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Re: Weishampel exchange
Thanks for helping me keep an eye on this thing. I note with some alarm that you are attending my alma mater and hope that it's just coincidence and not indicative of anything... =) Powers 23:49, 12 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi Powers, I appreciated the note. If this concomitance means anything I'm sure it is that we make fine Wikipedians, being keepers of the peace and all. Really though, I came across the article from CollegeHumor, and considering some of the college-aged people I know... well, suffice to say that I expected worse. I'm just waiting for the link to be archived on CollegeHumor so that we can nominate it for deletion without interference (unless of course someone could prove to me that it wasn't a joke?). Anyways, thanks! &#126;MDD4696 00:47, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Wrong IP
Sure did, went to history and the editor had entered an IP with one edit and no warnings, so its contagious. I left a message on their page (Phatmonkey, the editor who made the request.) KillerChihuahua?!? 20:34, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Evils of Atheism
It's about damn time somebody taught atheists their own medicine, and before you ask, I do not generalize, I think there's a cultural distinction between atheism and nonbelievers. Atheists tend to be enraged over religion of any kind, and spend a lot of time elevating Darwin and bemoaning the Crusades. Nonbelievers in general - say, someone who's raised a Christian, believes the Bible is an allegory, and only attends church for a funeral or perhaps at Christmastime - tend to adopt a "Whatever gets you through the night" philosophy and be quiet on matters of faith. It's sort of like the difference between a devout vegetarian and someone who hates the taste of meat. Atheists are proud of their hate. It is something that they love devoutly and use it to hate christians. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by GreekWarrior (talk • contribs).

Drakeguy-I think you're missing the point of why so many people have become atheists and non-believers. I personally get turned off organized religion when I have seen it so consistently misused. It's been used to justify the attacks on innocent children(Beslan), or by others to attack minority groups for political gain (gays in the US) with little evidence to back up ANY of the accusations, and still by others to initiate ethnic cleansing and civil war (Bosnia and Iraq).

And what about Darwin? Darwin, when he made the theory, was not out to "get" Christianity and the story of Genesis. He simply was confronted with evidence that suggested an interesting pattern in the history of life on earth. You can fume all you want, but the simple fact of the matter is that you can now trace the evolution of humanity throughout DNA extracted from the bones of our ancestors. And not just our species, but many others as well. Just this past week they found a fossil that provides us with conclusive evidence of a link between fish and amphibians when scientists found a half-fish/half-amphibian in the Canadian Arctic on Baffin Island. It was until recently, a missing link creationists seized upon to attack evolution's "incomplete" record.

Finally, let's get to this issue of hate and who's oppressing whom more. I can find numerous examples of religion attacking science and other "undesirables"(Copernicus for suggesting the earth was round-got jailed, the Spanish Inquisition, the Scopes Monkey Trial(Scopes was on trial for teaching evolution, a banned subject in the state of Tennessee), the numerous attacks upon evolution since Darwin proposed it(including today's debate about putting intelligent design in schools that was forced upon the nation by a very reactive Pennsylvania school board), and religious conservatives attacking scientists' character after producing studies showing no significant difference being raised by gay parents than straight parents (mentally and physically). I don't know about atheists hating religion, as my roommate is atheist and really could not care less, but it would appear historically that religion, not science, has been the aggressor when beliefs were called into question by scientific evidence. The only conflict I can find that pitted science in any fashion(or the state in general) against religion was the French Revolution, during which the Catholic Church, due to its elitist economic goals in France, found itself temporarily banned.

Finally I'd like to say that I do not hate religion. I was baptized in the Lutheran Church and was raised in a fairly Christian household. My issue with your "atheists hate believers" article here is that you do not mention at all, just how many times the believers oppress, hate, or kill the atheists. Or the "infidel" believers of other religions or beliefs for that manner. Take the Beslan school hostage crisis, the harsh reaction to the "muslim takeover" of American ports, the current Shia-Sunni bloodbath in Iraq, Al-Queda declaring war on the "infidel crusaders" worldwide, the Taliban destroying "infidel" Buddhist statues in Afghanistan while praising god, the French Muslim riots, or the Nazis(a religious cult movement according to the History Channel) killing the Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, and Poles.

Much like Dan Brown has said, it's amazing how the body count always tends to go higher when there are more "true believers". Parts of organized religion have always been involved in terrible acts against others, suppresses rival groups, and rewrites history to its liking. Thus Mary Magdalene went from being Jesus' chief disciple to being a prostitute, and her Gospel was never included in the Holy Bible(yes, she wrote one-check out the Gnostic Gospels). And yes, organized religion does great things many times for the less fortunate, but like I said, all it takes are a few bad apples to ruin the reputation of everyone involved. Until organized religion is actually used to help people, not gain power for religious leaders, and not used to attack others, I will remain fairly suspicious of certain members of it. But there is one notable exception I have found going through the history books: Buddhism. I give Buddhism top marks for peacefulness as there has never been a holy war or oppression of a people by another because of it. In fact, I cannot even find a single instance of Buddhism even going after science or a scientific theory. Buddhism transcends scientific theory, and that's a beautiful and rare thing in this world.

