short, is a copyright issue for Wikipedia and 2) Using texts taken from sources that promote a subject, usually produce an article with a promotional tone. I would like to help you to increase the chances of seeing your article published in Wikipedia, here follow my suggestions, which include links to the pages of Wikipedia guidelines that you should read:

I hope that it helps. Happy editing! LowLevel73(talk) 20:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)
 * If you are somewhat connected to the subject/topic discussed in the article, you should not edit it. This is called conflict of interest and experience shows that it's nearly impossible to write a neutral text about something that we have an interest to promote. Please see also Advice for editors who may have a conflict of interest
 * Before creating an article, check if the subject/topic is notable. If it isn't, then the article will be sooner or later deleted.
 * Writing for an encyclopedia can be a bit complex and Wikipedia provides Articles for creation, a section curated by experienced editors who would help you to create an article compatible with Wikipedia guidelines. See also their Article wizard.
 * Articles should be written by scratch. In any case, don't copy any content from other websites, unless those contents meet the criteria for acceptable contributions explained at Copyrights.

Who are you?
Hello. Do you work for the Vatican? Libreria Editrice Vaticana? Do you have some kind of legal rights over the official Catechism of the Catholic Church? A Cardinal perhaps? In the ideological line of Cardinal Kasper perhaps? Please let me know. I have very limited time as I am in Afghanistan right now, but will take a couple minutes here and there to check the internet.

Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aroniel2 (talk • contribs) 09:25, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

NewLeaf Chocolates Deletion
Hello LowLevel73!

I was not sure if I had responded in the correct fashion. Hopefully my talk page submission reached you. I belive the company is worth mentioning because it is the first of it's kind to create a new eco-friendly shipping and packing "peanut". The other information I found to be pertinent to the cause since it referred to their environmental charity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbsohe12 (talk • contribs) 03:38, 4 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Cbsohe12 and thanks for contributing to the encyclopedia!


 * An administrator has reviewed the nomination of the article for a "speedy deletion" and the text of you opposition. It has been decided to delete the article. When you opposed the deletion, you explained why the subject of the article was, in your opinion, notable. In Wikipedia "notability" is defined by these guidelines: WP:N and the articles are evaluated according to them, not according the subjective opinions of the editors. I invite you to read these guidelines and to check whether "NewLeaf Chocolates" can be considered notable according to them.


 * Also, a few paragraphs above in this page, you'll find a section named "Speedy deletion for Enriched Text Content" in which I wrote a list of four points/suggestion that I think could be useful to you as well. I'm sure that they will help you to improve your future contributions to the encyclopedia so that they will be compatible with Wikipedia guidelines. Let me know if you need any further assistance, I'll be glad to help. Cheers! LowLevel73(talk) 05:00, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Comment by Douglasschorr
Hello LowLevel73 ... no issue. Putting in a page for my one and only book was over enthusiasm on the part of my son (13) and I ... we started the afternoon wanting to declare me as an Atheist/Humanist on your Wikipedia List of Atheist page. Indeed I may be the only EX-Rhodie on it! Thanks for the welcome. I will work my way in slowly! Douglas Schorr — Preceding unsigned comment added by Douglasschorr (talk • contribs) 07:32, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Douglasschorr, welcome again to Wikipedia! I'm glad to see that you want to contribute to the encyclopedia. As you have already seen, other editors have published on your talk page a box with some important links to the main Wikipedia guidelines. I'm sure that their content will greatly help you to understand how to contribute. After reading those guidelines, if you have questions about how to start editing, you can ask them at the Teahouse, where experienced editors will give you excellent guidance and suggestions. Happy editing! LowLevel73(talk) 07:49, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of abillity
Hi LowLevel73, following your recommendation for speedy deletion of the abillity page I tried to contest the decision using the link provided but heard nothing back.

