User talk:Luk/Archives/11

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Aabaig | Unblock and change of name requested
'''   It all depends on whether or not your company meets the criteria for inclusion and shows why in the article. I hope that helps :) -- lucasbfr talk 11:24, 1 July 2007 (UTC)'''

'''Yes thankyou, I just visited the WP:WORP page and observed the following:

The WP:CORP page says that''' "Organizations are usually notable if the scope of activities are national or international in scale and information can be verified by sources that are reliable and independent of the organization. In other words, they satisfy the primary criterion above."

'''My article contained authentic secondary sources from the Institute of Chartered Accountants of Pakistan as well as the Associate of Chartered Certified Accountants of which our firm is a member. Both these organizations are Internationally recognized governing bodies. The links given by me contain the mention of our firms name on their own websites. Moreover, our offices are also located in Newcastle - UK as well as in Leicestershire - UK in addition to Karachi - Pakistan.'''

The WP:CORP page further says:

"Other criteria are:

* Organizations whose activities are local in scope are usually not notable unless verifiable information from reliable independent sources can be found. (I gave those sources}  * The organization’s longevity, size of membership, or major achievements, or other factors specific to the organization may be considered. We are one of the first few Pakistani Firms to be given the status of ACCA Accredited Employers and among the very few Accountancy Firms to have better Quality Control Ratings as verified by our regulatory Body, and the link of which is already given by me on that deleted page The WP:CORP page further says:

Information on products and services should generally be included in the article on the company itself, unless the company article is so large that this would make the article unwieldy. In that case, the discussion of the company's products and services should be broken out from the company article in summary style.

If the product or service is notable, it can be broken out into its own article. If it is not notable, it should not be broken out into its own article but should have whatever verifiable information about it that exists presented within an article that has a broader scope, such as an article that deals with all of the company's products and services.

If a non-notable product or service has been written about in its own article, be bold and rename, refactor, or merge the article into an article with a broader scope, such as the company's article, creating it if necessary.

'''The whole theme of the deleted page was informative and no where were we using marketing language. The page was only for information purposes and a very BRIEF info about the firm and a summary of its CLIENTS / SERVICES.

I will appreciate if you would take the data posted by me on that page and create an article yourself under the name of A A Baig & Co. in the category of Accounting Firms.

One more thing, please visit these pages on Wiki:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Rhodes_Sidat_Hyder

Also in Karachi, also an accountancy firm like ours.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_and_Williamson

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenon_Group

Both Smith as well as Tenon are "LOCAL" firms restricted to UK and not international. Yet they have their pages.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talal_Abu-Ghazaleh_Organization_%28TAGorg%29 Another similar case

Thanks and regards''' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.29.203.33 (talk • contribs).
 * ''Replied there 11:58, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, but...
Thanks for offering help. I have used ctrl+shift+R instead of shift+F5, as I use Mozilla Firefox as my browser. That helped some. But, I haven't been able to figure out the rolback functions yet. The tabs say "watch", "warn", "arv", "csd", "last" "rpp" and "xfd". How does this help me locate vandalism? I can't even check recent pages with this. I really need some guidance. Aditya Kabir 15:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for helping me with the template. I have another quick questions. Could you align the box into the center of the box it is at this template? Thanks again! ~  Wi ki her mit  23:35, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Druid_WoW_Night_Elf_Stormrage_Arlokk.png
Thanks for uploading or contributing to Image:Druid_WoW_Night_Elf_Stormrage_Arlokk.png. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use. Suggestions on how to do so can be found here.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. ShakespeareFan00 16:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * ✅ but there was a FUR already (even if probably not sufficient) -- lucasbfr talk 11:29, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

Farmacia Central
This Pharmacy is a really historical place in humacao and its the oldest pharmacy in town too the article is meant to increase the information and history of Humacao town in Puerto Rico and article thats already publish in wikipedia if you have any sugestion on how to make this article available and that does not appear as advertising please contact me. Thank you —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merline wiz (talk • contribs).


