User talk:Mário/archive3

Archive number 3 of my talk page, created on June 30 2006.

A question
A while back I translated the Carmona Rodrigues article, and I was unsure about this, so I thought you would be the person to talk to...

Is the "President of the Municipal Chamber of Lisbon" (Presidente da Câmara Municipal de Lisboa) the same as being the "mayor" (Prefeito) of Lisbon? (Does Portugal really have "mayors"?) The Lisbon article calls him the "mayor". I used both titles in the Rodrigues article. Your thoughts? Grand master  ka  06:54, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

Names
As above, great work! One point though, taking Paranhos, Porto as an example, do you think it's best to Anglicize place names and not mention the original name? Hospital Sao Joao translates as St. John Hospital, but I would probably go for the original name, possibly with an English version in brackets like: "Hospital Sao Joao (St. John Hospital)" when referring to it, that's what I'm used to seeing in travel guides and most literature about other countries. What do you think? Deizio 13:28, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
 * I know what you're saying, people and places in a newspaper report about a foreign country would be translated (Like at home the paper would say "King Juan Carlos of Spain", or "the Eiffel Tower") but I think when describing the places in an area for information, the local name and a translation should both be present if possible. My first thought was that the conventional translation to English would be St. John's Hospital, see St Mary's Hospital, St Bartholomew's Hospital and others at the List of hospitals in the UK.

Portugal Template
The Portuguese template is mostly modeled after the Massachusetts template. I structured the template after Portugal's districts and N.U.T.S., according to the Political divisions of Portugal page on Wikipedia. The template is essentially meant to provide better convenience of information to everyone that is browsing information about the country's political geography. Although, there might be revisions needed to it, such as the color of the boxes and the political divisions of the country. Most certainly, you're welcomed to revise the template in any such way to better it, like providing precise information about the country. Thank you for your time!

Zeca Afonso
I did a search for motor nuerone disease and football - in the university years section it clearly states

''from 1946 to 1948 he finished high school, after two prior attempts failed due to his chaotic lifestyle spent among the older students. He met Maria Amália de Oliveira, whom he married secretly due to his parents' opposition. He travelled with some of the most important university musical groups and played football for the Associação Académica de Coimbra.''

So, I think an apology is due as the article clearly states he WAS a footballer (though this may not have been as a profession) Ianguy 12:17, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough - but for some reason my talk page has now appeared in the category - any idea why??? It doesn't show in the editing box? Ianguy 13:15, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Massarelos
Looks good, I'm not 100% on that part of the city but sounds about right. Great work! Deizio talk 23:19, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Welcome
Welcome to the Welcoming committee! :) Cmapm 23:22, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Renaming
A, I've proposed the renaming of Grande Área Metropolitana do Porto to Greater Porto. The latter currently redirects to the former, along with several other variations on the name, and I feel that having the regular, simple English form as the main page makes sense. There is a survey on the article talk page. If it goes through I can use AWB to simplify all the redirects.

Speaking of AWB, I've been changing a lot of Oporto links to Porto, and I think you've done a couple as well? Just makes sense, "Oporto" was never more than a historical typo and everyone calls it Porto. I'm not about to change every link, but I think modern references to the city can certainly be changed. Deizio talk 19:30, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It's officially both, for example I have friends here who frequent the "Oporto Tennis & Cricket Club", and of course the airport code is OPO, but "Oporto" is becoming archaic relatively quickly. I don't meet many people, here or in the UK who know it as anything except Porto. Deizio talk 21:59, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Porto news

 * Thanks for the star, like you I really enjoy getting real content in the encyclopedia, and I managed to get Funicular dos Guindais in the Did you know? section on the front page yesterday which is great. Excellent job on turning all the parishes blue on the template. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">zio</FONT> talk 10:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * You have to nominate articles, which must be a) less than 5 days old (day of original creation, not last update or time of listing) and b) well written and longer than a stub, at Template talk:Did you know and hope it gets picked. Updates usually happen once a day. Getting Porto to featured article status is something to aim for as well. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">zio</FONT> talk 11:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Vitória Guimarães players
Please do feel free to suggest an appropriate name ... Would Category:Vitória SC players be correct? At least it matches Vitória SC -- ProveIt (talk) 14:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the quick reply, I'll suggest it to the group -- ProveIt (talk) 14:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Parish article titles
I wrote a note on the talk page of Template:Parishes of Lisbon without realizing that you created it. The titles of the parishes in the template are all "Parish, Municipality" while the ones we've done for WP:OPO (and all the ones I see on the Pt. Wikipedia) are "Parish (Municipality)". We need to decide which format we're using for all the parishes NOW before we fill in too many of them. (For example, the Porto template has São Nicolau (Porto) while the Lisbon template has São Nicolau, Lisbon.)

I've worked on a couple pages on Neighborhoods of Minneapolis. The standard for that and for other U.S. neighborhoods is "Neighborhood, City". But I would prefer "Parish (Municipality)" for these, and that's what's done on the Pt. Wikipedia. Your thoughts? Grand master  ka  06:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)


 * Yeah, go with "Parish (Municipality)". That's what we've used and that's what PT Wikipedia uses for these... Grand  master  ka  19:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

RFA thankyou
Hi Alfonso, thank for your support for my RFA! --BrownHairedGirl 17:04, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Category:Freguesias of Portugal
I have no objection to renaming the category. To do it properly, you should list it on WP:CFD and then a bot could move all the articles from one category to the new one. - SimonP 17:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

Portuguese Colonial War
Hi I am very happy to copy edit the rest of the article but it may take me some time as I only have a little time to do it! But it is a very interesting article about an area that isnt too well known in the UK so I will enjoy doing it [User:Nickhk|Nickhk]

I will copy edit - but understand it may take a few weeks rather than days! Nickhk 22:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for voting on my RfA
Mahoga <b style="color:red;">ny</b>

My RFA
Hi ,

Thank you for supporting my RFA! Unfortunately it did not succeed mainly because most opposers wanted me to spend more time on Wikipedia. Thank you for your faith in me & looking forward to your continued support in the future.

Cheers

Srik e it ( talk ¦  ✉  )  00:58, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Nazism
What is revisionism and on what grounds are you calling this proposed name change a revisionism? As I pointed out, in all other encyclopedias preferd term is "National Socialism". -- Vision Thing -- 16:36, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

PCP
Yes, I'm leaning towards the dab being at PCP. I'm not fully committed at this point. Vegaswikian 19:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

From Catalonia
Thank you for your support. Best regards from Barcelona. --Joan sense nick 22:13, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you for your support on my recent RfA. It succeeded with a final tally of 72/2/0 and I am now an administrator. I'll be taking things slowly at first and getting used to the new tools, but please let me know if there's any adminnery I can help you with in the future. &mdash;Wh o uk (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
, thank you you so much for validating my RfA! I am grateful for all the supportive comments, and have taken both the positive and constructive on board. If I can ever make any improvements or help out in any way, please let me know, ditto if you see me stumble! Thanks again for your much appreciated support.

<FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">zio</FONT> talk 18:07, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Sabes, se precisas de ajuda e só dizer! Obrigado, <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">zio</FONT> talk 23:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

União Proletaria
See Articles for deletion/"Proletarian Union" Committee of the Portuguese Marxist-Leninist Communist Organization (in reorganization). --Soman 09:20, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Need your help for Mormonism portal
I´m not registered at wikipedia. So I can not start the creation of the Mormonism portal. Please, start this portal. I will contribute when it is possible for unregistered wikipedians. 84.146.201.207 16:14, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

AfD article with long name
Don't worry about the slow response, I'm sometimes guilty of the same. As for the article with long name, I'm sorry for initially not clarifying my point. Either way, looks like the article made it out of AfD alive :-). Also, I'm sorry if I was overly chained to google, but I do tend to believe that any topic about a developed nation with few (or no) google results is of questionable notability at best.  Anyway, best wishes.  Cool3 00:33, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
 * One suggestion, if you have an account on the Portuguese Wikipedia, you write an article on the same topic there. The other contributors there would probably be more familiar with the topic and maybe their input could help you expand the English article.  Secondly, if the Portuguese article survives, it would provide you with a powerful argument in a second AfD, should one occur.  Cool3 00:36, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

Tone's RfA thanks
Dear &mdash; Thank you for your support on my recent RfA. It succeeded with a final tally of 46/2/3 so now I am an administrator. I'll be taking things slowly at first and getting used to the new tools, but please let me know if there's any anything I can help you with in the future. And please correct me, if you spot I make a mistake. Thank you again. --Ton e  23:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC))

RfA
I notcied that you've left messages for Cool3 on his talk page, so I thought you mihgt want to vote in his RfA at WP:RFA. ShortJason 15:13, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

