User talk:Lugnuts/Archive 22

The Godfather ... again!
Make him an offer he can't refuse.  Lugnuts  (talk) 17:40, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I had hoped to be taken seriously this time. Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:32, 2 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Cry me a river.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:34, 2 April 2012 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Trenton Oldfield
I realize that you didn't create the actual article, but I thought you might be interested in the discussion. Take care. --Bongwarrior (talk) 11:26, 8 April 2012 (UTC)

Talk:Legends_and_myths_regarding_RMS_Titanic
Since you seem to be a recent editor for Legends_and_myths_regarding_RMS_Titanic, please see my post on (above) talk page.

Australian cricket team in the West Indies in 2011–12
Where are "the other articles/naming conventions" that tell us to put 2011 in the name of this tour? It seems really weird to me. HiLo48 (talk) 09:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks for that. What bothers me is that they just look like more bad examples. Where's the policy? What are the rules? Are there guidelines? I simply cannot see how it works? England's cricket season never goes over two years, yet we have English cricket team in Sri Lanka in 2011–12. When does "2011–12" finish? How do we record, say, an Australian tour to England, which happens in their summer, never over two years? Has there been a discussion on this? 17:39, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

In The News/Recurring Items
I am posting here to ask for editors to look at In_the_news/Recurring_items and to comment at the talk page to discuss/vote on an amendment to the ITN/R list. I am posting this message on a number of editor's talk pages to encourage debate.

In connection to an ongoing debate on which items can appear on the front page under "In The News", "Recurring Items" are nominated events which require very little debate in the nomination process.

I propose the following amendment to the current ITN/R list. In addition I will put this on the talk page of as many editors as I can find who are contributors to ITN/C

At In_the_news/Recurring_items, I propose the following amendment to section 3:


 * At line 5, delete "and", and add after "territories" the words "and the world's twenty smallest nations".

Section 3, Line 5 would then read:


 * Disputed states, dependent territories and the world's twenty smallest nations should be discussed at WP:ITN/C and judged on their own merits.

I look forward to the debate doktorb wordsdeeds 07:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Florence Lee
I was going to change this myself, but I saw that you've been working on the page, so maybe you know something more. Even though Lee's YOB according to the IMDB is 1858, nearly every other source, including the Library of Congress has her born in 1888, which would make a lot more sense considering that she looks a lot closer to 23 than 53 in the picture that was probably taken c. 1911. Thoughts? Canadian  Paul  17:26, 17 April 2012 (UTC)


 * I couldn't find anything, so I'm going to go ahead and make the change. Thanks! Canadian   Paul  17:39, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Louise Latimer
Dear Lugnuts,

I like to bring to your attention that Louise Latimer (American film actor born 1916) has been confused with Louise Latimer (born 1978, January 19) who is a British tennis player.

Please inspect this list.

Also refer to her WTA profile and her ITF profile.

Since I am only a guest at English Wikipedia, I hope that you can separate these two persons.

Kind regards, Vinkje83 (talk) 19:14, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

Silvio Fernández (fencer born 1946)
Hi! Well, modern medicine works miracles… I mean thanks for fixing my mistake ^^; Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:25, 19 April 2012 (UTC)

Cannes
I am mindful of Cannes's claim to the most prestigious film festival. Perhaps Toronto, Sundance, Berlin, or others with some purchase on that title could be listed? Restricted to film festivals, of course. Does it seem out of place? --Ring Cinema (talk) 14:50, 20 April 2012 (UTC)

programmer?
I know an if ... then ... else when I see it. What language(s) do you use?

"If death count >0, then post, else oppose"

--98.203.99.251 (talk) 14:58, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

That gum you like is going to come back in style
Hey Lugnuts. I know you've expressed an interest in the past in the works of David Lynch; so I was wondering if you'd mind casting an eye over Episode 2 (Twin Peaks) for me. It's one the few he had such direct involvement in; and I'm hoping to bring it to FA eventually. I've still a few more avenues to exhaust before I submit it for a copy edit and peer review; but in the meantime I'd really appreciate a fellow fan having a look over it in case you might know of anything I've neglected in there. Thanks in advance. 20:03, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up
Thank you for showing me that discussion on the WikiProject film talk page. I had thought about starting a topic a few days ago and searched through the archives, but did not have time to get my thoughts across. Now I feel dumb for not having checked the talk page before starting my section. I have now moved up my comment to the earlier section. Aspects (talk) 13:43, 27 April 2012 (UTC)

