User talk:LucindaBallard

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Thank you for the welcoming message. I have a rather pressing question: on the page for Peter Pennoyer, to which I added several changes/improvements, the warning signs at the top still exist. There are now references/citations, and the page is most certainly from a neutral point of view--it is informational and factual rather than opinionated anyway. The warnings don't need to be there. How/when will they disappear? Thanks so much.
 * Hi Lucinda! Thanks a lot for your contributions. Before I get to anything, please try to sign your posts with four tildes ( ~ ) when you're editing talk pages; that way, people can easily see who said what and when.


 * As I said, your contributions are much appreciated. However, the article still has a bit of a biased tone; for example, the opening sentence states that Pennoyer's firm "... is recognized for combining an inventive spirit with an erudite grasp of architectural history..."; adjectives such as "erudite" and "inventive" can skew a page towards one point of view or another.
 * Of course, there's an exception; if a widely-recognized source (i.e. the New York Times) has said these things, we could surround them with quotes and stick a reference to the original citation at the end of the sentence. That way, everything is attributed to a source, and the article is more neutral for it.
 * Once these issues are addressed, the boxes at the top can easily be removed. However, for now, they should stay until some of the kinks are worked out.
 * If you have any questions, concerns, or would just like some help, feel free to contact me at my talk page! Cheers, m.o.p  18:12, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for your feedback. I re-read the page and agree it seemed biased in some ways. I just made some more changes--removing words "erudite" and "learned" and fully removing the section on design, which I think was biased. Are these changes sufficient to remove the warnings? Thanks! (LucindaBallard (talk) 19:33, 10 November 2009 (UTC))
 * I'll look it over right now and remove them if I see fit. Thanks again for helping build Wikipedia! And an additional thanks for signing. Cheers, m.o.p  19:38, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I've reworked the article; you can see a list of my changes here. There are still a few awards that need sourcing, but I've made it neutral. How does it look to you? m.o.p  20:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for reworking the article. It looks great. I added two citations to the recognition section. I removed the two awards I cannot find documentation for, and will add them back when I can properly cite them. Does this look better in terms of sourcing? Thanks again. (LucindaBallard (talk) 21:21, 10 November 2009 (UTC))
 * It looks much better! I'll format the references and remove the box. Great work! m.o.p  21:39, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
 * I hid the Family Friends reference because it doesn't mention Pennoyer by name. However, everything else looks great; as always, more citations are welcome, but the article is looking a lot better. Regards, m.o.p  21:47, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you so much for your help. (LucindaBallard (talk) 21:51, 10 November 2009 (UTC))
 * No problem! I'm leaving the house in a bit, so I won't be around for a while; if you'd like to, you can leave me messages here or on my talk page. Best, m.o.p  22:06, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks again for your helpfulness. Just wondering if there are other suggestions for improvements because the other warning is still there? Just wondering! (38.104.67.42 (talk) 16:37, 11 November 2009 (UTC))
 * I have removed the other tag (BLP Unreferenced), as sources are present! --  Phantom Steve  ( Contact Me, My Contribs ) 16:49, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you! (LucindaBallard (talk) 17:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC))