User talk:Lysozym/Archives/2013/Nov

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Sockpuppet investigations/EMr KnG. Dougweller (talk) 21:50, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the note. However, I have not been into any conflicts with this user or his sockpuppets. --Lysozym (talk) 21:50, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

Babur
I believe the sentence stating the Mughal empire was Turkic in nature should be removed: Since he was a patrilineal descendant of Timur, Babur regarded himself a Timurid and a Turk.(Stephen Dale) Some sources therefore claim that Babur's empire was Turkic in nature.(EB) Nothing I have read by Stephen Dale would indicate that he considered the Mughal empire, at any time, was of a Turkic nature/culture. Per my last post on the talk page; Even Stephen F. Dale states, "The empire that Bābur began, Humāyūn re-established and Akbar consolidated was one whose basic character was defined by Bābur's own political and cultural inheritance, and it was a sophisticated world apart from what is known of many and perhaps most Afghān of the period. The character of this state remained fundamentally unchanged, despite the distinct individual characteristics of Tīmūrid-Mughul rulers. It was a Turco-Mongol conquest state of observant Sunni Muslims steeped in Perso-Islamic culture whose rulers had one principal goal, to perpetuate and enrich the Tīmūrid-Chaghatay elite." -- The Garden of the Eight Paradises: Babur and the Culture of Empire in Central Asia, Afghanistan and India (1483-1530), 477-478.'' As such I have called for the removal of the Britannica and World Book sources and the sentence(s) they reference removed as well. If user:Nataev believes such statements need to be included, then he can provide secondary sources for such statements. Your thoughts? --Kansas Bear (talk) 05:56, 12 November 2013 (UTC)

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