Sandwell
Hey Lugnuts. I've redirected the Sandwell disambig page to Sandwell local elections. The "X local elections" format is the one the project has agreed to use, there's no need for an extra page. doktorb wordsdeeds 08:00, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Re: Message. No, I won't, thanks all the same. The article is about the election to Sandwell council. It is not, therefore, about very specific elements of the campaign. Can you point me to any other similar article where this has been permitted? You should remain civil and not threaten me with reporting. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:44, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Film Afghanistan
Template:Film Afghanistan has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:21, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

"Complete failure of an admin"
What's this summary supposed to mean? Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 11:27, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Local election articles
Can you please ensure you carry out the two following pieces of "administration" in conjunction with your current article creating binge?

Each local election article has a "base" - such as Preston local elections, Hull local elections and so on. These MUST have the most recent election article linked from them. So for all the 2012 election articles you are creating, you must include a direct link on these pages. I did this for you at Sandwell local elections, as you had created an unnecessary disambiguation page.

Each local election article must be linked from the yearly 'index', by way of a direct link and the word "Details" wiki-linked. You can see that throughout the article. I notice this has not yet been done - can you make sure you do so to maintain the consensus layout?

Thanks, doktorb wordsdeeds 12:40, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your uncivil, unhelpful response. As you may be unaware of the situation, let me try to explain.

There is a dwindling number of editors at our project, and as you may be aware having researched the other articles before starting the creation binge, adding candidates for each and every ward is a very time-consuming process. This is why there are so many "gaps" - we tend to only work as and when we can. I am sure you can get satisfaction from starting dozens of stub articles, without breaking sweat, but the real work involved is centered around actually putting in the effort to continue and complete each and every article to an acceptable degree.

As you may not be aware, people don't want to read stubs. They look to election articles for election results. Your actions have made our work 100 times harder - we now have to follow your creations around, spending time adding each and every ward, and each and every candidate, to sustain the standard people expect.

Rather than creating vandalism reports or running off to create articles at haste, you should have considered what each article entails, talked with people involved to see what is expected, and then focused on specific areas. Why only create Sandwell with one (incorrect) ward? Why do you expect other editors to complete your work for you? If you were expecting praise for creating dozens of stub-articles without even a passing reference to previous elections, you're mistaken. Please can you now go back to the start and help rather than hinder? doktorb wordsdeeds 13:01, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

You are missing the point, perhaps deliberately. Let me try again.

As I have stated above and elsewhere, election articles have been subject to deletion attempts in the past. As part of the post-AfD process, the community agreed to create articles only with enough information to justify their existence. That is why, as you should see were you able to research these things, my contributions ensure each article has ward-by-ward, candidate-by-candidate content.

Your creation binge is not helpful. You have not included anything which is expected by the project, nor have you done the two tasks I asked of you earlier, two tasks which are EXPECTED to be done by any other editor doing what you're doing. All we ask is you complete the task you've started. You are shirking your responsibilities by not doing. All I am asking, nicely, is that you fill in the candidate details, for each ward, and complete the "index" page at United Kingdom local elections, 2012. In effect, you are creating orphan articles which someone else, probably me, will have to sweep up behind you.

That isn't fair. That isn't in the spirit of the project. That isn't mature. You're trying to get praise and attention for creating stub articles without doing any of the important work - no wards, no candidates, no election result summaries, no maps, nothing. You have not gone to the 'hub' pages, such as Wigan local elections or Chorley local elections to add links to the 2012 articles. You are creating other editors more work to do. In short, you're not being fair, reasonable, or very helpful.

As I said, there is a reason why there are so many "gaps" in the election article coverage = we'd rather have full articles with each and every candidate created slowly, than 100s of stub articles creating quickly.

Can you please see things from my perspective - you're not being helpful to the project because you're not doing all the small, fiddly bits that take up the most time and effort. Can you please fix things as I have requested, nicely, to ensure the project is maintained to its usual standard?

We need wards, candidates, the index page updating, each and every "X local elections" article updating and if possible election summaries added to each article - can you see now why I'd rather you didn't rush off being so eager to please?

doktorb wordsdeeds 13:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

"Just go ahead and do it then"

I am trying to remain civil here, though it seems you really just don't get the point I am making.