Religion and atheism can coexist, but it takes both sides to hold the peace. The same goes for science and religion. My roommate respects the views of religious conservatives...my question is why you find it necessary to misrepresent the views of many atheists? It is a free country after all-my roommate has never expressed hate for you, and many others like him have not. Trust me, they're not out to get you and the 80 other percent of North Americans who happen to be Christian. Drakeguy 06:14, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Hilary Duff Merge
Why do you think the two Hilary Duff pages should be merged? Tcatron565

Notable People standard
How notable does a person have to be to qualify to be in Wikipedia? --Masssiveego 00:40, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

POV Check on MADtv Article
I Fixed the MADtv article on the second paragraph. all i did was toshow the history of MADtv i didn't mean to say about the favor over seasons. when i did it the rules popped out of my head so can you please takre out the POV check Metlover21 5:56 3, Febuary 2006 (UTC)

Cameltoe
The old link didn't work. I guess snopes didn't like linking to their site. So, that's why I changed it. If you have an image with higher resolution, feel free to change it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.100.163.31 (talk • contribs)

Visit my Wikicity
If you know what wikicities is then i invite you to see my Wikicity The in living color guide it has facts and info on the show if you would like to visit go to the link on the bottom if you would like to leave a comment then go to discussion thank you                              Metlover21 23:28, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Spycraft Linkification
Thanks for adding the link to the Star Wars rpg. I was working on that article while at work last night, so some things were missed ;) Cybogoblin 02:37, 28 February 2006 (UTC) (PS. Is this the same Lt Powers as is on the AEG Forums?)

Categories for deletion
Why did you only list Category:People who worked with Ralph Bakshi for deletion, and not Category:People who worked with David Lynch? How is one superior to the other? If neither of which is notable, why not try to get both of them deleted? (Ibaranoff24 03:30, 7 March 2006 (UTC))

Daystar (hacker culture)
Your comment on removing the prod was "it's been around for ages." Can you provide a reference? A search of daystar slang on Google only turns up Wiktionary. A search of daystar hacker only turns up Wikipedia mirrors as relevant hits. Daystar is also a company so it could be overwhelmed by that, but I couldn't find a reference. I'll agree the term "day star" has been used for quite a long time, but I see no evidence that it's part of hacker culture. Day star, in common usage, is a reference to Venus (also called the morning star and evening star). Thanks. -- JLaTondre 13:32, 12 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Reference from 2000:  Another reference from 2000:   From 1999:
 * I can't find any older references, but its usage in the above links seems to indicate it was at least recognizable if not in widespread use by the year 2000. "Evil DayStar" and "The rumors of the Daystar are true!" appear to be the most common constructions.  Powers 14:27, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Hmm, only 329 Google hits for "evil Daystar" and 316 for "rumors of the Daystar are true" (though that phrase could easily vary in wording). Not enough to warrant the creation of an article in my opinion, but since it already exists, enough that I won't argue for its deletion. Thanks for your time... -- JLaTondre 17:30, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. I don't necessarily disagree; I primarily wanted to make sure it got an AfD discussion before being deleted.  =)  Powers 18:45, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

User talk:64.18.36.2
I was just trying to get people's attention on User talk:64.18.36.2 since s/he is posting some particularly nasty vandalism with racist allegations that read like actual facts. Trying to avoid another ridiculous John Seigenthaler Sr. Wikipedia biography controversy. —Wknight94 (talk) 22:09, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Paul Bunyan
I thought someone might have some doubts about it. I named Paul Bunyan (lumberjack) because he was most famous for being the mythical lumberjack, of course. Of course, your solution might have been more pratical for the fix of one redirect, but what if those redirects do get filled? The disambiguation page would have been created eventually. You may have not noticed yet, but I did just add some blue links into the disambiguation page. They are Paul Bunyan Trophy and Paul Bunyan's Axe. And I think it safe to assume anything named Paul Bunyan will probably be named after the lumberjack anyways. Well, I'll see if I get anymore complaints and if I do, I'll probably revert it to the previous versions. M o e  ε  03:29, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Blue Cross Arena
I thought that picture was okay because it had the logo on that part of the building. But yeah it probably isn't good because its more than just the logo. Can it be a zoomed in picture of that do you think? I couldn't find a picture of the logo by itself.

re: DRV for myg0t
Several days ago, you recommended undeleting the article for myg0t. In your comment, you said that you believed the second deletion nomination had been closed in error and that consensus had not been reached. Since your comment, I discovered that the second AFD discussion in question had been vandalized by an anon user between the closure of the discussion and the start of the deletion review. The vandalism obscured several valid comments. Could I ask you to return to the DRV discussion, review the unvandalized version of the AFD discussion and affirm whether or not you still believe the discussion was improperly closed? Thanks. Rossami (talk) 19:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Mike Murdock
Can I get an edit on the talk page of the Mike Murdock article about why you loathe Mike Murdock? --Masssiveego 18:50, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Thankyou
Thankyou for your very kind and courteous comment on the DRV page for The Game. Didn't you think I waffled a bit, though? --David.Mestel 06:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Thankyou for your kind reply. I'm thinking of joining the AMA or the Advocates' Cabal. --David.Mestel 14:46, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your message. I will definantly check these features out and start using them :) Thanks. Danlev 04:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Thank You
On behalf of the CVU, thank you for your disambiguation of Phasing.