Please help me now
Can you please start the creation of the Mormonism portal. You can create the portal with the portal box and I will update the articles of this portal. I can help you with the creation when it is allowed for unregistered users. 84.146.213.64 13:13, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Baltar (Paredes)
I am working on this parish as part of my effort to fill in Parishes of Paredes (which I created.) I'd like you to take a look at it. The Portuguese article doesn't have enough context in it for me to continue translating it. (Starting from "A antiguidade do povoamento de Baltar deve atribuir-se à época romana...") Mainly, I can't really understand the concept of "honra" in this article, and the article for Honra is unrelated (and very strange.) Grand  master  ka  05:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

My RfA
, thank you for participating in my RfA. Unfortunately, a great number of oppose voters felt that I lacked experience, and a consensus was not reached (the final tally was 30/28/10). Perhaps I will try again in another few months when I have a few more edits under my belt. If I do, I hope I can count on your support. Thanks again!

Cool3 talk 20:58, 2 June 2006 (UTC) (UTC)

My RfA
Thank you for the trust that you had in me when you supported my Request for Adminship. The nomination ended successfully and I am actually overwhelmed by the support that I received. Thanks again! -- Kim van der Linde at venus 06:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

My RFA
, thank you for participating in my RfA. It passed with an amazingly unopposed 77/0/1. Thanks for the support everybody! If you see me doing anything wrong, want to ask me something, or just want to yell in my general direction, leave me a note on my talk page. I promise to try and knock out Wikipedia's problems wherever I may find them!

Staxringold talkcontribs 21:46, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

Modulation techniques
Hey, thanks for adding stuff to the template. Feel free to do whatever you like with it. I like making templates to organize articles on Wikipedia. --HappyCamper 20:55, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

Favorite Songs
My survey has changed. I am now continuing my mission for the best songs, but now I am accepting all genres. I'm giving you a chance to revote for your top ten favorite songs of any genres (not just classic rock which is still the best). I've made a executive decision to keep the existing survey results and just add on to that with the new entries. My feeling for doing this is because classic rock is the most influential genre in music currently so it should be expressed more in the survey. Thank you for contributing in the past, and hopefully in the future. ROCK ON. <font face="stop" color="#C41E3A">RENTASTRAWBERRY  <font face="goudy old style" color="#C41E3A">FOR LET?  <font face="goudy old style" color="#C41E3A">röck  03:32, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Portal:Portugal
I've had some luck listing them on the main WP:PR, but your mileage may vary ;-)

As far as the portal itself, it's very nice, but there are a number of issues I noticed: Overall, though, it's in pretty good shape, and can probably be brought up to featured portal standards fairly easily. Kirill Lokshin 18:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The "Selected picture" archive doesn't show the actual pictures (and the descriptions used when they were displayed), as one would expect. Also, convention is to give an image credit (like on WP:POTD) below the image.
 * The "Did you know" section needs an archive as well as more frequent updates.
 * The "Categories" section shouldn't include any links that point to pages which don't exist.
 * The "Maintainers and guestbook" section is too self-referential; it should be moved to the talk page or removed entirely.
 * There are a number of boxes listing things to do; I would combine the "Things you can do", "Article needed", and "Collaboration" sections into a single box.
 * There's no need for a "sub-portals" column if there aren't any at the moment.

Portal
Duas coisa: Um abraço! Joaopais 21:00, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Excelente trabalho no portal! Não tenho andando muito activo por esses lados, mas de volta e meia lá vou actualizando algumas coisas. Mesmo assim vou tentar ajudar no que puder para torná-lo "featured".
 * 2) Gostava de pedir a tua ajuda para uma coisa semelhante à que fizemos com a List of Presidents of Portugal. Se quiseres ver, tenho na minha sandbox (User:Joaopais/Sandbox) uma lista de primeiros ministros que tenho vindo a desenvolver, semelhante à dos presidentes, só que com a particularidade de serem 119 (!) em vez de 20... Optei por ignorar toda a informação anterior a 1834, já que não existia o posto de Primeiro Ministro, ou quando existia era esporadicamente. Além disso toda a informação em List of Prime Ministers of Portugal anterior à Monarquia Constitucional parece-me factualmente errada, já que as pessoas mencionadas ocuparam o cargo de Ministro do Reino (o equivalente ao actual Ministro da Administração Interna), um cargo paralelo (e não superior) a outros como Ministro da Guerra e Ministro dos Estranjeiros. Gostava então de pedir a tua ajuda para duas coisas: dares a tua opinião geral revendo a lista (se possível) e corrigindo aquilo que achares pertinente; e ajudares-me a tentar encontrar imagens para os Ministros que faltam e a pensar numa maneira de passar ao lado da malta que acha absolutamente ultrajante que apareça uma imagem de um ministro português que governou durante 12 dias em 1867, sem informação do autor.

