User talk:Lugnuts/Archive 13

Happy New Year!
Happy 2010 Your Lugness. I was possessed by Derek Acorah on New Years Eve see here (I was a little drunk). If you don't know what I mean google either Mary loves dick or kreed kafer. Actually on youtube type in mary loves dick. It had me in stitches when he pretends to be possessed and his face contorts as he says yes that's it Mary loves dick" and obviously stifling laughter! LOL have you seen any of the List of Most Haunted episodes? It is actually quite entertaining but after I found out about mary and dick and kreed kafer, a South African jailor invented and given to Derek as actual history made me think that everything in the entire series is a fake... which is a shame as I want serious investigations! . I will try to get all of the Italian (and French if possible) films listed by year this year. Also we need to get the earlier British film lists started, any help would be great. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 21:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

Same here actually. I rarely watch TV. I watch them on youtube! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:44, 2 January 2010 (UTC)

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Winter storm
Do you think you could wait until the requested move is up yet before doing a bold move? Talk:December 2009 European snowfall. Simply south (talk) 18:13, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that it was a bad title which i why i suggested the move to come up with alternatives. However it should still stand. Simply south (talk) 18:18, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Mwwwoaaaahaaaahaa!Yeah this snow 3 days in row is very weird, especially where I live. It was -7 celsius here last nigh and as low as -21 in Scotland! Apparently that is colder than the south pole at the moment which is in summer (I found that hard to believe). If it is colder than Antarctica up in Scotland now that is something! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:46, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Edit Summary?
Was this summary really necessary? If you disagree with linking the country, why not just delink and note so without the invective? The Template doc notes to list just the country, but does not say not the link them. Simply noting you felt that too common a link would have been far more civil and cooperative. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 18:44, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

United States United States United States United States United States United States United States United States United States United States United States United States Mwwwooahaaaa!! Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:47, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!  Lugnuts  (talk) 14:00, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Split of Japanese film stubs
See WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2010/January. I'm thinking a split like France and Italy... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 14:53, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Civil
Apparently I'm uncivil for merging the same information into an article about guitarists. I'll give him uncivil.... I'm calling you uncivil for redirecting non english title into the english titles. A great offense, worthy of several years imprisonment.... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:32, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

The thing is I moved the list long before the AFD closed as the guitarist article was practically empty. I just can't see how moving the exact same info into a more relevant place that people are going to search for is an "uncivil" thing..... Grrrr... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:03, 16 January 2010 (UTC)

Well once again it comes down to people on here failing to WP:Assume Good Faith. If people seriously thought about that everytime they speak to people they would not accuse editors who are clearly trying to help wikipedia as "uncivil" or in this case giving them warnings over good intentions.... It seems this new editor is probably in school and can only edit at weekends but he shows a lot of potential, he needs help not people yelling at him... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 10:18, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

BLP
LOL now that is a solution!! The thing is if people tackle a few every day that 50,000 list will be empty within a few weeks. It is just paranoia and laziness that we are going to be sued in the meantime. The vast majority of these articles contain accurate and non controversial info than can be quickly sorted out... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:26, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Exactly and to think they would thnk the nuking of articles like Roberta Flack was a solution! Pathetic. Hey have you seen my developments of the Clint Eastwood articles of late? I've now reached Magnum Force! Once the 70s and early 80s are done it will be donwhill from there... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:33, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Interesting. See Rumberas film. Somebody is working on Mexican film, but is not exactly fluent in english and doesn't know about references/BLPs... Dr. Blofeld       White cat 16:54, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