I'd like to have a conversation about it as I thought the content was accurate, relevant and factual and I certainly did not intend for it to sound promotional in any way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voxcomm (talk • contribs) 11:16, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Voxcomm, thanks for contributing to Wikipedia! The article has been perceived quite focused on highlighting the positive aspects of the product and its features. As a result, the overall tone was similar to a typical promotional "brochure" that listed the good features of a product. This perception was enforced also by specific expressions like "...over X per hour/mile/second", which are typically used in contexts where the goal is to promote something. As you imagine, this is far from the encyclopedic tone that a Wikipedia article aims to reach. The suggestion that I can give to you is the same that I provide to any editor who wants to write an article about a product or a company/organization/group:
 * If you are somewhat connected to the subject/topic discussed in the article, you are strongly discouraged to edit it. This is called conflict of interest and experience shows that it's nearly impossible to write a neutral-tone article about something that we have an interest to promote. If it applies to you, please see also Advice for editors who may have a conflict of interest
 * Before creating an article, check if the subject/topic is what Wikipedia defines as "notable". If it isn't, there is no point in writing an article about it because sooner or later an editor will point out the lack of notability and the article will be deleted. The key aspect here is that the article needs to give evidence of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject".
 * Writing for an encyclopedia can be a bit complex and Wikipedia provides Articles for creation, a section curated by experienced editors who would help you to create an article compatible with Wikipedia guidelines. See also their Article wizard.
 * Articles should be written by scratch. In any case, don't copy any content from other websites, unless those contents meet the criteria for acceptable contributions explained at Copyrights.
 * I hope that it helps. Happy editing! LowLevel73(talk) 20:16, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

speedy deletion Gabriela Pochinki
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Pochinki This article contains the biography of Gabriela Pochinki. Has your career as an opera singer internationally. We have the same article in Wikipedia/ES. What are the suggested modifications ? Thank You. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hgseo451 (talk • contribs) 21:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Hgseo451, thanks for your contribution! An article about this person would be very well welcomed, in my opinion, but in its current form it is very very far from a neutral-tone article; it is full of praises of this person's talents and achievements. An article should provide information about the subject in a neutral way, as it is explained in the following page of Wikipedia guidelines: Neutral point of view. My suggestion to you is to modify the article and remove any kind of praise and any emphatic statement about this person. Also, I suggest to you to read the four general suggestions that I've written at the very top of this page because I think that some of them could be useful as well. I hope that it helps. Happy editing! LowLevel73(talk) 22:15, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

•• Thank you very much for the reply. We will make the suggested changes. Please do not delete the item we are working on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hgseo451 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Hgseo451, it's not up to me to decide whether the article will be deleted or not. If you want to oppose its deletion you have to click the "Oppose this speedy deletion" button that has been published at the top of the article and provide an explanation about why the article should be kept. An administrator will read your comment. Also, if you can contribute to the editing of the corresponding Spanish article, I suggest to improve it as well. Happy editing! LowLevel73(talk) 22:36, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Speed deletion of Pirate Party Wales & Andy Chyba
Hello there. Thank you for directing me to the guidlines on how articles can avoid deletion. I'm filling the pages (marked above) as quickly as possible but as you can expect it takes some time collecting all the bits and pieces.

As the articles grow their notability will become a bit more clear. Do you know how long a speedy deletion notice will stay there before an item is actually deleted? I'm adding the information ASAP but I'm a little worried about time frames...

Some of the notable content will be in picture form too, which I cannot yet upload as my account is brand new! :(

Thanks

Drowz0r (talk) 02:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Drowz0r, thanks for your contributions! I've removed the speedy-deletion template on both pages. This should give the editors more time to provide evidence of the notability of the two topics. In the future, if you want to avoid speedy-delete nominations for the articles that you'll create, my suggestion is to create them in your personal sandbox (you should see a link to it at the top of your user page) and to move them to the "main space" only when you'll think that the notability of the topic clearly emerges from the contents. Let me know if I can help you more and thanks again for your edits! Cheers! LowLevel73(talk) 02:34, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

