User talk:Luke6802

February 2019
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Nebuchadnezzar II, you may be blocked from editing. Thank you. Tgeorgescu (talk) 22:20, 23 February 2019 (UTC)

Please clarify
Please clarify to me how I broke the editing rules for the Nebuchadnezzar II page. I explained my reasons for the edit, and you did not refute them, but instead just labeled my editing as "disruptive." Please explain. Thanks. Luke6802 (talk) 22:53, 23 February 2019 (UTC)Luke6802


 * See WP:RS/AC. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:20, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

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Reformulated:


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You may also want to read User:Ian.thomson/ChristianityAndNPOV. We at Wikipedia are highbrow (snobby), heavily biased for the academia. Tgeorgescu (talk) 11:30, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Discussion re: removal of a line of description of the book of Daniel in the article "Nebuchadnezzar II"
My original edit was to remove a contested description of the book of Daniel from an article about Nebuchadnezzar II. I did not add a different description. I merely removed the description because the citation was from one scholar and did not represent the whole of scholarship about the book of Daniel. I think that discussion is best left for the article on the book of Daniel. Why give a description of the book of Daniel that does not represent all scholarly thinking about it in an article that is not even about the book of Daniel? Brevity is supposed to be valued in Wikipedia. My edit removing the contested description of Daniel made the article on Nebuchadnezzar II less controversial and more focused on the topic at hand. The description of Daniel that I removed only represented one view of several on the book of Daniel and treated that one view as if it were the truth about the book of Daniel, and all of this in an article that was not even about the book of Daniel. This is misleading, unhelpful, and unprofitable in an article that is supposed to be about Nebuchadnezzar II. Luke6802 (talk) 23:55, 24 February 2019 (UTC)Luke6802


 * That's just your opinion. You have to play by our WP:RULES, else get blocked or banned. Tgeorgescu (talk) 10:41, 25 February 2019 (UTC)