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—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mhs5392 (talk • contribs).

"Rochester Canal"
Thanks for fixing that. I know nothing about the Rochester area and was only going by the description on the source page, which captioned the image with, "Red-roofed barges follow the line of the Rochester Canal, with the Rochester Skyline in the background."  howch e  ng   {chat} 00:04, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Christian Naturism cleanup - Thanks
Thanks for cleaning up the "Christian Naturism" wiki.

As you can probably tell, I am still new to all of this and so I was having trouble figuring out how to properly format the quotations area.

I have a ton more to add, including Biblical verses used to support Christian Naturism.

I am dabating wheter they should be on the same page or on another page and if so wht it should be called.

Thanks,

Nathan Powers

Natman55 17:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

Craig Ferguson
Thanks for the backup at the Ferguson article&mdash;also want to note that when I said "The" is the only term appropriate, I also added other necessary terms, I know "the" isn't the only one. But thanks for the assistance!. &mdash; CRAZY `( IN )` SANE 19:15, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Spring holiday
I accept your apology, as "User:142.176.56.175" is most definitely not me, though yes I do admit it seems suspicious, what can I do? Also, I wish you would review User:Thumbelina's edits and see that they are not offering any type of NPOV in comparison to the original state of the page, they are simply ignoring the cited facts that are agreed apon as valid by me and other users who have visited Spring holiday's talk page. I can assure you that the version prior to Thumbelina's rude intrusion is as NPOV as possible, and I'm sure you won't find any POV, and every one of my claims has extensive in-text citations. Thumbelina also removed an agreed apon consensus between myself and User:AYArktos, which holds that there should be extensive assurance that these terms are only used in North America. Also, the user added non-Christian holidays such as "Hanukkah", which is completely original research as there is no attempt to validate his claims. &mdash; CRAZY `( IN )` SANE 23:40, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Replied to your comments
Sorry for the delay. See Talk:Water planet. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 07:38, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:310Christina .jpg
An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:310Christina .jpg, has been listed at Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. Please go to its page to provide the necessary information on the source or licensing of this image (if you have any), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. I'm putting this notice here since you were the one that added the contested image back to the article. Basically, just to inform you of what's going on with the image. Dismas|(talk) 21:36, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Toronto MLS team
Hey I was just wondering where you found out about the name of the Inter Toronto being announced. I've been surfing the net for days and i couldn't find it. Also...will the press conference be aired on TV?? thanx (Soccer fan 21:40, 8 May 2006 (UTC))

Tuba
Only a series of books written in Welsh in my University Library, plus a fair amount of urban legends;) Perhaps it's NN, but I thought it deserved a mention here rather than have an entire page or even a section in another page. There are posters for sale in the university print shop of them, they're used in stories to illustrate the point that you never know what happens unless you were actually there - long story. HawkerTyphoon 01:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Christian Naturism
Methinks the only thing is to get an admin to do a partial protect on the page; someone you might want to have look at this is KimvdLinde, on the anti-vandal patrol & also has done a lot of work on clothes-free pages. - I'll put a note on her page.Bridesmill 14:46, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Deletion review/Myg0t (second)
Hi, I notice you've had a say in previous discussions about deletions/undeletions for the myg0t article, I'd just like to inform you that another such discussion is occurring now, so if you'd like to voice your opinion, for or against undeletion of the article, feel free to post your thoughts. - USER-cacophony 20:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Spectacor
I added the tag because of the very long list of locations...if my addition was in error and there's nothing more that can be done to wikify the article, then feel free to remove it. Best, Paul 14:11, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

NoZe Brotherhood
Thanks for updating the link to say "collegiate secret society." I really don't see why Mel keeps changing it when it was decided both by RfC and MedCab. I am actually involved with him in another case where he won't listen to the verdict, so I have put a request for advocacy to see what to do about it. Again, thanks for your help. Amalas  =^_^=  13:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * This, of course, demonstrates the lack of care with which Amalas "investigated" this matter; I had already edited the article to include a link to "collegiate secret society". The change is now a matter of the unargued insistence that the link should be in the first sentence of the summary.
 * I notice that you're also insisting on reverting to the decription of the students' writing style as "unique"; what are your grounds for that? --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 15:25, 19 May 2006 (UTC)