Do you know how many candidates stand in local elections? Do you know how long each article takes to create as a result? You are doing all the easy work without wanting to get your hands dirty, therefore making it harder on the rest of us to make articles the best that they can be.

This is a very busy time for our project - polling day is this week and as such we have to be on our guard against people adding erroneous results, POV content and all the rest of it. As I said, there's a reason in our project for the gaps/red links to exist - we'd rather create good articles slowly (with wards and candidates) than stub articles in haste. By creating all these stub articles, you are making life very difficult for the rest of us.

I ask you again, please can you now do all the fiddly administrative stuff which is expected when a specific year election article is created? Can you at least accept your responsibility in this regard? Orphan articles are not to be encouraged, and they are all you seem to be in a hurry to create. I am not a rude or uncivil editor though your current list of contributions is making my head swirl - all you are doing is creating a pile of work that someone else is going to have to complete. I call that, in polite terms, somewhat selfish of you. Please can you now become more co-operative. doktorb wordsdeeds 13:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

In eight years of editing I have not come across such an editor as you. Your actions and attitude are totally irresponsible - you have created articles with no intention of helping out the project to which they belong. I am really frustrated at the attitude you have shown in doing this - unhelpful, disruptive and wholly ignorant. By doing what you have done, without care to the wider context, you have made it very difficult for the rest of us.

I ask again - and expect an answer - do you know how many candidates stand in local elections, and therefore how much time will now have to be taken to fill in the articles to the expected standard? I urge you - please - to go back to the start and fill in the administrative bits I asked you to do at the start of this process. Can you please help the project fully?

This Friday, by the way, the results of these elections will be coming in. Can you please tell me how long do you think it'll take to complete the results for the articles you have created?

Do you care? doktorb wordsdeeds 13:41, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

You can cite policy all you like - it does not change the fact that you are one of the least co-operative editors I have ever experienced in eight years.

I can now cite myself proof and evidence that you are uncivil (see my talk page), uncooperative (see the requests I have made that you have not heeded), ignorant of the project (as you have not researched the number of wards or candidates involved in each election, not to mention the fact that you have no realised that polling day is this Friday) and unable to talk to anyone in the project page. You have not asked ANYONE if it's workable to create so many stubs. You have not asked ANYONE if it's okay to add so many stubs without any intent to fill in the administrative extras as requested.

I urge you, please, to now help the project fully. Why are you so unwilling to do the small bits, but so eager to create so many articles? Are you getting paid? Are you playing some kind of article creation game?

I despair at the consequences of your actions doktorb wordsdeeds 13:51, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Oh look, you quote yet more policy! Do you read policy rules in bed to make sure you can cite them so often? Do you set yourself a rule of "one policy citation per reply"?

I ask you another question. Why have you created so many articles without consultation with the rest of us in the project? Why did you not ask anyone for guidance of what is expected from these articles?

Do you not realise how disruptive you have been? Let me tell you what you have missed out after being so "helpful".

You have missed out wards, candidates, election summaries, relevant templates, links from the "index" page, links from the "hub" page and in those cases where they already exists, local authority maps.

Can you PLEASE now go back to the start of this discussion with me, and fill in the links as I requested you to do so? This is the very minimum work that is expected from editors in the politics/election project.

Again, I have to say, you are the most uncooperative editor I have ever met. You do not answer questions, you do not carry out the most basic tasks even when asked. I despair at what has happened today. doktorb wordsdeeds 14:01, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

You are being deliberately obtuse.

Can you please provide direct answers to my questions:


 * 1) Will you fill in the internal links to each and every election article you have created as I requested?
 * 2) Will you fill in the internal links to each and every "hub" page X local elections as I requested?
 * 3) Will you fill in each and every ward, with each and every candidate, for each and every article you have created, as requested?
 * 4) Will you discuss your actions and co-operative with the UK politics/election project?

I have no idea what point you're making about cannabis so ignore that completely doktorb wordsdeeds 14:13, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

You have not answered my questions. I therefore conclude you have no intention of answering my questions, of being cooperative to me or the project, and your sign off ("Now to do the Welsh elections!") is clearly a sign that you are disruptive and therefore only completing articles in contradiction to the WP:POINT policy.

By the way, some advice. The Isle of Anglesey does not have elections this year so you don't need to create that article, and Ceredigion has already been completed.