About Tyson Sullivan
Hey LowLevel73 thanks so much for your help on editing Tyson Sullivan I cited some sources and added some to his page to make it a bit more substantial I think thats what your edits were getting at haha, sorry I'm new to this. Thanks so much for your help, let me know if there's anything else I can do to pages to make them better in the future. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Popcornfury (talk • contribs) 05:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, Popcornfury, welcome to Wikipedia and thanks for contributing! Any good reference that you can find about the actor will play an important role in establishing how much notable he is. You could report opinions about him by notable people, which awards he won, interviews by notable newspapers or magazines, etc. Please, note that the notability of the topic/subject discussed in an article is always a key factor in Wikipedia and that topics/subjects not considered notable enough could motivate other editors to nominate the article for deletion. So, it's important that the article makes evident that the actor is notable enough to deserve an article in the encyclopedia. You can find further suggestions in the box at the top of this talk page. Let me know if I can help some more. Happy editing! LowLevel73(talk) 06:12, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
 * P.S. In talk pages like this one, always end your comments with  to sign your messages, so people can easily understand who is writing to them.

Speed deletion of Dry Mortar Production Line
Dear LowLevel73, thanks for pointing out the faults of this article. However I think I will continue finishing an article titled the same or similar, but in my own sentences and neutral language (please forgive my bad English). Because I think it's useful for many people who get involved and that's what I'm good at. Just one question, if I write the article in my sandbox, when should I know it's the right time to publish it, in other words, how should I know it's not violating any of wiki's rules. Is there anyone professional who can help examining it or just follow my feelings. Because you know, the checking is inevitably subjective and can cause deletion at anytime. Or can I begin with a shorter article, which may not containing all the information needed that I can supplement in the future, but makes the checking safer? Thanks for your time.Wikisay (talk) 02:10, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello, Wikisay, thanks for wanting to contribute to the encyclopedia! The first suggestion that I can give to you is to read the big box at the top of this page, if you haven't already read it. It contains a lot of good advice for people who would like to write an article, as well as links to the most important guidelines of Wikipedia.
 * Those suggestions include also the answer to your question "Is there anyone professional who can help examining it or just follow my feelings"; I'm referring to the section Articles for creation of Wikipedia, where you will find experienced editors that can help you to create an article compatible with the guidelines.
 * Let me know if you need any clarification. Regards!
 * LowLevel73(talk) 02:52, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Janice Urnstein Weissman
I am so totally lost with all of this!! I am trying to create a page for an artist. She asked that I used the content from her website directly. I was in the process of having her give a free copyright for the content and the page was deleted. The bot saw another website (a gallery that shows her work) with the same bio as on her website (which they copied from) and thought I was copying the gallery website. Obviously, this is not the case. Please help. Tammydunst (talk) 06:52, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Tammydunst! Thanks for contributing to the encyclopedia. Since you are "in the process of having her give a free copyright for the content", can you tell me which point of the process you have reached? Just for reference, this is the procedure we are talking about and it includes a few ways to inform both human editors and bots that the procedure is in progress. Let me know if I can help you more. (psst! Eventually, I will move our discussion to the bottom of the page, you'll find it there) Cheers! ► LowLevel (talk) 07:35, 10 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi! Thanks for your response.  Janice has submitted the email with the appropriate terminology to the wikipedia email given in the guidelines for donating copyrights.  At this point, I'm not sure if I should just rewrite it all in my own words but I feel awkward doing that as one of the sections was her "artist statement".  The bio is easy to rewrite.  The artist statement is interesting and pertinent to her feminist viewpoint in her artwork and how it applies to the nudes she paints.  Tammydunst (talk) 05:08, 11 November 2014 (UTC)