Yeah there is this frantic deletionist streak in people on here at the moment, even myself over non notable bios!!!. Some of the nominations I've come across have been ludicrous based on google hits. I do think we need to delete a lot of articles on really non notable people and cruft but a lot of people find it difficult to distinguish between the two or understand what notability is and end up nominating/deleting articles which most would think within our requirements. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 12:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Articles such as N. T. Rama Rao I despair at. At times I really think it was be easier to delete and restart afresh. What a frickin mess. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:25, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I nuked most of it. Much better, needs to be rewritten.. Dr. Blofeld       White cat 13:32, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Good humour
(barnstar moved to user page)  Lugnuts  (talk) 07:40, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * You are welcome and your practical joke on userpage is awesome! --TheMandarin (talk) 19:08, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks to editors like you, people spend hours of their time arguing. Now I have reported this highly disruptive user page at the ANI : ANI. The admins will start chasing you soon...muhahaha --TheMandarin (talk) 19:25, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks to you and guess what?? Your prediction has come true . LOL! --TheMandarin (talk) 19:40, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Films January 2010 Newsletter
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Newbie
Indeed! I've gone back to my retreat again to plan my summer attack on the Pentagon... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 15:13, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Isn't it hilarious that such is the strict imge policy on here that a tiny 75 year old image like File:LaKermesseHéroique2.jpg is worrying somebody that the film company might sue wikipedia. Absurd.. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 10:35, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Help!
Can you help me try to keep some of the articles I created that have been nominated for deletion. The list is on my talk page--TheMovieBuff (talk) 22:24, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Yikes. See User talk:TheMovieBuff. And we thought his earlier messages were negative! You aint seen nuthin yet! His stubs needing expanding and saving I think.. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 01:05, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

See also Templates for discussion/Log/2010 February 4. The nominator claims that 4 film is not enough to validate having a director template. I'm not sure either way. Any thoughts as to whether she is right? ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 02:06, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

The funny thing is that Collectonian thinks individual episodes of Japanese manga (which as you know is one of my pet hates) are notable for wikipedia but films starring Russell Crowe are not! ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 13:11, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

what is your problem
with Police, Adjective? guidelines say  Wikipedia is not a mere collection of external links, so whenever possible, external links should be converted into references for the article body. Where does it say to remove the external links? If you care about a stub, you should either expand the article yourself, or let others use those highly regarded review links for others to expand. Nergaal (talk) 19:39, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Firstly, what policy says links to reviews should be removed? Secondly, how is adding links to respectable reviews (in New York Times and Boston chronicles) considered spamming/linkspamming? Thirdly, how is removing such links improving the quality of the article, or of wikipedia in general? Nergaal (talk) 20:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, can you tell me from an objective point of view which of these two edits ( and ) is more constructive and which one takes more time to do (including typing reasoning of summary)? Nergaal (talk) 20:20, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Dwarves articles
If you want to take it on yourself to redirect the articles to the Dwarves main article, I won't object to it. But as stand alones, I think they fall under the part of NABLUMS that says "Album articles with little more than a track listing may be more appropriately merged into the artist's main article or discography article, space permitting." Niteshift36 (talk) 10:06, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Hi! I think they're notable in their own right. I recall a couple of them being review in Kerrang in the 90s (odd, that I'd still remember that!) I'll wait to see what the outcomes of the AfDs are.  Lugnuts  (talk) 10:08, 7 February 2010 (UTC)


 * They band might be notable. That doesn't make all their albums notable. If the outcome is delete, then it's delete. I'm offering to withdraw the AfD if they are redirected. Niteshift36 (talk) 10:12, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

Harriet Andersson image
An image from an article that you edited, Harriet Andersson, has been listed at Files for deletion. Please see the to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. - DonCalo (talk) 13:14, 7 February 2010 (UTC)

An article you previously commented in is up for AFD again

 * I am contacting everyone who participated in the previous AFD to inform them the same exact article is up for deletion again. Articles_for_deletion/List_of_The_Simpsons_couch_gags_(2nd_nomination)  D r e a m Focus  04:46, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally Mann


The article Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally Mann has been proposed for deletion. The proposed-deletion notice added to the article should explain why.