I have no idea what point you're making about cannabis so ignore that completely. doktorb wordsdeeds 14:26, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I have a job, and time away from Wikipedia. I do not need instructions from the likes of you. In any case, I've been working, watching the Manchester Derby, and now relaxing before bed.

You are being rude, uncivil, disruptive and un-cooperative. I have no confidence in you as an editor willing to work for the greater good of the project you have so rudely parachuted into. You have not discussed anything with the people involved in this project, and have continued to act despite me asking you to work with us.

You have no answered any of my questions.

You refuse to carry out any of the basic tasks I have asked you to do as a common courtesy.

If you are un-cooperative towards the project, I cannot find any middle ground at which we can meet. doktorb wordsdeeds 21:49, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

There was no such event in Oldham that I can find. If there was something to prove your claims, it is your responsibility to find it.

I have used the local council's references, as the project has done each and every time. You are new to the project and therefore did not realise that local council SOPNs can be used as references. Had you asked before hand, you would have known this.

I am not being rude. You have filled my talk page with sarcasm, flippancy, rudeness, incivility and goading.

doktorb wordsdeeds 08:59, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

You are showing signs of not understanding your own sources. That was a constituency in a general election (not in Oldham, either, by the way). We are dealing with local authority elections. Can you confirm that you know the difference between the two? As someone who is now apparently part of the project I trust you understand fully the information you are dealing with? doktorb wordsdeeds 09:58, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Direct question - does "you better get cracking with those stub expansions" mean you are not willing to assist me in doing so? You said earlier this morning to me - "I've never said I wont help, infact, quite the opposite". Can you confirm that you're now instructing me to complete the work you started, in direct violation of the way in which Wikipedia works? There is no "command and obey", there is consensus, cooperation and team work. Can you confirm that "you better get cracking" implies that you are ordering an editor to do work? doktorb wordsdeeds 10:05, 1 May 2012 (UTC)#

Another direct question, another obtuse fudge from you. I'll try again - can you please confirm that you wrote "You better get cracking with those stub expansions" because you are ordering me to do your work? doktorb wordsdeeds 10:35, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Another direct question, another lack of an answer. I have provided candidates for each and every ward in a number of articles this morning. Can you tell me what you have done please? doktorb wordsdeeds 10:39, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Are you going to provide full candidate details? doktorb wordsdeeds 10:44, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Another direct question, another lack of an answer. CRYSTAL does not apply when each council authority has published its SOPN, don't you agree? doktorb wordsdeeds 10:54, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Another direct question, another lack of an answer. Are you going to include full candidate details? doktorb wordsdeeds 11:09, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Blaenau Gwent
Blaenau Gwent is a County Borough - see here, and also you should have noticed Ceredigion County Council election, 2012 has already been created. Can you please make yourself aware of the nature of Welsh local governance before creating articles with incorrect titles? doktorb wordsdeeds 13:33, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Wrong. It is the responsibility of the article creator to do research prior to article creation. Such as, amongst other things getting the title of the council correct, sourcing ward details and candidate names. Please ensure you research your articles correctly in future to avoid any further errors in this regard. It is very time consuming for editors who know the subject matter to chase these things when they could be so easily avoided. doktorb wordsdeeds 13:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Notification
Please be advised of this post -

Many thanks

doktorb wordsdeeds 13:51, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Chortle.

Leeds Metropolitan Borough Council election, 2012
Where a page is part of a long series of existing articles which have titles in a clear pattern, as seen in Category:Council elections in West Yorkshire, it is unhelpful to the encyclopedia to move a page to a different pattern of title without consulting other editors. I have moved this page to a less bad new version (the Council is "Leeds City Council"), and will set up a WP:RM to get it moved back to its previous title. Please do not make further moves breaking existing conventions, but discuss any proposed title changes first. Pam D  14:03, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Copied from my talk page to keep discussion in one place Pam  D  14:12, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi Pam. Thanks for your helpful post. I was only going by the example doktorb posted on my talkpage in regards to Blaenau Gwent. I guess he made a mistake. Thanks again.  Lugnuts  (talk) 14:06, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * The fact that you moved a group of articles from long-established patterns of names, and immediately edited the redirects so that your moves could not be reverted, looks to me like WP:POINT: disrupting the encyclopedia as part of a dispute with another editor, to make a point. Please stop such destructive behaviour. Pam  D  14:12, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Do you agree that these pages should not have been moved, so that we can use the "non-controversial moves" process to get them put back to their correct titles? Pam  D  14:13, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Why did you edit the redirects? This is not normal practice. Pam  D  14:21, 1 May 2012 (UTC)