 * Hello Tammydunst! I think that you have two options:
 * Create again the article using the texts of the website and put the template OTRS pending at the top of its talk page. This will inform other editors that the procedure has started and it should prevent any automatic deletion of the article;
 * Write the article from scratch.
 * Personally, I would go with the second option because, from my experience, the texts that come from external websites are rarely suited for an encyclopedia and, almost always, they need to be changed. Usually these external texts tend to be promotional or to highlight the positive aspects of the subject. This is far from the neutral point of view that Wikipedia requires. Other times the tone is just not encyclopedic and needs to be changed.
 * Another problem is that Wikipedia requires references to support the statements in the article. For example, the website of this artist contains the phrase "She is considered a pioneer in conveying the philosophical and mystical stories of the body on her canvas." and Wikipedia guidelines would require that the attribution of the status of "pioneer" is declared and supported by secondary sources not affiliated with the artist. In other words, what the artist states about herself is irrelevant, the only relevant thing is what notable and not affiliated sources state about the artist. So, there is no point to copy a phrase from the website if it contains a statement that is not supported by references.
 * Personally, I would search for notable references before starting to write the article. In this way the article will include only statements that are supported by references.
 * In you haven't read it yet, have a look at the big box at the top of this page. It contains useful suggestions and link to guidelines that need to be followed to write an article compatible with Wikipedia guidelines. And you can even ask for an article to be written by experienced editors; it's explained in the point (4) of that list.
 * Cheers! ► LowLevel (talk) 06:14, 11 November 2014 (UTC)

Software Engineering Associates, Inc.
Thanks for the note. I thought that being the "World Leader in JOVIAL Language Support" made them significant, since JOVIAL is still used by a lot of avionics and they don't have a lot of competition in the field. I will try to add more. Peter Flass (talk) 17:14, 30 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Okay, I tried to expand this point by describing the types of applications JOVIAL is used for, rather than just assuming the reader would see it. Peter Flass (talk) 19:31, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Following the previous update I was unable to find any additional material on SEA. The company is a (apparently privately-held) defense contractor with one major customer (the USAF) so there's little. I still feel that their position as the "World Leader in JOVIAL Language Support" makes them notable. Peter Flass (talk) 23:55, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Tyson Sullivan for deletion
Hey LowLevel, saw that you had nominated the page for deletion, I went back in and added to the article addressing your concerns. Sorry if at first it may have been too vague or what not, like I said before I'm new to this whole WIKI world haha but am loving, learning to write in this really cool language. Any other help on the page would be greatly appreciated. Also I have an article with pictures of the actor on set but didn't know if I should cite that or not?? Thanks so much for your time. Popcornfury (talk) 04:38, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

thx for you reply
I am annwong1026,just wanna thank for your compliment!:) and nice to meet you on Wiki!
 * Hello User:Annwong1026, you're welcome! Happy editing! ► LowLevel (talk) 18:46, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Lolani
Hi there, just to let you know, I've nominated Lolani for Did You Know - if it gets on there then we'll be able to add it to the DYK section of Portal: Star Trek too. Miyagawa (talk) 09:55, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello Miyagawa, thanks for nominating that article for DYK. Do you think that mentioning the iconic green color in the DYK phrase would make the phrase more interesting to the readers? Something like: "... that Lou Ferrigno (pictured) was reminded of his role in The Incredible Hulk when he appeared as a green Orion trader in the Star Trek Continues episode "Lolani"? Cheers! ► LowLevel (talk) 18:53, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll get that added. Miyagawa (talk) 18:56, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

CSD
Oi, that article is a mess without any hope or simple or moderate salvage. Thank you for the CSD, I just did not have the heart to do it.-- &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;  &#9743;(talk)  23:57, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Hello &#9790;Loriendrew&#9789;, you are welcome! The CSD became a little more bearable to me when I noticed that there was a quite good version of the article in the Macedonian Wikipedia. I have invited the user to translate it in English, I'm sure that the result of the translation will be better (and more easily fixable, in case of issues) than the current version of the article. Cheers! ► LowLevel (talk) 00:24, 30 November 2014 (UTC)