 * I know that it has been stated that the link should be in the first sentence, but not argued. My reason for placing it where I have is that it fits better there; the summary explains that the society's "secret" status was a later development, and I therefore placed the information where that change was described.
 * My insistence is, I admit, partly a matter of deep irritation at the person or persons who edit the article in line with their own interests and points of view, who attack me personally, and who betray their ignorance of Wikipedia by insisting that only those who have personal knowledge of the subject should edit the article. The farce of the mediation didn't help (an editor who has been here for two months glanced at the issue rather carelessly and issued a verdict, failing to mediate in any sense of that word).
 * I have no wish to fall out with a fellow clarinettist, though, and I hope that our interactions can remain amicable even in disagreement. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 16:36, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your message &mdash; that seems to be a good idea. --Mel Etitis ( Μελ Ετητης ) 10:03, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Confused
Hi, I was wondering why you restored my deleted messages on my user page. I had already put them in my archive folder. QuizQuick 22:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Oh it's all right. I just have a tendency to archive all the messages that are a couple of days old and leave space for the new onesQuizQuick 23:26, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

Star Wars Galaxies
First of all, if you read the forums the fact that all players ar refering to publish 29 as the CU3 indicates that it is indeed a major update. Secondly, if you were still playing the game and had legitamite background knowladge of the material in context, you would know that too. Thirdly, your opinion is not better or worse than mine, so what gives you the right to change it. Rekov 22:07, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Have you played it on TC2 tho? It is a whole new system. They might not say so on the forums but in actuallity the system is basically the CU, with the FPS targeting system. The way the specials fire with the default attack funtions almost exactly as it did during the CU, exept that the default attack elicits only a cooldown timer on itself, and not all other specials. The Dev report on the changes is far understated. As for the skills being changed in the other 2, isent this the publish that introduces profession differentiation. Rekov 03:03, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

It seems to me that the series of changes since the Summits would, if all jammed together, be a significant change to the game. Its not a specific publish that is doing it, but rather publishes 29 - 33. I think something should be said about it somewhere, maybe when they are done with them.

Rekov 21:43, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

CONCACAF Champions League
Powers, knowing you to be the ultra wikipedian around here, I'd like to ask if you'd seen my post on the MLS discussion page regarding the new "CONCACAF Champions League" editing. I haven't started putting it in yet, and was waiting on a more official source than Soccer America. Could you check out the link and tell me what you think? By the way, Rekov made the same mistake I did when he posted on my page about that little GreekWarrior tirade. Isn't it about time, if you've been vandalized twice, to start blacklisting certain individuals from editing your page?Drakeguy 03:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Oh well, at least I asked. Powers, the Concacaf acronym stands for the Confederation of North, Central And Carribean America Football. If your boys (Rochester Raging Rhino's) were granted an MLS franchise, this would be a contest they might see if they finished in the top 4 of MLS. Well, hopefully Rochester gets that MLS franchise they've been talking about sometime. Your team could be the MLS' 14th or so franchise, or maybe be the finishing expansion franchise of 16 total expected by 2010. I thought after you mentioned watching the MLS' main page that you were more into soccer.Drakeguy 23:19, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

Thans for your welcome
Well, man, thanks for your welcome message on my talk page (King mike), but I've been around on Wikipedia for about two years now. Anyway, thanks !

King mike 15:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
Uh, I was going down General Eisenhower's talk page, and I saw that you were speculating that I was a sockpuppet of GeorgeMoney! Ha! XD In what way am I similar to GeorgeMoney? God, I wish I'd seen this before. This is so much fun. Oh, yeah, sorry to bring this up, I know it happend a while ago, but...y'know. It's very interesting. So, in what way? Sergeant  Snopake  16:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

PA 666
I moved it because that is the term used by PennDOT (more often its abbreviation PA Route 666). State Route 666 (note no Pennsylvania before) is also used, but in some cases the numbers don't match - Interstate 380 is State Route 380, while Pennsylvania Route 380 is actually State Route 400. As for the redirects, the hope is that eventually those - at least US 6 - will be their own articles, similar to for instance U.S. Route 30 in Pennsylvania (which still needs work/expansion). --SPUI (T - C) 12:34, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I kinda monkeyed...
...with Talk:List of American words not widely used in the United Kingdom. Thanks for fixing it. Best, JackLumber, 13:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
For reverting the offensive vandalism on my user page. Much appreciated. Dogville 15:08, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Contrabass clarinet
It's not a source you can easily check, which does indeed give me some qualms about mentioning it, but it's been discussed, and photos of it have been posted, on the contrabass mailing list (http://www.contrabass.com/pages/list.html). That page claims there is an archive but it doesn't seem to include anything recent. As for the prototype's significance, it is described by list members who've played it as better, fuller sounding than previous cbcls, and the first with full Boehm keywork. They sound quite excited about it.