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Systems_analyst
I left you a note on the talk page. Pretty sure they cannot copyright that article. But I did give you a little replacement stub if you really wnat to replace it. Really do not think Wiki should not have an article on this. Since there are user boxes out there that point to this article. --User: (talk • contribs • count) 00:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied on this user's talk page - 11:50, 7 July 2007 (UTC) 

Murray River Queen - deleted Artical
Ok - I can accept that.

I intended to link it to the "Paddle Steamers" category page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Paddle_steamers) But was unable to work out how to do so.

I based the article on the one for the "Alexander Arbuthnot" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Arbuthnot_%28paddle_steamer%29)

Is there a way to save a partly completed article without it being deleted, or does the whole article have to be completed in one sitting..??

Cheers Rob RDUNC 13:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)


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Roll back WP:UW changes
Hey Lucas question for you on WP:UW. Thanks :) --Breno talk 14:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleted articals - Murray River Queen (cont.)
Thanks for letting me continue on the articles. Could you tell me how I start them in "myspace" so that next time I can work on them there..??

Thanks again Rob

RDUNC 03:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


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DG
Didn't mean to tread on your toes! I only saw your message after I'd left mine post-block. --Steve (Stephen)talk 09:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

No Title
u didn't remove my profile


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Global Forum on Agricultural Research
You're right, I have withdrawn the speedy. It appears that that the author (who needs a link to WP:COI) did the minimum necessary to avoid a third copyvio deletion, but it didn't appear so at first glance. My apologies. -- Finngall talk  18:11, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

My banning
You banned me as User Ferdinandhartzenberg and deleted my userpage, I was wondering why, also User:Deon Steyn called what I wrote 'garbage' and reverted my edits on the Battle of Ventersdorp page and called me JBAK.

I want him to apologise, I am not this JBAK and I don't know why you banned me.

81.110.29.224 20:32, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


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Deleted: Dyandra
hai Lucasbfr,

based on your move to delete an archive/page about dyandra, i just want to ask to you the reason why you delete it.

dyandra is a professional exhibition organizer in Indonesia, the company have a very incredible growth over this past 6 years, so i think it deserve a page in wikipedia, just to let the rest of the world and mainly the exhibition world know that particular company is exist in Indonesia.

it will be a great honor for me if you can give me on your opinion about the importance or significant about making the company a page in wikipedia.

thank you

03:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied on this user's talk page - 09:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC) 

RE: Image:BikeorDiev1.4upgrades.gif
Ahh, I see you got it... As I said, I got a little confused with how to handle that one... Thanks! --SXT40 12:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Mtzanthony
Using the standard "my brother did it" excuse, but stands out from other cases a bit. Account was registered several days before the vandalism spree, and while there was one bad-ish edit, I might be ready to say they were just testing things out. They've stuck around long enough that it's hard to think of this as just another throwaway account, so I thought it was worth asking: did you have any particular feelings, regarding possibly giving this one a second chance? – Luna Santin  (talk) 01:50, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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Murray River Queen- the continuing saga.....
G'Day and thanks for the information so far. One more question..on page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Paddle_steamers) there is a link to the "Alexander Arbuthnot" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Arbuthnot_%28paddle_steamer%29) How do I create a link the same for the Murray River Queen..?? I have looked at the edit page for Paddle_steamers but there is nothing there to edit...???

While I am at it - I based my original entry on the one for the Alexander Arbuthnot, I copied the page and changed the information under each heading, I didnt have quite as much history as the boat was built in the 70's. How much more information do I need to provide to prevent it again meeting "Criteria for speedy deletion - Very short article providing little or no context". Or is it the fact that it was not linked to the Paddle _steamer page ...???

Thanks again. RDUNC 04:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Murray River Queen- the continuing saga.....
Thanks for your help. Dont worry about getting back to me the artical has been deleted again. I wont bother with Wikipedia anymore.

