User talk:LowtaxNetwork

If you look at the links I have added onto the reference pages I was not spaming, they are relevant links to the subjects and all these websites show is information, just like this site. It has no commercial benefit at all. The sites listed will be of great assistance to many of your visitors.


 * I've looked, they contain google ads. i.e. advertising, i.e. commercial gain. Someone stands to gain from getting those websites greater exposure. Please see what wikipedia is not. Wikipedia is not the yellow pages. --pgk( talk ) 08:20, 1 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think this is an over-reaction, as the sites are basically informational, and do provide a great deal of information without requiring visitors to partake of commercial offers. Sure, they have ads, but CNN and MSNBC and a ton of other informative sites have ads as well. This is merely information, although I would hope that Wikipedia will soon be as comprehensive in this area, thus obviating the need for such external links at all. bd2412  T 13:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!! At least someone sees where I am coming from. There is no longer Adwords on these sites anyway. LowtaxNetwork 09:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

{{unblock}.} I have been looking into other external links on your pages and i have found some that contain google ads i.e. advertising, i.e. commercial gain. So I am sure someone should stand to gain from these websites getting greater exposure! For example on your topic 'Investment' there is this link http://www.nasdaq.com/ and this has google adsense on there too. Our company is not marketing products and would certainly never use the yellow pages to get our sites out. They are purely information based. 12:27pm, 3 July 2006 I have also found that this site http://www.incorporateoffshore.net/ Is on alot of relevant topics and although they have no ads they are obviously advertising for extra traffic. 15:11, 3 July 2006.


 * I have removed the unblock template from your page. Your 48 hour block should have expired by now, and I don't see any associated autoblocks. Please don't do anything worthy of another block. Cheers, NoSeptember  14:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

13 July 2006
Please stop. If you continue to use Wikipedia for advertising, as you did in Andorra, you will be blocked from editing. NawlinWiki 13:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

So you have decided to remove all of my links even though they are for reference only... Would you please read my talk page before doing such things. LowtaxNetwork 13:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if they're for commercial gain or not -- WP is not a collection of indiscriminate links. Try adding content to the articles instead. NawlinWiki 14:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC) And besides, the links are to your site that tries to sell newsletter subscriptions -- they *are* commercial. NawlinWiki 14:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

You Wikipedian People do not seem to get your facts together!! You all have totally said different things. I wouldn't consider my links as being indiscriminate! The pages I put up are not direct pages to that subscription, they take you straight to the information for FREEEEEEEEEEE LowtaxNetwork 14:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I concur with NawlinWiki: your links are clearly spam as defined by Wikipedia. If you continue to add them to articles you will be blocked from editing. Please stop. Gwernol 14:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Can you please tell me why people wouldn't get information off of these pages, that is the whole point of external links is it not!! All this information will help them as it has helped myself.  It would probably help you guys too, thats if you have a brain big enough to take in the information. LowtaxNetwork 14:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the above message and the one you left on my talk page: please ensure your communications remain civil and refrain from [{WP:NPA|personal attacks]]. You should read Wikipedia's policies on spam and guidelines on external links before trying to tell us what is and is not appropriate for inclusion on Wikipedia. This is an encyclopedia not a free web host or promotional medium. Thanks, Gwernol 14:36, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Please calm down. I'm not going to block you unless you continue with this inappropriate behavior. Gwernol 14:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I think you are confusing listening with agreeing. I have listened to your arguments, I just don't agree with them. It seems clear (to me) that you are trying to use Wikipedia to promote your site, which is a violation of the spam guidelines. Just because a site is informational (and yours isn't purely inforamtional, by the way) does not mean linking to it is always appropriate. Gwernol 14:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I am a familiar with WP:AGF. I am assuming good faith, and that you are unfamiliar with Wikipedia's other applicable policies such as WP:SPAM and WP:EL which is why I have refrained from blocking you and have instead spent time to point you to the various policies you seem to have missed. Thanks, Gwernol 14:55, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for taking a moment to explain your reasoning. I appreciate it. You said: "I just want to get the information out to people in other ways" which sounds a lot like promoting your site and the information it contains. You also said "and this is what this site (Wikipedia) is made for is it not?" actually no, it isn't. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which means we don't just list anything. We have a few rules that tell us what is and is not appropriate content both for a Wikipedia article and for the sites we link to. For example, the external linking guidelines suggest you should not link to a "website that you own or maintain". They also say you should not add a link to "promote a site... with objectionable amounts of advertising" which lowtax might fall under (there are a lot of ads). Gwernol 15:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


 * Assuming you are not associated with them, I have to say the username you chose does not help your case at all. It makes it look like your main purpose on Wikipedia is to represent that organization or at least that you do not have a neutral position... Gwernol 15:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)