If that's not good enough for Wikipedia, and I can well imagine it might not, please feel free to remove mention from the contrabass clarinet article and/or those for Benedikt Eppelsheim and clarinet makers. (The Eppelsheim article also has mention of a new contrabass sax which, like the contrabass clarinet, is not mentioned on the Eppelsheim web site and for which, again, the only source I know of is the contrabass mailing list.) If on the other hand it just needs some citation, perhaps you can suggest something appropriate. Thanks. -- Rsholmes 04:45, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Jeb Bush
I have not yet blocked him because I did one of the reverts myself, and this is to a degree a content dispute. I left a warning behind, next time I will do it. Reminder for you, you are at 3RR at the moment yourself. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 18:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Good step. -- Kim van der Linde at venus 18:27, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

create a list of pac man games
i tell you what sience you WONT stop removing the pac man article why dont you ask someone to create a list of pac man games article. what do you think? is that a good idear?Touth 21:15, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Thanks for the welcome. I feel all warm and cherished now! BuildControl 08:19, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

The Lizzie McGuire Movie
Regarding your recent edit, I think the anonymous user meant "Hilary Duff's mother", not "Lizzie's mother", which explains why it would have been derailed (because clearly, as you said, a fictional character cannot derail a film). I think it's another example of a person misusing an actress's character's name for the actress herself. However, I have not reverted your edit because I have no examples showing the statement to be true. – Mipadi 12:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Kid in King Arthur's Court
Hi there! I'm part of a project which is using an automated program to find article which include info about both a film and its source material, so we can consider splitting the articles into their separate components. The comment about a split is there as a sign to the program to skip that article, as the film article is already separate from the book article. For more on the project, see User:Eagle 101/films that are also novels list. Cheers, &hearts; Her Pegship &hearts; 15:25, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Touth
excuse me but what does the word intentioned mean? dose it mean i am a BAD editer now? i hope am not! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Touth (talk • contribs).

i really dont know! you see i just want all the video game charactors to be on the list. look if you REALLY dont want me to add pac man to the list then i suggest you create an article called list of pac man games. do you think you can do that for me.....please? Touth 17:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

ok thanks! Best Regurds Touth 18:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Academy
Lt Powers, Sir,

I am not sure how else to message you, so I am editing your user page. I noticed that you changed the "never" back to "rarely" on the USAFA page. I believe never is the only thing strong enough, as it is NEVER called Colorado Springs. I KNOW that you wikipedia types like to sound all official and intelligent when writing these articles. But saying rarely is misleading to the reader. Now when someone reads the article they will think that it is sometimes appropriate to call the Academy "Colorado Springs." When in fact if they start calling it that the ONLY people who will know what in the world they are talking about are other MISINFORMED wikipedia readers. You'll notice as you look through the history of the Academy's article that this never/really controversy has been a battle ground for sometime. When me and my friends (all academy grads) first started trying to make the correction we were continually denied by a few certain individuals who thought they knew more about it than we did (I think they saw the Annapolis movie). Now you are changing it back to rarely after it was corrected. Maybe I'm crazy, but I am assuming by your user name that you have some association with the Academy. Maybe you are even a grad yourself. In which case you should know that the Academy is NEVER referred to as Colorado Springs. If you think "never" is too strong... maybe (since you contribute at an expert level for English) you can think of another word that means never. Rarely is like 95% we need a 100% exclusion of the Colorado Springs term. Comprendas? (novice spanish)

Please make the appropriate corrections.

V/R Colonel Sanders Kentucky

Placed here by HawkerTyphoon 02:40, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Christmastime greetings
Our opposing points of view nonwithstanding, I would like to invite you on over to Christmastime greetings and get your opinion and perhaps some additions/edits. I'll have you know that&mdash;much as you may not have thought&mdash;I don't want to go around creating articles and keeping them the exact same as my initial incarnation, if you compare the first edit to the most recent edit of Spring holiday, you'll see alot of changes were made. I'm inviting you because I'd like an outside view on both NPOV and other possible errors, and you seem the most competent of my opponents and already are involved in the similar natured–article "Spring holiday". My new article is a long–needed replacement article for the following stubs: Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, Season's Greetings. Additions for Hanukkah, Winter solstice, and perhaps other winter holidays would be great. I haven't had time to research them thoroughly as of yet.I've already made a RfC on the article, and your input would help. Regards. &mdash; C RAZY `( IN )`S ANE 03:15, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

my feelings
yes LtPowers! i am really getting upset now because LGagnon wont stop removing my edits! even worse he thinks its vandalizam. can you please warn him about this and make me really happy please?....sniff....sniff....sob....sob Touth 23:15, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

because the Lists of video games and computer games article is the only article i like to go the most and if i add ALL the lists and series articles including pac man there then it will save me some time on my hands from having to type it in the search box but the BIG problem is LGagnon wont let me do that. i would be really happy if he accepts my edits!....sob....sob Touth 23:40, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Your recent reversion to my user talk page
So, in an attempt to revert vandalism on Nick Griffin today, i accidentally reverted Tawkerbot2's revert of said vandalism (because I'd refreshed the page before doing so to get popups to kick in, and didn't notice the new entry in history). Obviously this was a mistake, which Tawkerbot2 immediately corrected, leaving a note on my talk page, which I deleted because I don't need it there. And you then reverted my deletion from my own talk page, telling me not to remove valid warnings from talk pages. What rule were you referring to, and does it need to stay there forever, despite its redundancy? Dogville 18:54, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome, LtPowers :-) Jzerocsk 18:22, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

