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Blue Jasmine Accolades page
Hi, hope you're well. I've done some recent work on one of your articles: Blue Jasmine using such articles as Black Swan and The Hurt Locker as templates for what a featured list looks like and I was wondering if you thought it was ready for submission as a featured list and if not how it could be improved. The only thing I can think of is that lead in maybe needs more detail but it's hard when the film hasn't been nominated or won comparatively many awards. Many thanks for your assistance. Cowlibob (talk) 17:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Very unhelpful edit comment
this was very unhelful, wrong, and franky WP:UNCIVIL CombatWombat42 (talk) 19:18, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Please stop edit warring.
you are Edit Warring at Henrik Norby, please stop CombatWombat42 (talk) 19:20, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Now that the CSD has been officially declined: CombatWombat was right by the letter of the law, Lugnuts was right by the spirit of the law (IMO); since CSDs can cause an article to be deleted immediately, there was some urgency and thus edit-warring, while still not right, wasn't totally unjustified, so let's call this one a draw, yeah? Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 19:24, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Not right in the spirit, the reson that phrase exsists is that a creator cannot ever be trusted to judge his own work. Lugnuts was edit warring with multiple editors. I am very happy to have you decline, as a matter of fact I probably would have declined, but why is that phrase there if not to stop this exact situation. Maybey Lugnuts, or you should try to have the conseneus template changed? not try to ignore it. CombatWombat42 (talk) 19:34, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Note that Wombat hasn't got a clue what notability is about.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 19:39, 3 April 2014 (UTC)


 * "Cannot ever" is a pretty strong statement; too strong for my taste. Usually, you're right. That rule is in there because very frequently, when someone creates a page that's obviously not acceptable for Wikipedia, their first reaction to a CSD is to remove the tag, which prevents the CSD from being carried out. But this wasn't some spammer who had just created an article or some vandal who had just created an attack page; this was an established editor who had created a short but eminently reasonable stub that had been around for two years without problems. Moreover, keep in mind that this wasn't an A7 (no significance/importance asserted) tag, even though the WP:SPORTCRIT guideline that Lugnuts pointed out in his edit summary would've been plenty to satisfy an A7 tag (which is a lower bar than notability anyway). This was an A3 "no content whatsoever" tag, which was obviously untrue; even though it's a stub, there's plenty of content there, far more than is necessary to satisfy the requirements of A3. This was a completely different case than what the "no removals by author" is intended for, and invoking IAR to remove that tag was eminently reasonable. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 19:42, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * And what was the cost to Wikipedia in folowing policy and allowing any other editor to come along and decline? The way I see it the WP:IAR argument is just about the weakest one ever. I have a problem with people going around ignoring policy because they think they are better than it, which Lugnuts obviously thinks he is, no resonable admin would have speedily deleted that page and we all know it, so why not follow policy? CombatWombat42 (talk) 20:00, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Because it's ridiculous to have to leave a giant CSD tag that isn't even close to applicable while hoping that any admin who is passing along won't delete it out of hand without really looking at it (as much as I dislike it, it happens). There is a time for absolute, inflexible adherence to the rules (dealing with copyright violations comes to mind), but this isn't it. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 20:05, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * So your justification for invoking IAR is "it's ridiculous" in your opinion? That dosn't sound like something a resonable person would say. CombatWombat42 (talk) 20:16, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Well, that's a thought-terminating cliché. "It's ridiculous" is the best, and in some sense the only, good justification for invoking IAR. IAR is a sanity check; it's used in situations where strict adherence to the rules would lead to ridiculous behavior. Keeping a blatantly, objectively wrong tag that puts a real article at risk for immediate deletion because a rule that is designed and intended for a completely different scenario says we have to is ridiculous, and so IAR  can be (and should be) invoked to remove the tag. Writ Keeper &#9863;&#9812; 20:23, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Henrik Norby for deletion
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"Chim Chim Cher-ee"
London is, in fact, full of smog because of all them darned chimbley sweeps, "Moirey Pappins". Martinevans123 (talk) 08:48, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I don't know how else to contact you, please stop editing my comments
Editing my commments, even on your talk page is inappropriate, as you did in this edit, you are welcome to delete the section, but you are not welcome to edit my comments exculsivly. Please see this converstion, you are materialy changing my coments. Please revert your changes. CombatWombat42 (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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 * Hi. I closed the above thread as it seemed like all possible issues had been canvassed. You're entitled to ask another editor not to post here, but it better to delete their comments rather than strike them. The talkpage guidelines make clear - Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request, but (s)imply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted. So feel free.


