User talk:Lyriker

January 2008 (http://spam.lyrikline)
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 * Hello MER-C, thank you for your message. I don't know whether you had a proper look at the linked website in question yet, but I think it's highly relevant for each Wikipedia article I placed a link at because the authors speak their poems especially FOR lyrikline so they can be listened to by people interested in their poetry everywhere in the world for free. So the project as well as its publicity is supported, desired and legitimated by the poets, who actively contribute to this website by coming to the lyrikline studio or sending their audio recordings to be published on the website.
 * The project lyrikline is supported by the German UNESCO Commission, the Goethe Institute, the Senate of Berlin, the Federal Cultural Ministry of Germany and many partner institutions worldwide that all work together to foster an international multilingual cultural network that is presenting the best authors of our time and make their work available to an international audience. Moreover the project initiates translations of the poetry into as many languages as possible, trying to contribute to an active linguistic diversity on the internet.
 * lyrikline.org has received the renowned Grimme-Online-Award in the category culture and entertainment in 2005, the same year that the Wikimedia Foundation was awarded with the same prize in the category knowledge and education for Wikipedia.
 * Certainly every link placed on Wikipedia is promotion in a way, in this case I dare say the aspect of promotion should be judged as minor to the cultural value and international reputation of the website in question.
 * It was a pity for me to see that you deleted all the links. Maybe my preceding explanation has changed your mind on whether or not lyrikline should appear on poets' Wikipedia articles. In case you persist on your opinion, I will of course stop as it is not my intention to fill Wikipedia with information that is regarded as spam but to enrich the article with an opportunity for both author and recipient. Thank you, Lyriker

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 * Dear Hu12 and MER-C,
 * I did send an e-mail to Hu12 as suggested in the text above because as far as I understand, he or :she is the administrator who initiated the block. There was no reaction to my e-mail, so now I'm :not sure whether it arrived and I'd like to bring up the topic here again.
 * I understand now that the way I acted is not accepted. I am sorry for that, I apologize for it and :I reversed everything I placed in Wikipedia myself where it had not been done already (except some :additions in the content of 2 or 3 articles in the german version). I do not want to damage the :work of Wikipedia with contributions that are not wanted as I appreciate and value Wikipedia.
 * I only want to solicit you to undo the block for the URL lyrikline because in the past many :other people have set the link to this site in various Wikipedia articles in several languages and :judged it to be a good and suitable addition to the articles. It really is a valuable website that, :when it comes to portraits of contemporary international poets, is in accordance with all the :aspects Wikipedia demands of the quality of a website. I ask you to give other people the chance to :link to lyrikline and undo the block. It would be a disappointment for all the authors and their :commitment too.
 * I hope you will answer and we can at least talk about it.
 * Thank you! --Lyriker (talk) 12:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Not much to talk about. Wikipedia is NOT a "repository of links" or a "vehicle for advertising" and persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted.


 * Spam pages


 * Sites spammed
 * →redirects to lyrikline.org
 * →redirects to lyrikline.org
 * →redirects to lyrikline.org


 * Spammers
 * cross-wiki spam:
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--Hu12 (talk) 15:48, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Serious errors made here.
If all --or even most -- of the links are legitimate, it isn't linkspam. No evidence of COI, name similarity simply indicates interest. ("Lyrik" and "Lyriker" simply mean "poetry," and "Lyrikline.org" would then mean something linke Poetline.org. Lyrikline appears to be a recognized and legitimate site with notable support, de.wp, which would probably know the most, has totally whitelisted lyrikline.org. It's meta blacklisted, I've now requested delisting there. This user should be unblocked, the user didn't continue the alleged linkspamming here after warning, and apologized. And the supposed violating username wasn't. This is old, but, at least, it may be possible to undo some of the damage. --Abd (talk) 16:56, 7 February 2009 (UTC)