Wavelength
Hi L. Re your reply on the 3D discussion. The fact that you were on the same wavelength is fun. I do remember the scene you described and I think that I have seen a few editors do the same thing here it WikiP. To be honest I might have gotten as far as the curtains a time or two as well. The second film is the last thing that was shown at the Ogden Theater (it now hosts live music) in Denver CO. It was our revival theater changing films almost daily. They had a Pasolini festival on Thursdays sometime back in the 80's and that is when I saw Salo. When they showed his The Canterbury Tales there was a wave of gasps and whispers when Tom Baker - slapping his unit standing naked in the wooden tub - showed up onscreen. That can be explained by the fact that The Dr Who Fan Club of America was based here. I saw Santa Sangre on the theaters last night and it was quite a party. Viewing it is a trip - in the way that all of Jodorowsky's films are a trip. Thanks for the smile and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:19, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Marnette asked me to share my opinion of Salo with you and tbh, I thought I was beyond shock. Whatever the hell was happening there...I do not know. I get that there was an exploration of human depravity but there didn't seem to be any real point, just evil people doing very evil things without repercussion. Especially the end torture/murders. It was interesting but a disturbing vision. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:44, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi again. I was channel surfing the a couple nights ago and came across a cable channel that was showing this film that belongs on our list. In truth several of that directors films could be on the list. This one does contain one of the great revenge endings of all time. Have a great weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 20:17, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Your user page
Please remove that orange "You have new messages" bar. Such bars are expressly prohibited in WP:SMI (yours comes within the definition of "banners that in both wording and color closely resemble the one listed at #User talk notification") and, to be honest, it makes other editors less likely to WP:AGF by setting up a context of irritation at this fake message the first time anyone clicks on your signature. By all means have jokes for editors who want to look at jokes, but please remove this one which inconveniences and irritates serious editors who are trying to edit an encyclopedia and have not opted in to your sense of humour. Pam D  09:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of When the Night for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article When the Night is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/When the Night until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. DocTree (talk) 05:06, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

List of film accidents
Can you think of any?♦ Dr. Blofeld  16:58, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

Can you add em to Hong Kong films of 2011?♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

just to let you know...
Kind of disturbing to see an English-only bias promoted in an AFD nomination, or worse that someone could feel a panned film could somehow not possibly be notable under the applicable guideline. I predict a blizzard. Toward other news, see a new DYK nomination. Best,  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Glad you've been looking in. It was not too difficult to find sources speaking about "official" announcement, casting, pre-production, and filming, so as to expand the "production" section.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 09:25, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Giulio Rinaldi
Thank you for the comment the other day on my talk page, Lugnuts! If you're interested in boxing, which apparently you are, you might want to check out this boxing book called Lineage Unbroken: The Complete Lineal Tracing of World Heavyweight Championship Boxing (Post-Marciano Era) 1956-2003. Giulio Rinaldi is even listed in it as a lineal light-heavyweight champion, from having beaten Archie Moore, then losing back to him. Again, thank you very much! --BoxingGoMan (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

New Messages Bar
I have deleted the fake new messages bar from your user page. It can be highly disruptive and irritating to serious editors. It is also a clear violation of WP:SMI and was ruled illegal in this RFC. Thank you for your understanding.  B zw ee bl  (talk) 02:30, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Pray to Kill and Return Alive for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Pray to Kill and Return Alive is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Pray to Kill and Return Alive until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. I am alerting you because it appears the nominator may have missed you.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:42, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Request
If you wish, can you please comment at Wikipedia_talk:Categorization? It's about the doc films category, which you've also done a lot of work with. An editor has got me tearing my hair out, over the silliest (imo) issue. If you think I'm wrong, please say so. I'd value a knowledgeable opinion, either way. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 05:44, 14 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Yep. I agree entirely that edit warring by both of us over a template is silly. -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 05:58, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

DYK for When the Night

 * Shubinator (talk) 19:23, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Moved to Userpage.  Lugnuts  (talk) 10:48, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you
The situation has been resolved anyway, at least for now, and I'm just taking a little break. I had considered stopping work diffusing the doc films parent category given what I feel is a lack of respect for such work, but I suppose there's no logic to punishing the project on the basis of one individual's poor behaviour. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:32, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Isabelle Huppert Filmography
It isn't the practice to put links into every movie for some actor's filmography page. Check out the works of John Wayne, Jimmy Stewart, to name a few examples. Hatari! and The Cowboys and all the rest of Wayne's 61-76 doesn't link to the filmography page for Wayne's work in those years. How about Peter O'Toole who has a filmography page and was in Rosebud with Huppert. Articles on films of his don't link.