 * I will also make clear to CombatWombat42 that you have asked that they not post here, that you are entitled to do so, and that persistence on their part risks being seen as hounding. Hopefully we can bring this to a close without anything further needing to be done. Euryalus (talk) 09:24, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 09:26, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * The only reason I unstruck is that User:NE Ent pointed out that striking the comments was actually counter to policy. A new one for me, but still, it is. That, and it was the simplest solution that achieved the goals of correct a minor policy problem and making it obvious that he needed to stay away. At the very least, you need to unstrike the comments or you create a whole new problem.  Dennis Brown &#124; 2¢ &#124;  WER  16:20, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * You can't have it both ways; that is, the "stay off my talk page" edict and mucking with the editor's comments in violation of WP:TPG, (as clearly told you above). I've unstruck the comments for you. See also WP:3rr in case you're tempted to revert the unstriking. NE Ent 16:42, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

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Visual effects nominees that link to other pages (AKA a studio or something like that)
Like I noticed this for one of the guys nominated for Starship Troopers-Alec Gillis, it goes to a studio-wonder if I should make a page or what, just found it odd that some of them did. (Granted there are classic cases when you go to a DAB page and it will say something like joe smith-dogcatcher and link somewhere) I just left him unlinked on a page I just made as it felt odd. But yeah it is interesting. On another note-there is some writer who wrote Mad About Music who was nominated that I can find NO info about, she has only one other credit and that is it. Wgolf (talk) 19:20, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Okay the 2 visual effects artist that link to the visual page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Amalgamated_Dynamics Looks like 2 Oscar people. (One of them won for Death Becomes Her even) Not sure why they were created as redirects.

Then of course there are some people who I've considered adding but the IMDB pages seem to be for someone else or something. (A interesting one-this guy who won for Marooned oddly has a different named person listed on the IMDB, on here and the official AMPAS site he is Robbie Robertson (special effects artist), but on the IMDB it says some guy named Robbie Robinson who I don't even think is the right guy as this guy as only screenwriting credits....) Wgolf (talk) 16:11, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Sadovoye, Republic of Kalmykia
I can't set coordinates--Many baks (talk) 20:46, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Set the Controls for the Heart of the Sun.  Lugnuts  Dick Laurent is dead 06:54, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Um Thron und Liebe
Yeah, I knew that already. Sorry, a bit of a brain short circuit on that one. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 20:56, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Clarence Barr
Hi there -

I was looking at Clarence Barr since I occasionally try to clean up articles with year of death missing/date of death missing. I wondered how you determined his birth/death dates or if they were from IMBD. I suspect they're not right but before I poke around anymore I thought I'd check in with you as the article creator.

Thanks very much!

