User talk:Lwalt/Archive Apr 2007

Exurb
Hello Lwalt, and thanks for your recent contribution to the Exurb article. I'd propose that you find a way of extracting some key nuggets from the Brookings report and adding them to the article text. As it stands, the report is not referenced in the article. If the report does not disagree with the article in any way, and the article already has references, that suggests that the new item might not be needed as a reference. EdJohnston 00:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

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James Brown, Dash Records, pseudonym?
What is all this about Dash Records and a pseudonym? Do you have a citation? I know Brown released one album on TK Records (of which Dash appears to have been a subsidiary based on a cursory examination of Google search results), but I thought it wasn't really worth including labels he only made a single record for in the infobox list. By the 1990s he was moving to a new label for virtually every release, so to be consistent would require adding a lot more entries to the list. Please let me know your thoughts.

Thanks for your many, many additions and improvements to the James Brown article. InnocuousPseudonym 03:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Dade Records followup
Thanks for your reply, it answers some of my questions but not all. In the body of the article the name of the label for which Brown recorded "(Do the) Mashed Potatoes" is given as Dade Records, not Dash Records. This is also the case in the discography and liner notes to the Star Time box set, and in the Web page you directed me to. So as far as I can tell the reference should be to Dade Records, not Dash.

Given that it was only one single recording, made under a pseudonym on a small label for which there is no entry (is a discography available anywhere online?), and which is discussed at length in the body of the article (thanks for that addition), I really don't think Dade belongs in the infobox list, unless as I said before all the labels that he only released one album for also go on the list. I'm not going to start an edit war over the matter or anything, and would even scrape together a list of his latter day labels from allmusic.com, etc. for the sake of consistency if it stays. But given the constraints of space and for the sake of clarity I think the infobox would be better if those were left out.

By the way, The Famous Flames (or, earlier, The Flames) consisted only of the singers backing Brown, not the instrumentalists (with the exception of Nafloyd Scott, a guitarist who played on "Please, Please, Please" but left the group by the time "Try Me" was released). This is also clarified in the Star Time booklet, in which the members of The Famous Flames are listed separately from the band in the personnel for each record. I thought of adding that to their article but didn't - guess I should, huh?

Thanks again, InnocuousPseudonym 04:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Article breakup
Since you asked, though I have never split up an article before (other than separating "Night Train" from Jimmy Forrest) my thought for a while about carving out part of the JB article was to move the List of Top Ten Singles to the James Brown discography article, possibly along with the "Notable Albums and Singles" and "Chronological Collections" subsections. Or maybe the Top Ten list could be removed altogether since it is redundant with the full list of his charting singles on the discography page. In a pinch the "Chronological Collections" could I'm sure come right out. I wrote it myself just for the sake of documentation, as it's the most thorough and systematic series of compilations of his music currently available, but it's hardly essential information. I personally think "The James Brown Revue" section is less suitable for separation. InnocuousPseudonym 06:04, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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James Brown protection
Thanks for adding protection to the James Brown article again. InnocuousPseudonym 21:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Erroneous citations
Another issue with the James Brown article... There are several statements in quotes in the Evolution of musical style section for which the citation given is an article from the St. James Encyclopedia of Popular Culture. The citation contains a link to the article in question. However, none of the statements given in quotation marks in the Wikipedia article (e.g. "a raw supplicating tempo") actually appear in the St. James Encyclopedia article. A Google search on the phrases reveals that they do not appear in any other Web pages, either (excluding the Wikipedia article itself and rip-off sites like About.com).

I'm writing this to you since you revised that section recently, nobody seems to look at article Discussion pages, and I'm not really set to completely rewrite the section myself right away. Personally, I think the information in the "Evolution of musical style" section would be better distributed through the description of Brown's musical career. That's just a thought, but since you are aiming to get this up to featured article status I thought you would want to know about the citation stuff. I might take it up myself later when I get the time. InnocuousPseudonym 04:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, my mistake. Some of those quotes appeared in the third page of the article. But the one quote was "a raw supplicating manner," not "tempo" (that just didn't make sense). I'm doing a brief rewrite now. InnocuousPseudonym 04:36, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

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