List of Lemmings games
well no! i want the list to be different. i do not want to copy the Lemmings (series) article onto here. by the way it would be nice if this article had some chracter or something and an image of a lemming. i would really appreciate it if you could do that for me before this article gets deleted and i do NOT want to see that happen. pretty please with a cherry on the top? ( i am not being girly by the way) HEHE —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Touth (talk • contribs).

but LGagnon has warned me not to remove it! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Touth (talk • contribs).

over at the edit history tag. if you click on it you will see Touth 00:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
many thanks! your the best editer and i do hope that the article will get improved. best reguards Touth 00:09, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

List reversion
Hi - you reverted my edit to Star Trek role-playing game (FASA), in which I had removed the lists of books which dominate that article. Your edit summary states "This is no less encyclopedic than a discography or filmography, IMO.", which I don't particularly disagree with. I'd like to point out two things:
 * 1) Manual of Style (lists of works) was not made policy - discographies and filmographies are not necessarily considered encyclopedic.  My feeling is that such lists are worthwhile if they list independently notable entities which a user might read more on (that is, they have their own articles), but not if they simply list things for the sake of listing them.  I'd say the list of sourcebooks is the second sort.
 * 2) The WikiProject Role-playing games recommended style recommends against lists of sourcebooks.

However, the WP:RPG guidance was included because no-one objected, rather than because it had overwhelming support. I would value your opinion at the style talk page, so we can get a clearer consensus on what is and isn't encyclopedic in these circumstances. Percy Snoodle 17:41, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[[eff]
Feel free to redirect to EFF. &mdash; C RAZY `( IN )`S ANE 20:28, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

please try to understand
hi LtPowers! no i want all the lists to be on the Lists of video games and computers games article and i am sorry if i am being a prat and a little abusive lately but its just because some editers just dont care about my feelings. you know i think you are the nicest and kindest editer to me which makes me very happy.Touth 00:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Removing pictures
I had a nice shot of the Circus fleas removed because of "quality" but because there is no high quality press shot, you lose the information. That shot of the vans is very helpful in establishing the ID of the first and 2nd vans which is up to question. Perhaps a gallery would be a better place to stash this. Far as I know, a low-res screen capture is OK for this purpose.

Touth
because the Lists of computer games and video games article is my main article and i would like all my favorite articles to be there. all i am really interested in is video games! i hope that answers your question dude! Touth 23:01, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

US 219
U.S. Route 219 in New York may be split off in the future, in which case US 219 (NY) would redirect there. --SPUI (T - C) 19:28, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
ok thanks! i really want to thank for all your help! you really are the best and kindest editer on wikipedia! i own you one.no wait i think i own you LOADS! HEHE Touth 23:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured article
I disagree with your opinion. I thoroughly read that before posting. I am doing nothing but "stating my point" and offering my support for an article. Please show what exact part of WP:POINT I am violating. Regards, --Jayzel 14:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I am sorry if you do not like my reasons for supporting an article, but we are all free to have our opinions. The page you keep referring to is very vague and says nothing about demanding Wikipedians to give only certain reasons for supporting articles for FA status. Specifically, it states "Discussion, rather than unilateral action, is the preferred means of changing policies, and the preferred mechanism for demonstrating the problem with policies. This means that an individual who opposes the state of a current rule or policy should not attempt to create in Wikipedia itself proof that the rule does not work." All I am doing is "discussing" and I demand you show where I am conducting "unilateral action". If you continue to call me a "disrupter" I will have to report you for harrassment. Regards, --Jayzel 14:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Perhaps I should not have added the comment regarding the role of the FA director and should have put abstained rather than support (I already changed it on one and will be doing it to the others tonight when I get the chance), but the rest of the comments are valid and not a disruption of any kind. I have been told that the standards for FA promotion are "fluid" and will not be set. Therefore, I am unable to make a decision on whether any of the nominated articles meet this changing standard that only the FA director is aware of. Regards, --Jayzel 17:22, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

be helpful
LtPowers why are you refusing to help me improve the list of lemmings games and list of Pac-man games articles? i thought you were nice and kind to me Touth 22:24, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Wiki-stalking
You better quit the wiki-stalking pal, otherwise you will be apologising to me again, now knock it on the head you muppet! Bazzajf 11:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