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ICC Cricket World Cup 2014
Hi, plaease have a look at that page as the older editions doesn't have any separate pages for knock outs and the MOM and match results have been removed unlike the previous tournaments. Vin09 (talk) 08:24, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Case of me trying to figure out if these 2 are married or related....
Okay so I added a page for the visual effects artist Scott Stokdyk, in the process I found a Danielle Stokdyk, who has worked with him a couple times, granted this is a very unusual name so I've been trying to figure out if this is his wife or not to add it to that infobox part (I really don't want to make a very awkward mistake and find out that it was his sister) Well have a nice editing day! Wgolf (talk) 17:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

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The Rajah (film)
Sorry to create work for ya if I moved it to the wrong place. I saw there is also a 1911 film version, but I doubt it needs a separate article. It appears the 1911 version is derived from The Rajah (play) since William Young the playwright is credited on imdb. The 1919 Harold Lloyd film might also be derived from the play, I don't know yet.--Milowent • hasspoken 14:47, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

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discussions of interest re Le Meraviglie
this one and this one. 101.161.14.40 (talk) 12:26, 22 April 2014 (UTC)

"Insect"
No more please, Lugnuts. Your point would have been better taken without that. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 17:58, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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Philomena (film)
Hey Lugnuts, no more reverts--you're in 3R territory. If they restore that information, let someone else handle it, OK? Drmies (talk) 19:18, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
 * They've been blocked for 60 hours. ANEW is slow sometimes, but it worked. Drmies (talk) 17:08, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
 * And how in the hell did you manage to create 18,000 articles? A long and unemployed career? Kudos... Drmies (talk) 19:20, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Well kind of have taken a break from adding names
Yeah I still do every so often but then it was getting crazy ha ha, I am currently patrolling older articles though (I did just put a afd on some lady who did a costume design for one film with no awards) But I did manage to complete the sound list, makeup and costumes are almost done. Visuals I have no idea-some names are a bit off-like some guy on the IMDB has a completely different name even! Editors and cinematographers-I really don't like to add that much due to how some of them link to too many pages. Anyway have a nice day!Wgolf (talk) 20:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

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Re: 2014 Ürümqi attack ITN
Would you like to reconsider your vote of the ITN nom now that the article has been created and expanded? Cheers! —Bloom6132 (talk) 13:52, 1 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Are you going to support the nomination now that the article is well-developed? —Bloom6132 (talk) 07:29, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Brazilian cinema
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Foul Play (1977 film)
The reason why I added the hatnote was because as I was searching for the American film, I didn't know which year it was, and the titles don't say "American" or "Spanish", so I clicked on the 1977 one. When I saw that it wasn't the right one, and there was no link to the 1978 one, I had to do another search. I see no reason why having a hatnote would do any harm, and if having one would have helped me, it may help someone else. --Musdan77 (talk) 17:22, 3 May 2014 (UTC)

Ida (film)
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Council election articles
Hi Lugnuts. Well done for starting all the election articles, but be careful with the categorisation - a lot of election categories are at "Footown Council elections", not "Council elections in Footown". Cheers, Number   5  7  19:20, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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Invite
As I found sources dated 5 months after the supposed cancellation that gave us information on casting and production, and while almost tempted to improve the darn thing and argue a keep under WP:NFF (paragraph 3, I do feel enough sources are available to justify it being written of somewhere within these pages even if not in its own article. I thus added a well-sourced short paragraph at Peter Hewitt (director), and ask that you support a redirect. Best regards,  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 09:32, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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 * Or]] in the main competition section at the 2014 Cannes Film Festival and won the Jury Prize sharing it with Xavier Dolan's film ''[[Mommy (

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"1919"
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=1919_%28film%29&oldid=prev&diff=609069675 Why undo my edit? --RThompson82 (talk) 20:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

American Beauty (film)
Hello, Lugnuts. You [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=American_Beauty_(film)&diff=prev&oldid=610314518 undid my edit] to this redirect with the comment "per WP:NCF." But WP:NCF doesn't apply here. That page says that the title of the article about the film should be American Beauty (1999 film), and I'm fine with that. But it doesn't say anything about what the target of the redirect American Beauty (film) should be. Look at Partially disambiguated page names. There are several examples of film title redirects just like this one: Wizard of Oz (film), which redirects to Wizard of Oz (1939 film); and Chicken Little (film), which redirects to Chicken Little (2005 film); as well as numerous examples involving other types of works (albums, songs, TV series) that are analogous. I invite you to reconsider your position. [EDIT: I see that since the guideline cited above was written, other editors have changed the targets of those two film redirects, but I think the principle is still valid.] --R'n'B (call me Russ) 13:33, 27 May 2014 (UTC)