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Thanks for your help
Thanks for your help on keeping the Chris Arrowsmith article from deletion. Chris (talk) 00:35, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally Mann
An article that you have been involved in editing, Blood Ties: The Life and Work of Sally Mann, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/. Thank you.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Yappy2bhere (talk) 06:57, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Mark Kemode
I haven't no. It looks interesting though! Oh another AFD?Mmm after I've had my say maybe somebody won't be so "happy2bhere". Yeha I don't know what it is but when people nominate films for deletion they seem to nominate really notable ones rather than some we have which are much less notable!! ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 10:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Email me. I'll respond offline I have something to say... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 11:11, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

I understand. But couldn't you create a seperate email account at something like lugnuts is the man@gmail.com or whatever then so I can speak to you? That way I wouldn't know your real identity... It would be funny though if you turned out to be somebody like Mark Kemode or a well known film critic!! ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 12:23, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

OK no worries then. I'll email you shortly. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 18:23, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Sent.. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 18:39, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Now you know I am truly an "Aevil" doctor eh? Wink wink. Mwwwooahaaahaaaa! Happy editing mate! ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 18:46, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Remember I once said about someday info will became available online about those Argentine films/actors. Check out this. I'll upload a photo of Walter Vidarte shortly, public domain from 1958. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 20:43, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Film lists
I've conspired with my number 2 to produce an evil plan regarding the film lists. See Italian films of 1961. I think I can program the imdb lists on word document to be formatted straight into a table but means I just have to remove the unwanted duel name crap and ratings although the italics kept programming as apostrophes so I had to ignore them. However I'm trying to find a way to place the |- seperators in the table on a seperate line meaning they can be done much quicker. Using this process I should be able to get the titles by year added to all the film lists. I'll try and get Italy done this way and each year list should only take around 5 minutes rather than an hour. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 15:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Yep see Italian films of 1962. Give it a few weeks and I should have the Italian films listed by year at least. France afterwards.... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 16:23, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Ezhiki did try to tell me about excel but I don't have it! If you could do it on excel probably easier can you do this? Basically its copying the imdb lists by year and inserting the titles into tables by year. I think its about time we got the titles added to countries like Italy, France, Spain, Germany, Japan etc by year, so evne if it takes years to start them all we at least have the scope of what we are trying to accomplish. Interested? See here. They are ready to be formatted by year... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 18:07, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

You're Aevil. I'm having to figure it out the hard way... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 20:56, 18 February 2010 (UTC) That's odd. Imdb seem to have changed their way of listing films so i will be unable to copy the lists as I had intended. ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 11:43, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

They seemingly no longer list them in that A-Z format but list them in "top film order" by rating and also put the title in english unless otherwise see this for instance. I only looked on there about two days and it wasn't like it then... If you can find me the old A-Z lists by year and country I can still do it! ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 14:03, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know thats exactly what the problem is. I was counting on the # and listing system to transfer them directly into tabled lists. They are not even in A-Z. How annoying... I will not be able to do what I had intended now... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 14:19, 21 February 2010 (UTC) As an imdb user of course I prefer the new format, they actually look like films now rather than database listing but I was counting on those A-Z numbered lists to draw up the films. Very bad timing.... ‡ Himalayan ‡ ΨMonastery 14:29, 21 February 2010 (UTC)

States
Hello I'm still not 100% sure how states work in templates, but the difference between  and   is that the former always leaves the template collapsed, whereas the latter collapses the template only if there is another template on that page which can itself collapse. E.g. at the bottom of Canada, there are several navigational templates, so you don't want all of them uncollapsed and taking up space, but some of those templates might appear on other articles without the presence of other such navigational templates, so you don't want it to always be collapsed. I hope that makes sense. If you need to respond, please do so on my talk. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:19, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Ara
Hello Lugnuts - You seem to be far too experienced a Wikipedian not to know what the call for citations tag means. The wording of the tag - "Please help by adding reliable sources" is a polite request to editors in general to improve the article with sources. I note a correspondence with a DrBlofeld about the Clint Eastwood article, which lists well over 100 references and is more typical of acceptable sourcing - especially at a time when there has been an ongoing discussion (again, I'm pretty sure you're aware of this) at the admin level of setting deadlines for sufficient sourcing of WP:BLP before they are deleted. One note is not sufficient sourcing, and your suggestion that it is seems to be humorously disingenuous. I can and will add a few citations when I have time, but to avoid potential deletion if the new policy is adopted will require more sourcing than I can do. That's why the tag should remain. Or perhaps a call for a peer review would be better - that is, if you'd like to see virtually every sentence punctuated with a tag. Of the two choices, I think the banner tag is less obtrusive. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 18:35, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Final discussion for Requests for comment/Biographies of living people
Hello, I note that you have commented on the first phase of Requests for comment/Biographies of living people

