User talk:Luhrobin

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File source problem with File:JV by Autumn de Wilde.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:JV by Autumn de Wilde.jpg. I noticed that the file's description page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you did not create this file yourself, you will need to specify the owner of the copyright. If you obtained it from a website, then a link to the website from which it was taken, together with a restatement of that website's terms of use of its content, is usually sufficient information. However, if the copyright holder is different from the website's publisher, their copyright should also be acknowledged.

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File:JV by Autumn de Wilde.jpg
Please stop uploading copyrighted work to Wikipedia. It is not allowed. -- David  Shankbone  17:16, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

Second warning File:Jv dewilde 2.jpg
This is the second warning to stop uploading copyrighted material. This is a policy found at Copyright violations. We don't use it to illustrate a person on any article, especially when free media is available. Please stop. -- David  Shankbone  17:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Violations of policies and guidelines at John Vanderslice
Welcome to Wikipedia, but the way you re-wrote this article violates our core policies, including WP:NPOV, WP:RS, and removing verifiable, documented information is particularly trouble-some. In addition, it is poorly written, with every paragraph starting with "Vanderslice..." and the formatting does not conform to our manual of style. Please stop making these sorts of changes. If you have questions, you are welcome to inquire. -- David  Shankbone  17:22, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Jv dewilde 2.jpg}
Thank you for uploading File:Jv dewilde 2.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check:
 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
 * That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 19:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Disputed fair use rationale for File:Jv dewilde 2.jpg}
Thank you for uploading File:Jv dewilde 2.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this image under "fair use" may not meet the criteria required by Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the image description page and add or clarify the reason why the image qualifies for fair use. In particular, for each page the image is used on, the image must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page. Can you please check:
 * That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's escription page for each article the image is used in.
 * That every article it is used on is linked to from its description page.

Please be aware that a fair use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for images used under the fair use policy require both a copyright tag and a fair use rationale.

If it is determined that the image does not qualify under fair use, it might be deleted by adminstrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. NOTE: once you correct this, please remove the tag from the image's page. STBotI (talk) 19:34, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

John Vanderslice
Unless the origin of the photograph shows its copyright can be reused, even commercially, the photograph is not allowed on Wikipedia. You have re-written the article in a complete point-of-view fashion. I will revert one more time, but if you revert again then you will 1) be blocked; and/or 2) have the page protected to prevent you from editing it. I've approached you enough now pointing to our policies to let you know you are violating them, and you are edit-warring with me over it. -- David  Shankbone  20:21, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I have posted the issues at the Administrator board here. -- David  Shankbone  20:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

You are awesome, David, thanks for your help.
 * I wrote John about the photographs, and whether they ascribe to our requirements to not make them copyright violations. Also - may I suggest in the future,  you don't remove other people's work?  You could have moved the current image into the body of the article, as there is more than enough room. -- David  Shankbone  20:55, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I am trying to update the wiki page with the most current information so that people writing articles about him don't use outdated photographs or information!
 * Do you work for John Vanderslice, his agent, his label, etc? Wikipedia only accepts photographs where the copyright holder explicitly licenses it to us under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation license or a similar free content license, or releases it into the public domain.  For photos that are obviously professionally created or publicity shots, we ask that documentation of this release be submitted from a person with the authority to do so.  If you do not work for John Vanderslice, his agent, or his label, etc, then it is unlikely that you have the authority to grant such a license.  We do not use such images without permission.  If you do work for him, then we ask that you document the permission to use this image by sending an email to "permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org".  The letter of permission should state your real world name, who the copyright holder is, and a statement that you are authorized by your employer to grant the applicable license.  COPYREQ has a sample letter of permission that you can use. --B (talk) 21:16, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

(unindent)Lucy, Wikipedia is not here to promote artists, but to explain them. You are writing the article from a POV that is pro-Vanderslice, and that is not what we are about, and I am certain that is not what John would want. Because we are an encyclopedia, having older photographs on a Wikipedia article is not a problem, and there is room for both old and new, since graphic illustration of an artist at various points of their history is pertinent for an encyclopedia. We aren't a part of a PR effort. Second, you are uploading photography that you did not create, do not own and do not have the authority to re-license. Not only is this against the law, it is against this site's policies. For any image to be used, you have to own it, and you have to license it so that:
 * Republication and distribution must be allowed.
 * Publication of derivative work must be allowed.
 * Commercial use of the work must be allowed.

You don't appear to have this authority, unless you are John or Autumn de Wilde or his authorized representative. If you have not noticed, most other artists, authors or anyone else don't have publicity stills up for the reason that most don't want to license them per the above three conditions. I have asked John if he is willing to license the photography that way, but currently it is not. Where you are creating a problem for yourself is that you are not editing properly, in accordance with our policies and guidelines, and you are trying to force your erroneous edits. I'm sure you're a great person with the best of intentions, but all of this rigmarole has been developed over years, for particular legal and non-legal reasons. -- David  Shankbone  21:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

I am John Vanderslice's representative, and I'm doing all of this with his consent. All of his press photos are to be given freely to everyone, as I have stated before and have registered the photo as. The photos were purchased from Autumn de Wilde so that they could be used by everyone, everywhere, without charge.
 * Do you also understand why we can't just take your word for it? How do we know?  We've had issues in the past with people claiming to represent one person or another when...they don't.  John wrote me back, and I understand that he intends to try to do this properly, which would be either by listing the license that conforms to the requirements above on the photography page; or 2) sending the photographs to photosubmission@wikimedia.org with the following statements articulated:
 * 1. That you own the copyright on the photo—you photographed it yourself, it is a work for hire (if you are unclear as to the term, please read the hyperlinked article), or the copyright was transferred to you via written statement or operation of law (e.g., inheritance). Please specify which scenario applies.
 * 2. What copyright license you want to release it under. Whatever license you choose must allow the photo to be freely copied and modified by anyone (including third parties not affiliated with Wikipedia), for any purpose. We recommend using the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license.
 * This is the way to go about it. I realize your his new record label, but the site needs more proof to avoid legal problems, that come too easily with just assuming everyone says who they say they are behind these screen names. -- David  Shankbone  21:30, 16 February 2009 (UTC)