User talk:Lucielu

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January 2019
Thank you for your contributions. Please mark your edits, such as your recent edits to Colony collapse disorder, as "minor" only if they are minor edits. In accordance with Help:Minor edit, a minor edit is one that the editor believes requires no review and could never be the subject of a dispute. Minor edits consist of things such as typographical corrections, formatting changes or rearrangement of text without modification of content. Additionally, the reversion of clear-cut vandalism and test edits may be labeled "minor". Thank you. Captain Eek Edits Ho Cap'n! 19:44, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Lucielu (talk) 12:37, 22 January 2019 (UTC) Oh sorry I just added the references from the French wikipedia page and one additional lign from it, I didn't knew it was not considered minor since it's just translation of already approved content from wikipedia and it's just 1 line+ reference links. However since I make many mistakes I do correct it 10 times which can look heavy in the edit history I'm sorry. But it's noted, next time I won't check the "minor box" then, thank you for your inpute and help! Goodbye.

AIRcorn (talk) 09:39, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Block
You've now exceeded the one revert you are entitled to make per 24 hours (see above). Normally, I would go with a warning, but calling other editors "trolls" elsewhere is not acceptable (and, ironically, you are the one erasing content, without an explanation, I should add). Therefore, you've been blocked for 24 hours. Please take your suggestions to article talk page/s once the block expires. El_C 09:55, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

ANSWER

You blocked me for posting college education backed by peer-reviewed studies. What other term than "trolling" is there to qualify your behavior?

Here is the explanation of what I erased (a peer reviewed study): https://www.researchgate.net/publication/271832528_No_scientific_consensus_on_GMO_safety

Now it's your turn to give an explanation for the erase + block you just did. Until you give one, you can fairly be called a troll.

Please is there any one who could tell me where I can report him. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucielu (talk • contribs)


 * Contest the block with the template right here on this page. El_C 10:06, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Beside contesting the block, how do I report the user who did it, so that he no longer troll on wikipedia?


 * vandalised Lucielu (talk) 10:11, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
 * You can make an unblock request here using Unblock. You can report them at WP:ANI, or at least someone else can as you are blocked. I would not recommend that though. I am the uneducated troll you were referring to in that edit summary, not El_C. They blocked you, but I was the one reverting your edits. I would recommend you at least have a look at WP:GMORFC before reentering the discussion. A lot of time and effort went into getting the wording sorted. You might want to browse Arbitration/Requests/Case/Genetically modified organisms to get an idea of just how much effort and why it was necessary. You are editing in a controversial area and admins generally have less patience for unconstructive conduct. AIRcorn (talk) 10:12, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

You cannot behave like a troll (erase scientific content with serious peer-reviewed sources) and complain to be called a troll. I would advice you to not behave like a troll rather than blaming people for calling you such when you do so.


 * vandalised. Lucielu (talk) 10:18, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Please exhibit restraint and refrain from personal attacks, or your access to even editing this page will be removed. El_C 10:21, 2 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Please trolling is not allowed on wikipedia so you may refrain from doing so AIRcorn or El_C — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucielu (talk • contribs)


 * Your access to editing this page has been revoked for the remainder of your block. El_C 10:29, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

--UTRSBot (talk) 10:52, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

I don’t have time, nor desire, to fight teenage trolls like AIRcorn or EL_C who repeatedly erase serious well-sourced content without backing their erase with any source = wikipedia’s definition of trolling thus calling them trolls is not a personal attack, it’s wikipedia’s official definition/characterization of their behavior. If any moderator reads that and has any concerns/wants to avoid that educated people who can contribute seriously, flee Wikipedia because of bored teenagers trolling their content, I advise you to take measures to prevent the users AIRcorn and EL_C from doing it again. If Wikipedia doesn’t care or support their trolling, well I highly recommend anyone educated to leave this website and stop contributing. If they let teenagers troll and shut down people who provide serious content, no wonder Wikipedia is considered worthless by universities. Another yahoo answers where trolls are the rulers and where moderators are fine with that. Whatever, I sent a report on them, now it’s up to Wikipedia to choose which editorial line it wants to favor, information or kids trolling, it ain’t my problem anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucielu (talk • contribs)


 * You have now been blocked for an additional week for continuing to edit war and personally attack other editors. El_C 13:57, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Lucielu, you're lucky someone as kind and lenient as El_C got to the block button first, as I was going to impose an indefinite block for your persistent edit warring and personal attacks (including via WP:UTRS) despite your having been told multiple times to stop both. Once this block expires, you have a choice -- stop edit warring and stop making personal attacks, or stop editing altogether. If you don't choose either voluntarily, the latter will be imposed on you. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:03, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * And to correct an apparent misunderstanding, while a source is required when inserting new content or changing existing content, a source is not required for removing content or for reverting additions or changes. And the mere presence of a source for an addition or a change is not sufficient to justify the addition or change if it is contested, and it is *not* trolling to revert a change just because it is sourced. When you make an addition or a change and it is reverted, if you want to reinstate it then it is your responsibility to start a discussion on the article talk page and seek consensus - and not reinstate your desired version until you have gained that consensus. There is no such requirement on anyone reverting your changes. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

--UTRSBot (talk) 14:28, 3 April 2019 (UTC) Based on your continued personal attacks against another editor in the above UTRS appeal, refusal to drop the stick and generally unreceptive attitude, I have extended this to an indefinite block. Reviewing administrators, please note that the extension is not an arbitration enforcement block, and (since the original AE block has already expired) should be treated as a normal block for disruptive editing and personal attacks. Yunshui 雲 水 14:37, 3 April 2019 (UTC) --UTRSBot (talk) 17:22, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Apparent sock at User:Acount3636. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:59, 3 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Another sock, User:Coconutcoconut, reverted. This page is now semi-protected. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 22:05, 3 April 2019 (UTC)