Many of the articles link to Huppert's bio article. In two or more instances and if it's three then WP:OVERLINK applies

The links are a form of internal WP:SPAM....William 22:24, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Wrong - they aid navigation to a very important related article that would otherwise be orphaned.  Lugnuts  (talk) 09:48, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * First of all respond here, not at my talk page. It keeps the discussion together.


 * Not wrong. It's the nature of the beast or the way these list articles are done. Honestly I don't care much for list articles or unnecessary See Alsos(See my user page). You're fixated on Huppert, and created a list article and links to it that aren't done elsewhere. The orphan argument while true, doesn't apply because it's just Huppert you think an exception should be made for....William 16:33, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * No, it happens to alot of actors/actresses and their filmographies. Thanks for your contribution.  Lugnuts  (talk) 16:35, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Do not reply at my talk page. I've brought it to the film talk page. Respond there and we'll see what the consensus is....William 17:15, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Good!  Lugnuts  (talk) 16:53, 19 May 2012 (UTC)


 * I've asked you twice not to post to my talk page on this. One more time and I will file a Wikiquette assistance complaint....William 16:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Please be civil
You have been on wikipedia long enough to know about out civility policy and how this edit summary is in violation of it. Please be aware that civility is not an option here and if you keep up the attitude you will sooner or later be blocked for it. If you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything at all! Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 08:25, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Also: Personal attacks (Even boarder line ones!) such as this are generally frowned upon and as such are inadvisable. If you are getting frustrated with wikipedia then just walk away. If this happens frequently maybe consider getting a mentor that can show you areas of wikipedia where you do not get frustrated. Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 08:49, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * (Copied from my talk page)But that last comment is true. Thanks for you time.  Lugnuts  (talk) 08:52, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Even if it IS true it is generally better not to say it, people who "Tell it like it is" often find that the only thing they are saying is muffled beyond recognition due to a block. It's better to keep comments like that to yourself so that people who want to see you blocked (And trust me; there ARE!) have as little material to use as possible. Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 08:56, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * (Copied from my talk page)Hmmm, sounds like a threat to me. Name and shame. Oh wait, don't tell me - you can't.  Lugnuts  (talk) 09:01, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Correct *ding*! Barts1a / Talk to me / Help me improve 09:54, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
 * So bullshit as I thought all along.  Lugnuts  (talk) 11:59, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Otis Clark
To answer your question: "why not just remove the sentence..." - So that the inexperienced people working/creating (many of them here just because they knew him or belong to his church) the article - which I Wikified a lot already, can get a sense of what is and isn't acceptable - speaking of which, why would a Wikipedian of your experience remove the stub-class tag?Paradise coyote (talk) 18:20, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * re: cause it ain't a stub:...ok buddy... ...whatever...Paradise coyote (talk) 19:33, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism of The White Ribbon
I notice that you have contributed to the vandalizing of the article on The White Ribbon. I'm not sure why you would do that. I would suggest you read the article. It is clear that there was a public dispute about the nationality of this film: Austrian or German. No one claimed it is French. I assume you are aware of that. If you're not, you can correct your mistake. --Ring Cinema (talk) 13:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

SFD
Tell me how "six month backlog, page is always backlogged out the ass" is not a "problem". Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 02:12, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of The Road to the Wall


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Irony
The irony of your comment at Articles for deletion/List of Twitter users is that your comment was 199 characters (including signature and timestamp). --kelapstick(bainuu) 07:13, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
 * HA! Still rather clever though. I think that participating in AfD discussions via Twitter would make them go much smoother, and less confrontational.  You may be onto something. --kelapstick(bainuu) 07:16, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Barney's Version
Hi, "lazy" here is unwarranted. Also, you really think a link to a Globe article on a Canadian movie is linkspam? Unlikely. Hairhorn (talk) 13:20, 31 May 2012 (UTC)

