User talk:LucasGeorge

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Notice of noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Appealing my topic ban". Thank you. —  Newslinger  talk   06:12, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Controversial topic area alert
—  Newslinger  talk   04:12, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

August 2020

 * The SPI wasn't filed in bad faith. The suspicion was already mentioned on the administators' noticeboard on July 27, but at that point I didn't yet see enough connections. You mention that you live "nowhere near" Sydney, but that's less than 100 kms, which is within the approximate accuracy of an IP geolocation. I think you're being a bit disingenuous here; after the 1999 ban and further campaigning from both the Falun Gong and CCP, the whole FLG is related to Chinese politics, not just their newspaper. There's no reason to believe that PatCheng is a real name, so offering an ID has no value nor is it customary to do that in Wikipedia.
 * You have around 100 edits and registered 8 years ago. You mention that you "ran a watchlist" (as in, someone gave you a complete watchlist before you registered), you were aware of Arilang1234's editing from 2011 and that you were informed about The Epoch Times article in a Facebook group. That would be WP:MEATPUPPET behavior which is also forbidden. So if that is your defence, then the question would only be if you are a sockpuppet or just a meatpuppet who had numerous coincidences with a sockmaster, including the "likely" CU result. --Pudeo (talk) 09:45, 7 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Drop your condescending attitude and quit putting words in my mouth. You know well that FLG only account for a tiny bit out of the entirety of Chinese politics, and most of my interests and edits are in CCP and the recent Chinese history in general. Also you know what the blue star on the top page means? How dare I use a WP function to place pages I am interested in on a watchlist. I came across Arilang's disputes the way many other people did: by looking at the NPOV tag and looking at the page discussions, and I did not like what I saw. And you still haven't answered my question: why would PatCheng/PCPP create a sock for things he was never topic banned from?--LucasGeorge (talk) 10:05, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

About your email
UTRS is migrating to a new system, which explains why UTRSBot isn't doing its job (that or there's a new bot that I don't know about...That happens more than I'd like). Since your talk page is unlocked, unless your appeal features information that you can't safely post on here, it's going to be declined as a matter of procedure (not necessarily with regard to the merit of your claim).

I'm involved, so I really can't undo any other admins' action in FLG related articles (unless maybe it was unblocking a user whose handling of the FLG articles I clearly disagreed with, and there's no way I could begin to argue that's been the case with you).

This was a checkuser block, and since I'm not a checkuser I can't do anything about that.

The SPI on you and the SPI on Homunculus are separate and not zero-sum. That said, while I agreed with you that there was sufficient reason to investigate Homunculus, the SPI on you featured more and better behavioral evidence. Not saying it's right or wrong -- I've only looked at it enough to know that I simply can't invest the time to try to find a counterargument. Sorry. Ian.thomson (talk) 11:12, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Same message as before; don't know what you're hoping I can advise you on. Ian.thomson (talk) 09:58, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Appeal

 * Fixed template at 08:36, 19 September 2020 (UTC).  Java Hurricane  08:36, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
 * The off-wiki evidence that I mentioned in my decline reason on 5 August is unrelated to Facebook. I am able to provide this evidence to any reviewing administrators via email. —  Newslinger  talk   23:32, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Very strange that you chose to hide the evidence and refuse to let me address them, yet you gave PatCheng plenty of opportunities to defend himself. And you already deemed me guilty in the Blue Canoe case where you operated under the assumption that I'm a sock as if I'm guilty until proven innocent.--LucasGeorge (talk) 08:07, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
 * To protect your privacy, the off-wiki evidence cannot be revealed on-wiki because, , and your current account have never disclosed it on-wiki. However, I am able to share it with the reviewing administrator via email. The reviewing administrator may, at their discretion, provide you with the details via email if your response is needed. —  Newslinger  talk   10:39, 23 September 2020 (UTC)