Cheers RDUNC 04:31, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied on this user's talk page - 09:39, 12 July 2007 (UTC) 

Thanks for your assistance
I will do some more research and come back to Wikipedia "one day". Feel free to close my account it wont be for awhile..!!

As for the aricle - when I tried to get back to it I got. "Notice: You are re-creating a page that was previously deleted.

You should consider whether it is appropriate to continue editing this page. Information is available on what to do if a page you created is deleted. The deletion log for this page is provided here for convenience:

I am afraid that the "Be Bold advice" requires someone with thicker skin than me, the learning curve apears to be too steep for this little black duck..!! The moderator who deleted the article hasnt even bothered to reply to my message.
 * 19:37, 10 July 2007 Ryulong (Talk | contribs) deleted "User:RDUNC" (nothing to see here)"

As I noted you are the only one who has been of some assistance..thanks for the tips I will try to remember them for when/if I decide to return one day. Cheers Rob RDUNC 11:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)


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My RfA
Thanks! Lucky for you I passed! ;-) -- But |seriously |folks  16:27, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

"His Skills"
Ohh, I don't know about that. It seems you, my friend, have seen the true epitome of skills. Cheers! -- omtay 38  20:28, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Prod
Thanks. BTW, I've put in your delete prod script; so it's much easier with the summaries. However, I have a little question... Why does the delete prod tab doesn't appear on all expired prods? Out of about every 10 prods, 1 or two articles don't have the tab, so I have to do something else for the summary. Thanks! --Клоун  02:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Replied on this user's talk page - 09:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC) 

hehe
Just saw that you wanna put indefblocked on the page? can you log into MSN? Khu kri 12:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

Smile!


Here's a green eye for you! Green eyes somehow promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by giving something friendly to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Make your own message to spread WikiLove to others! Happy editing! Hús ö  nd  01:21, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot :) Today was a shitty day, I hope tomorrow will be better! -- lucasbfr <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk 01:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Footnote sequencing question
You answered my question, thanks. The page was the "Driftless Area" of Wisconsin. I was looking at the 2nd section, "Formation," and saw that the footnotes were ordered 3, 2, 4 in that section, while the top section has 1 on the first line. It looked to me like 1, 3, 2, 4,..., because I did not notice that the top section also has 2, between the two sections resulting in the series 1, 2, 3, 2, 4,..., which fits your description of the possibility of 1, 2, 3, 1, 1, 4, 3, 2,... Had I noticed the 2 earlier, I would neither have spent the time digging through the help sections, etc., nor needed to ask. At least I picked-up quite a few new tools in the process, and met a helpful person as well. Grammarmonger 17:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:Videogamessuck
Sorry I think I have removed you vandal block warning - sorry again  M♠ssing Ace  18:25, 14 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks. I'm new here - learning the ropes - I've been here a month or so helping but only got an account today. All the vandalism stuff is really bad!!! Thank you for the message  M♠ssing Ace  18:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of 47th Missouri Volunteer Infantry
The information I posted in said article as a stub is originally from Dyer's Compendium of the War of the Rebellion which is free for open and public use. I took my information from http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/unmoinf4.htm. Dyer's Compendium is also catalogued as a public access and use tool by the NPS on their Civil War Soldiers and Sailors System. No copyright infringement was made, unless of course the creator of the 47thmissourinfantry.com page can legally seize Dyer's now public work. The article is a stub for now, but as with every Wikipedia article, it gets continuously worked on, so a crisp and clean presentation was in the works if there had not been a premature intervention. Why was there no discussion on the legitimacy of the content before it was deleted? Auror 19:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Wondering If My Prodding Was Legit
I prodded Myachi and db'd List of All Myachis and now am unsure if the tags are legit. Could you look them over, since if I am mistaken doing all this, I have caused the creator undue stress. -WarthogDemon 21:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
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 * Maybe just give him more warnings? He continually removes prods and speedies and might do so with afds as well. Also, the notability concerns is the reason for the afds correct? (I already mistagged, don't want to misafd as well. -WarthogDemon 21:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Replied on this user's talk page - 21:20, 14 July 2007 
 * Done. This'll sound wimpish but need I inform the creator? I feel like I'm being cold here having already filled his life (or at least day) with csds and prods. -WarthogDemon 21:26, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * You might also want to double check my double checking. I don't think there are any reliable sources but I still need to read up on that part of Wikipedia, heh. -WarthogDemon 21:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok did not expect to see that......
Well first of all I would like to say TY. I did not think I was that important for anyone to look at my rant. 8-). Secondly I don't care if I am wrong or not, this is how I feel about this issue and well nothing is going to change my mind. For more information on how I feel about this please see . Again, TY for making, me feel important 8-P.Phoenix741 21:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Myachi pages
The "List of all Myachis" has 'no encyclopedic content,' in your opinion... But that has little difference as compared to something such as a list of all Pepsi products. There's no problem with that, though, is there? The only real differences is the products themselves.