RfC at Talk:Spring holiday
After a few days I've noticed that you haven't commented on my recently added section at Talk:Spring holiday; just thought you might need a little notification here, thanks. &mdash; `C RAZY `( IN )`S ANE ` 19:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

talk page under attack
LtPowers i need your help! my talk page keeps getting vandalized by anonymous users and they are hurting my feelings. what shall i do and why am i getting battured? Touth 00:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

zelda series
LtPowers! i have not got much choice but to add the Legend of Zelda series article there all because of a redirect. if LGagnon dose not want me add that then what else can i do to solve this problem? i really want the zelda games to be there too! by the way how do i archive my talk page because its now a mess? thanks again my friend Touth 19:03, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

archiving
LtPowers, i dont get it. what do you mean select old sections and do i have to create another new user name? Touth 19:34, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Goof Troop
How on Earth can you remove the Goof Troop-F Troop reference claiming "unsourced speculation" and "The two names could have been independently developed." in the same paragraph as "The idea for Goof Troop is likely derived from several early-1950s Goofy cartoon shorts which depicted the Goof as a father to a mischievous red-haired son." when that statement is equally unsourced and could have been as independently developed as mine? --TheTruthiness 17:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Re:List of sex positions
Thanks a lot for your response! The previous description of 96 wasn't clear enough on the differences, so it wasn't worth retaining. If you would like to write a brief description of it on the page, it would be much appreciated. Thanks! EWS23 (Leave me a message!) 19:45, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

myg0t
Hi, I noticed you had some history reguarding the myg0t article. Well, the article is up for DrV, and I ask that you post your thoughts on whether or not it should be undeleted. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Deletion_review#myg0t - thanks, cacophony 23:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

My thanks
I sincerely apologize for not doing this sooner, but thank you for the Barnstar! -- T M F T - C 08:12, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

Sun tanning
Thanks for picking up my error on Sun tanning. It was entirely unintentional but completely my fault as a result of having to take short-cuts. MLA 13:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Xavier/Eide
I just wanted to thank you for your efforts in the PeeJ article. The person trying to add the AKA made me so angry I had to take a month long wikibreak just to cool my head. I appreciate your levelheaded continuation of rationality. Thanks. Fieari 16:30, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

Deaths, Suicides & Firearms (pleasant isn't it)
Hello,

Thanks for your reply at the Pump. I decided to answer you here. The exact name is 'Suicides by firearm' & the main death Category is 'Deaths by cause'.

Regards,


 * Michael David 14:37, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Richard Norton matter
I would welcome your input at Requests for comment/Block of Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ). The Uninvited Co., Inc. 20:20, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

FYI: Shaprio was speedily deleted
Since you may have missed my response, I am reproducing it here as a respectful courtesy. If you have seen it and feel this cluters your talk page, feel free to delete it. Some of the sources are questionable, notably Overlawyered.com. A quick example. Overlawyered promotes a study design to show that the tort system is bad for the economy, the infamous Tillinghast Towers Perrin study. They don't tell you TTP is a conglomerate which business is insurance in one form (reinsurance) or another (consulting to insurance companies). It is an interested party. The last time I checked, Overlawyerd.com left this little detail out. Another fact left out, is TTP will not disclose its sources and methods behind the study's conclusion making it impossible to verify. Not exactly reputable science. Again: the propieter is from the Manhattan Institute. The Manhattan Institute is a conservative think tank (nothing wrong with that) that accepts money from large corporations and coincidentally publishes viewpoint articles consistent with the agenda of those corporations. Their practice is legal, but is it ethical and does it make the reader more or less likely to believe it is neutral? Most people, if they answer that honestly would say no. I am not a PI lawyer BTW. The real issue is notablitity. His ads are infamous in Rochester perhaps, but not world wide. Unless that is the author's intention- to show the entire world Shapiro is/was sleazy. Unfortunately, it is just run of the mill sleaze, as I tried to point out. I actually watched the ads on the website that has archived them. Believe it or not, I've seen similar from different lawyers in different markets. Is deleting Shapiro important, I think so. Otherwise in fairness I can think of a lot of other professionals with sleazy annoying misleading ads. To be notable, you would have to demonstrate that Shaprio was the first lawyer with sleazy annoying loud ads that make unverifiable claims and who were cited by their bars. You would have to show he was the first to lose a malpractice case. Neither is the case. If anyone is includable regardless of notability, what standards are there? Finally as to what appeared as a partially formulated question, jawesq is my beloved spouse. We are most assuredly not sockpuppetsGfwesq 17:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Aw, thank you Gfwesq! And you are mine!  It is interesting that some believe we do not have the right to independently vote on WIkipedia, yet nobody would question our right to vote in any election.  With the rationale of some here (not Powers, I will note), then one could exclude husband and wife, sister and brother, etc.  This, of course, is ludicrous.  And in this instance, a total of 13 people (11 if one excludes Gfwesq and me) voted to delete this article.  Several added tags of 'speedy delete', which is appropriate, and finally was done.  And Powers, I do not disagree with you that this lawyer's ads were over the top and he should have been censured (which I guess he was, by the state bar).  My only quibble is that he is not notable, and there was no way to make the article NPOV, since its only purpose was to show how he was sleazy - if he had been notable (even infamous)  outside his locale, then I'd say leave the article.  It is colorful, at the least.  However, he is not infamous, and sadly there are all too many run-of-the-mill lawyers who act this way.  Fortunately, there are state bars that do address this.  I object to the 'Overlawyered' site as a reference, because its only aim is to disparage lawyers, anywhere it can find them.  Wikipedia is not 'Overlawyered' and I hope will never be. And I will add that I still think the law is an honorable profession, or I would not have gone to law school after a career in engineering.  All lawyers are not sleazes.  jawesq 18:40, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
 * As to a 'personal crusade' - yes, I do find gratuitous lawyer bashing offensive. I am shocked that Wikipedia seems to allow it.jawesq 20:13, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