Kind Hearts and Coronets review
Are those two edits it, or are you going to do a more substantial evaluation? I've laid out most of my objections in the talk page. Clarityfiend (talk) 09:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Kaneto Shindo film titles and cast names
Thanks for creating the articles on Kaneto Shindo films. I have brought it up on two of the talk pages but I'm not sure what authority you are using for the English-language titles. Many of Shindo's films were not released abroad and hence don't have authoritative English titles. For example, Ningen. Also, you are putting the actor's names in using circumflexes but this is an error, could you use macrons or nothing? I don't know if you are copying the cast lists from IMDB but IMDB seems to have a technical problem with macrons. JoshuSasori (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

The White Ribbon
Hello, Lugnuts. You reverted my edit with "consensus at WT:FILM shows that this doesn't need to be ref'd". Now, that's quite believable, but the page you wikilinked doesn't say it. Searching in the archives for 'case reference' gives quite a lot of hits, so evidently it has been discussed, but I don't know which of them to look at. It seems to me that if this is a practice of that Wikiproject it ought to be stated clearly somewhere, because on the face of it this could be in contention with WP:BLP. Also, does this mean that my answer to WP:HD is wrong, and she can just add herself to the list anyway? --ColinFine (talk) 18:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Stan Jolley
Stan Jolley - Clearly from your contribution history you are a very experienced and quality contributor but I still want to thank you for your good wiki work and contributions to resolve the report on this article and for sticking with it until you resolved it - Best regards - You  really  can  20:33, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Overlink
Regarding edits like this one that you made to Gypsy (2011 film),, the section WP:OVERLINK says "Avoid linking the names of major geographic features and locations, languages, religions, and common professions." and the section above WP:UNDERLINK says "In general, links should be created to:... proper names that are likely to be unfamiliar to readers." Slovakia, Haiti and Estonia are not major geographic locations and are proper names that are readers are unlikely to be familiar with, therefore they should be linked. Aspects (talk) 03:39, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Could you please explain how Estonia, Haiti, etc. are major geographic features? I have already explained how I feel readers are unlikely to be familiar with them and the links would help them out.  Feel free to continue the conversation here since I am paying attention to your talk page. Aspects (talk) 01:24, 10 June 2012 (UTC)


 * To chime in, Estonia, Haiti and Slovakia are all major geographic features. Talinn or Prešov, etc, would be worth linking but countries tend to be considered quite major and well-known. If someone's that clueless as to have never heard of them, there is a search bar to be used. GRAPPLE   X  01:30, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Skier Dude
What a bitter disappointment. That guy has turned into a one of the image circus freak show folk. He used to be a great guy and used to save a lot of images. Its like he's now working for the wiki devil, intent on mass destruction by trying to delete everything. I regarded him as much as I do you at one time. He's saved a huge amount of images which I always respected him for but I'm sick to the bone of being spammed deletion warnings by him and the side of him which appears to be trying to delete a lot. I'll never understand the need to work solely on image lawyering on wikipedia. Some editors do it like Calliopejen amongst their other work as they feel the images are in a mess on wikipedia and there are some serious vios which need sorting which is fair enough but to do nothing but image lawyering on wikipedia surely defeats the object of why wikipedia exists. Above all I wonder what motivates editors to solely be image policemen. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  05:00, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Twitter issue
As you had participated in the previous AfD, your views would be welcome here Talk:Use_of_Twitter_by_celebrities_and_politicians. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk) 16:31, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

Pearl Jam External Link
Sorry, I'm new at Wikipedia. Could you tell me why you rejected my external link? Is there a place where I can view the causes of a rejected entry?. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Insignificance2002 (talk • contribs) 08:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Nomination of Waveney Council election, 2012 for deletion
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Modern pentathletes
Here's an obituary for when you get to George Lambert, bronze medalist in 1960. His date of death is not on Sports Reference yet, so I thought I'd pass it along. Keep up the good work! Canadian  Paul  15:32, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

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Arthur Smith (fencer)
I'm fine with reverting the DOB and POB changes on Smith (I had forgotten those were new additions and not on SR), but don't you think it might be better to put him in Category:Living people given the circumstances? I doubt two vandals would act months apart on an obscure individual just to claim he was alive. Better safe than sorry maybe? Anyways, just curious. Canadian  Paul  21:15, 28 June 2012 (UTC)