User talk:Luca Marasti

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Speedy deletion nomination of Seiwa Marine Electronics


A tag has been placed on Seiwa Marine Electronics, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which articles can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may be soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
 * It seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. (See section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Please read the guidelines on spam and FAQ/Business for more information.
 * It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that the page was nominated in error, contest the nomination by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion" in the speedy deletion tag. Doing so will take you to the talk page where you can explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but do not hesitate to add information that is consistent with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:24, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Contested deletion
I am copying your contested deletion argument from Talk:Seiwa Marine Electronics here to your talk page, because the article talk page will likely be deleted along with the article, and you would miss my response:
 * This page should not be speedily deleted because... it shows people an alternative to some other pages presented on Wikipedia, talking about other marine equipments as Garmin, Navico, Raymarine, etc. Seiwa Marine Electronics was the first OEM ever to develop marine navigation equipment using marine electronic charts, C-Map in particular, and it is part of the current marine electronic world. The seiwa related link http://www.seiwadirect.com presents information and documentation about current and legacy products, since 1984. If it is allowed to presente other marine players it must be allowed to be presented also Seiwa --Luca Marasti (talk) 13:37, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
 * Claims that Seiwa is the first (to do anything) must be backed up by citations to reliable sources. The link to the company's own website does not constitute a valid source, as the company is obviously expected to praise its own products, not to discuss them in an objective manner.  Wikipedia is not a directory where every company gets to have an article simply because their competitors have one.  Companies merit inclusion by meeting the relevant criteria for inclusion.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 13:44, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

June 2012
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Seiwa Marine Electronics, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Click here to contest this speedy deletion and appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the page's talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:02, 28 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps you didn't understand the warning above. Permit me to reiterate:
 * You may not remove the speedy deletion tags from an article you have created yourself. This is considered vandalism, and continuing to do it will result in you getting blocked.  You have properly contested the deletion on the talk page; it is now up to an administrator to evaluate your argument and the article itself to ascertain whether it meets the criteria for speedy deletion and to delete it or not.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Seiwa Marine Electronics. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted or removed. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. The reverted edit can be found [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=499765847 here]. Shri Ram Talk tome 15:07, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Ah, I understood that I could insert some warning (Adverising for example) to advise users about some current problem. i'm changing the text now folowing both guidelines - I hope - and other example on wikipedia. It is still not clear differences between my page and some others I listed above.
 * The difference (at least with Garmin) is that those Garmin has been the subject of multiple instances significant coverage in various independent third-party sources. The other two companies: not so much.  That is an issue for a different discussion, though.  WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 15:55, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

OK, I'm trying on developing the page in the way of Apple Inc. (with, of course, difference in number of contents). I want to include some reference on legacy products with images, more history and other contents.