WP:THIRD
Very nice redirect. Surprised nobody made that one, yet. Good catch. :) Luna Santin 01:38, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Rochester Sports
I did it because if you look at other "Sports in " categories you will see they are arranged the same way. TJ Spyke 02:05, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Main Sources
Old files of Shapiro’s web site

Here’s a sample page:

Promotional site making claims for Shapiro + give him a ring + more background & nice things 

Legal Ethics Resources on the Web, prepared by Brad Wendel, Associate Professor of Law, Cornell University School of Law – includes Shapiro

Litigation online – Canadian Medical Association 

Shapiro in Motor magazine, 2002

From Buffalo News NY 2006 – restrictions on advertising, mentions Shapiro 

Brand Week 1999 – “a one-second TV spot that gained him national media attention” 

Rochester Democrat and Chronicle – good stories, but you have to pay =

The Daily Orange – S.O.B. Lawyer validates his title (+ Robert Williams quote) 

Overlawyered   

Lawyer Ads get loud on prairielaw.com

Shapiro’s books
“Sue the Bastards” – book by Shapiro 

Chapter 1 of “Million Dollar Lungs” book by Shapiro 

Shapiro in web culture
(Blogs show people still talk about him)

Song about Shapiro! 

Poem mentions Shapiro

A poet mentions Shapiro

Syracuse uni student – people who have influenced me – Shapiro 

A blog: “(The mind reels that Wikipedia has an entry on Jim "The Hammer" Shapiro. Wikipedia knows all.)”

Blog on Shapiro

Shapiro mentioned on Rochester designer web site

Someone fakes Shapiro on friendster – Rochester City News 

Jim the Hammer Shapiro (fake page shut down as can be seen in Friends section) on MySpace.com – again showing his continuing appeal 

“Who I’d like to meet section” for Kirsten on MySpace – Jim the Hammer Shapiro (only in cached version)

Associated Press story
Below from www.nylawyer.com story credited to The Associated Press (renowned international news agency). NB you can get the story by registering free on this site and searching for the title) ‘’’NY Lawyer Known for Ads Suspended’’’ New York Lawyer May 3, 2004 By The Associated Press ROCHESTER, N.Y. -- Attorney James "Jim the Hammer" Shapiro, known for his television advertising, has been suspended from practicing law in New York state for a year. The Appellate Division of state Supreme Court said Shapiro's commercials were misleading and he impermissibly tried to solicit business from a comatose accident victim. The suspension resulted from a petition by the Grievance Committee of the 7th Judicial District. Shapiro said from his Florida home that the ruling is "unfair and unconstitutional" but has little effect. He sold his Rochester-based law firm six months ago, he said. The court faulted Shapiro's ads that said he will take certain actions on behalf of clients "when, in fact, respondent has not practiced law in a number of years and intended to take no action on behalf of any client." Shapiro said clients who responded to his ads were told up front that he wouldn't be representing them personally. He said the letter to the comatose woman told her to call for information only when she was better.

Feel free to use or delete as you wish. Tyrenius 06:35, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Idea
I had a minor bright idea, but I needed to get an objective take on it. Maybe I'll just live with it a bit longer till it flourishes or vanishes. Sorry for bothering you. Gmail is good and it strips out your IP as well I understand for totally comfortable anonymity (and it's free). Tyrenius 12:28, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

What do you reckon on the other sockpuppet possibility, as you've had dealings with both/all? Tyrenius 20:27, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

thanks and a quick question about prods
thanks for the welcome, LtPowers, I had a quick question... I was looking through some random pages and found an article ( You and I Misbehaving ) I thought might be redundant and prodded it. then Kappa deprodded it, visiting his talk page he seems to be an obsessive deprodder... however since I have not contributed to WP too much I don't feel comfortable submitting the article for AfD. Perhaps you could review the article and let me know if I was in the wrong prodding it. Xenocidic 15:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)