Not to mention, why do you hold it against me that sources are hard to come by? You're the third, maybe fourth, person I've had to try to get to realize that Myachi isn't popular. There are no books, no movies, no documentaries... Just the website, the forum... And the article I'm trying to establish. Excuse me if what little sources available aren't enough for you, but that's all we've got and it will have to suffice.

BrownsFanForLife 22:47, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

So let me get this straight...
You screw me over, because I (only 16 years old, mind you) know nothing about how this damn site works, what the heck to do on it, or why everyone is so anal on it. I paraphrase those who created Myachi, men who can easily verify everything I've quoted and paraphrased. The sole article I've created, or even contributed to, is deleted and deleted and deleted. And only when I contribute to it, do people complain about its notariety. Any other version stands for eternity, but once I edit or add to it, the complaints come pouring in.

Am I right, or is there more?

BrownsFanForLife 23:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Eric J. Heller
Hi. Thanks for getting in touch about my creation of the above article.

It was really just as an exercise to gain some experience. I decided to randomly select something from the afc page that had been overlooked, but which I thought would probably meet Wikipedia's guidelines, then have a go at creating it. Hope this is all right.

Incidentally, while I was there, I noticed there were a few articles that are still awaiting assessment. I might start taking a look at some of these as a way of building up my editing portfolio. Thanks Brochco 13:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

blocking of 61.215.206.254 - inappropriate?
Please dont block this IP also, it is shared and will play nice.

It is a little confusing the blocking process, you dont get any warnings even though they are building up in your talk page - so the first time you know of any troubles you cannot respond or deal with the issue.

I am not really understanding the distinction between booksinmyphone and librevox and various other sites that let people download an authors works and are scattered through the external links. There are some differences in the medium and format and such but they are all non-commercial and seem like a good service for people, librevox lets you listen to spoken versions, bookinmyphone to read on a phone, and there seem to be plenty of others offering various other formats. Why single out this particular site?

I use things like librevox and the gutenberg computer read texts in my mp3 player when riding and also like to read off the phone on the train. I dont see many people reading on the phone - it seemed like a good thing to let people know they had the option. The more readers of PD work the better right? 218.45.243.194 13:10, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your concerns! I let other admins review the block. While I think the 1 week block might have been a bit harsh at second thoughts, the block was indeed appropriate. -- lucasbfr <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk 19:23, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Barcelona edit war
Im reverting to the consensus edition, just check discussion page and compare editions--83.35.107.35 20:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

July 2007
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Man vs. Wild. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Tao of tyler 03:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)


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Username/bot
Thank you. --<b style="color:red;">Anthony.bradbury</b><sup style="color:black;">"talk" 14:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