As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:
 * 1) Proposal to Close This RfC
 * 2) Alternate proposal to close this RFC: we don't need a whole new layer of bureaucracy

Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip  03:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Hello Lugnuts, I think this what you had intended looong back. --TheMandarin (talk) 05:27, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

needs-plot=yes
Hello again, could you please explain this edit. I noticed that it's not the first time you do that, despite the fact the the film in question has no plot description. If some of those tags need to be deleted, it would be very easy for me to help with that, since i edit those talk pages a lot anyway :) --Tired time (talk) 18:57, 28 February 2010 (UTC)


 * Then why can't a bot just remove them all?--Tired time (talk) 19:03, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

WikiProject Films February 2010 Newsletter
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Thanks
Thanks for that, I have been meaning to tidy that list for a while. Hopefully now, all publicly funded FE colleges in England are listed (There are a few residential colleges still to do, as listed in the Adult Residential Colleges Association article, but I have still got to investigate those!). there are probably still a couple of sixth form colleges left to do as well, but I will hunt those down in due course. One question though, I am not very well up on list proceedures - When listing colleges with a saints name (e.g. St Helens College), should these be listed alphabetically as St or Sa? Bleaney (talk) 13:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Gunsmoke episodes
Hi, there. You've helped me in the past on the Mary Pickford filmography and I wondered if you'd be willing to take a look at the List of Gunsmoke television episodes? I'm looking for support to boost it up to FL staus. Thanks. &mdash; Jimknut (talk) 22:24, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Moves
Hi Lugnuts. I noticed you reverted my page moves of The Abyss/The Abyss (1989 film) and Hud (film)/Hud (1963 film) citing WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Could you explain more in depth why you did so? BOVINEBOY 2008 ) 19:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

Stub templates including non-stub categories?
With edits such as this, are you sure that's a good idea? Once the article graduates from stub, it will no longer have the category unless it is hard coded onto the page. Why not just hard-code the cats onto the page from the get-go? –xenotalk 20:12, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I agree that the cat should be hard-coded already, but it's often not. A quick experiment on the 1980s drama stubs shows before the edit there was 790+ articles in the cat Category:1980s drama films, and post-edit 1,025!  Lugnuts  (talk) 20:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * So wouldn't a better solution be to request a bot or AWB user to add the non-stub cat to anything transcluding the stubs? –xenotalk 20:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Go for it!  Lugnuts  (talk) 20:27, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Bah... –xenotalk 20:29, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Other reasons not to do: if the category is actually wrong, users will be confused as they can't find the category in the wiki text; the stub templates get included with a major sortkey in the non-stub category. –xenotalk 20:50, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
 * I've replied at my talk. –xenotalk 18:13, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Youth in Crisis
Hi there, I noticed you created the above article way back in 2008. Do you happen to have a realiable source that says Louis De Rochemont is the producer. No big deal but it would great if you could help me out as I have been trying to find a source for this list without success. -- intraining  Jack In  21:31, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Request for help
Good afternoon. I had appealed to Your colleague LGF1992UK, but decided that "two heads are better than one" (old russian expression). I need Your help here:


 * In the high attention area - nominated for deletion
 * Hit Back - nominated for deletion
 * In the high attention area 2 - nominated for deletion
 * Terminate the Thirtieth!

If You will find some time, I appreciate it. -- SerdechnyG (talk) 12:45, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Coordinator election discussion
A new discussion has started about the next term coordinator election. Please join in with your thoughts so we can quickly get this moving along. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:11, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Fencers
You welcome. Always glad to help. :) - Darwinek (talk) 10:47, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

What's this? You run out of films? Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

It's nice to see someone doing a proper job with Olympic competitors! I changed a couple of your fencers from "Year of death missing" to "Possibly living people" though, since it's possible (although unlikely) that some of those born in the later 1900s without dates of death are still alive. It's all very complicated you see. :) Keep up the good work! Canadian   Paul  15:54, 27 March 2010 (UTC)