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Category:Argentine films
I could really use your help moving as many to English titles as possible and filling in a lot of the short stubs!♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:21, 29 May 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring
You're over 3RR in your edit war on We Are What We Are (2013 film). I suggest you self-revert yourself. If you're really adamant about this ridiculousness, I suggest you take it to the talk page. Or I guess you could force us to bring you to WP:ANEW. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 11:02, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

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Minor thought
Hello. Thanks for all your extremely helpful edits. One thought -- I don't think it is helpful to delete currently unused line items that may conceivably be used later, such as "nickname", from infoboxes. Best. Epeefleche (talk) 21:22, 3 June 2014 (UTC)

57th Berlin International Film Festival
Hi, just wanted to ask do you know why 57th Berlin International Film Festival article got deleted. I mean there are number of similar pages likes this article.--Jockzain (talk) 14:28, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * It was same in style and information as 56th Berlin International Film Festival and there are number of other film festival articles like that. That's why I am wondering, why only delete this particular one. I already asked for a reason to deleting admin so let see.--Jockzain (talk) 18:01, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your help. I have added more details and references in it and moved it back.--Jockzain (talk) 17:04, 5 June 2014 (UTC)

Mankading
Thanks for the kind words, pal. Just a word about the transfer of content to the lead section: I think you've gone a little overboard with it. The mankading incident was just one moment in the tour, and yet now the article would seem to be all about it if you only read the lead. Perhaps if we cut it down and added prose accounts of each match in the respective sections? – PeeJay 19:53, 4 June 2014 (UTC)

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Newark by-election, 2014
Evening Lugnuts

You're bigger and bolder and scarier than me, could you look at the above article, the vandalism by User:Bobdylanlol, and take out your whacking stick, please? I feel that a firm hand is needed. I'm on revert duties. Ta v much doktorb wordsdeeds 22:30, 9 June 2014 (UTC)

Re Machan film
Hi Lugnuts, how are they hanging, lol. I have seen an edit to Machan (2008 film) with the edit ref saying "remove n/n blog deleted via AfD" dated "as of 08:52, 12 May 2014". I am not too sure what the edit summary is telling me, however this edit broke a reference. Can you confirm to me for my edification what the edit summary is saying and can you confirm therefore it is ok for me to delete this now unused reference. Cheers The Original Filfi (talk) 09:40, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

Karl John (actor)
I feel so sorry for you because I was making a contribution by trying to improve an article.

Your last revert reason that the German version is "user generated" is so weak I find you attempts to stop me trying to improve this article really upsetting and disconcerting.

What do you have against the actor Karl John?

Yet it is quite stable from the German article how uncontroversial it is, with the last edit summary showing that the last edit was on 21 March.

No one in Germany is getting upset so why are you?

Yeah why are you so upset about this article? You don't edit or add material all you do from your edit summary is taking stuff out and thinking up a reason so it doesn't sound like WP:IDL. 81.129.123.28 (talk) 11:45, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

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Kubilius
Re : which other article? Because he's not dead, so there is a mistake somewhere else that needs to be corrected. Thanks, Renata (talk) 16:30, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
 * Mystery solved. BE article used this template for the end of his Prime Minister term (!?). So I fixed the template and it's all good now. But maybe the template that you put on articles could incorporate where the problem is coming from - otherwise, people (like me) will not know where to look to fix the issue. Thanks! Renata (talk) 16:46, 14 June 2014 (UTC)

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You sneaky bastard. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:00, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

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 * modern sludge and drone music. Bands such as Godflesh, Khanate and Sunn O  have all cited this album's importance. {{cite web |url=http://americanaftermath.net/2011/12/