User talk:71.39.227.112
Hi, I noticed you issued this warnings long after the vandalism happened. The user had probably left already. Please try not to issue multiple new warnings when the user got warned already for a latter edit. Thanks! -- lucasbfr <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk 00:24, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey guy, I acutally reverted the (multipal edits made by this indivdual)than went back and warned. That was the reason for the time delay.  Typicaly I would not have bothered but if you read his/her edits, I wanted it on record what was said.  Hope this explains why the delay happened ShoesssS Talk 02:16, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Special:Blockip/24.4.25.168
Now that I think about it, I'm not sure what I was trying to do. it seems that some sock accounts come from that IP, but a legit user was somehow caught in the autoblock via that IP when I blocked one of them. The whole situation was a bit shady, and the whole IP thing is not really the area I am best at. So thanks for fixing the block, now I at least understand what "softblock" means. And I'll see what happens. Dina 16:48, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Tinglepal
Hey. :-) I am familiar with this user's history. Based on my experience, I can say that this is an obvious sockpuppet of User:Islami, who has a history of creating throw-away socks for POV-pushing and to avoid scrutiny. He has also created numerous other socks at the same time to edit-war and POV-push on the Abbasid page and several other articles. <span style="font-family:monospace, monospace;">Khoikhoi 03:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Vandal skills
Hi there; I note your example of flagship vandalism; we now have a contender for the title. Take a look at the most recent edit in user talk:Omtay38!

Hi
I don't want the page to be deleted thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cool gal567 (talk • contribs).

Hey
Hi, are you like the manager of like the whole of Wikipedia?? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cool gal567 (talk • contribs).

Ban
Dear Lucasbfr,

I've tried, on both his own user talk page and on the Battle of Ventersdop talk page to reason with User:Deon Steyn, but he seems to think he has the power to assume that I'm JBAK and he reverts my edits, can you please tell him to be civilised about this?

81.110.24.229 11:33, 21 July 2007 (UTC)


 * In case there is still some doubt as to this person's identity, here is this IP's only other edit (on the same day), --Deon Steyn 08:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Removal of comment
Dear Lucasbfr,

I'm awfully sorry, however Deon Steyn has been systematically hounding me and reverting my edits without the authority to do so and without providing a valid reason. Through this breach of wikipedia codes of conduct he has demonstrated that he doesn't respect my right to edit (if wikipedia didn't want me editting then I would be banned) and therefore I fail to see why I should respect his edits.

86.27.141.3 15:39, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Could we please just forget about me even telling you if you did delete my profile or not!! It was just a silly question I aksed and no I don't want my profile to be deleted thanks. If I do want my profile deleted I will just say. :)Cool gal567 17:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC) Thanks again —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cool gal567 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 28 July 2007.
 * No worries I don't intend to delete your talk page :) -- lucasbfr <sup style="color:darkblue;">talk 16:29, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Requests for checkuser/Case/DavidYork71
My sincere apologies for the error. It was done in good faith but I shall leave it to the admins in future. Regards. → AA (talk) — 08:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


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 * Thanks for your reply. Out of curiosity and to be able to assist effectively in future, could you just outline the tasks needed to archive RFCUs (or is it best left to CheckUser admins?). Also, could you just double check the previous RFCU for DY71 as I may have archived that incorrectly also. Sorry again for the inconvenience. → AA (talk) — 19:11, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


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 * Many thanks for the info. I shall leave it to the clerks :) → AA (talk) — 20:49, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for bringing the unblock plea to my notice. The user had previously contacted me over email saying his account was hijacked and he was only undoing the hijackers' edits. But given the nature of edits, I did not buy and referred him to the unblock-en-l.

I still am not convinced of his arguments and as a result would refrain from discussion so that others get a fair chance to evaluate the user and his contribs. If you would like, I would forward you the communique we had if the user gives me permission to do so. Btw, if you feel he should be unblocked, feel free to undo the block. Thanks, and see you around. --soum talk 10:12, 31 July 2007 (UTC)