Narrow Gauge railways in Portugal
Hi. Many thanks for the RfA vote, which is appreciated. I have been very pleasantly surprised by the level of support I've received.

Yes, narrow gauge railways are one of my passions. How wonderful to have grown up that close to one. I am unfortunately woefully ignorant of Portugese railways, I'm afraid. I'd certainly like to learn more about them. In fact its an area that Wikipedia also seems to be lacking coverage in. Perhaps you could help me work on some articles to correct this? It would be a great chance for me to learn more and for us to improve Wikipedia.

Many thanks, and best wishes, Gwernol 21:38, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Featured list candidates/List of members of the ASEAN
Check out if it already meets your criteria, and what needs to be done in order for it to attain featured status. Thanks. --Howard t he Du c k 14:56, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Project
Hey, you can just create it as you can create any Wiki page, the only problem would be if somebody thinks it isn't a viable project... a Wiki project should attract at least a few members, if you can do that you should be OK... If it's more of a personal crusade you should think hard whether it needs to be formalised as a "project" - if you aren't sure that you can attract more people to join then maybe wait until you can, or at least make sure that similar projects have got off the ground OK... I'll obviously sign up and help where I can. I haven't had as much Wiki time as I once did recently, also my contract is almost up so I'm leaving Porto and heading back to Scotland at the end of this month. I'll still be keeping an eye on Porto affairs but obviously not with the same level of "hands on" knowledge about stuff, eg Porto Metro. <FONT STYLE="verdana" COLOR="#000000">Dei</FONT><FONT COLOR="#FF3300">zio</FONT> talk 23:24, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Computerjoe 's talk 15:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Nuclear power by country
I've addressed your points at Featured list candidates/Nuclear power by country/archive1. Thanks for your comments; they've definitely helped improve the list. <font style="color:#CC1111">smurrayinch <font style="color:green">e <font style="color:#CC1111">ster(User), (Talk) 22:19, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

Translation work
You requested the translation of Onda de violência no Brasil em Maio de 2006 to English. I can do the job. What should I do with your request at WP:TIE? Do you want any special thing from the article? Regards!


 * I honestly didn't have any particular section in mind. It just appears as though the article on the Portuguese Wikipedia is much longer and more comprehensive than the one on the English Wikipedia. Perhaps you could use your best judgement in determining what information in the Portuguese article would be suitable for improving the one here. Thanks in advance. joturn e r 04:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Redirect
It is not necessary to find consensus to redirect articles. If so, why would such an thing be available to regular users? Non-notability does not always merit deletion, as it can serve as a useful redirect. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 19:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
 * The "valuable content" you describe is already discovered in the movie's plot summary. Rat thing from Skull Island bites people. People turn into zombies. Rat thing gets beaten to death. That's already in the plot summary. Making an entirely new sections for a fictional creature on the article is simply redudnancy. And please do not accuse me of redirecting without reason. I am not some vandal. And as I've said, it's a useful redirect. Non-notability does not always merit deletion if the title sill has some use. '  (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 20:12, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks!
--<font color="#000000">Pilot| <font color="#0000FF">guy 22:24, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lusophobia
See this: Articles for deletion/Lusophobia Page Up 13:13, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Portugal
Sorry. I saw some edits which, not knowing much about the subject, I could not tell whether they were useful contributions or vandalism( I did not know whether the changes were random garbage, or a serious assesment of the events). I looked at the talk page of the editor, and saw a vandalism warning on it dated today, saying the user vandalised Portugal. I noticed that the content that it said was vandalism had not been removed, so I reverted the edits. I obviously made a mistake.Dolive21 14:06, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Lusophobia
I was amused that some people found nothing on Google to substantiate the claim that the term Lusophobia doesn't exist. As regards the Lusophobia article being POV, other contributors have been far worse than me.

I accept that the term's use in an Australia/East Timor context is tenuous, as nobody in Australia except Geoffrey Hull appears to use it. Portugal-bashing would be more readily understood.

However, in Brazil, the term was definitely in use (see Jeffrey Mosher's “Political Mobilization, Party Ideology, and Lusophobia in Nineteenth-Century Brazil: Pernambuco, 1822 - 1850") and so it's worth retaining the article for that reason alone. Remove the other stuff, but don't delete the article entirely.   Quiensabe 11:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

List of Australian ODI cricketers
Hi, I made a few changes to the list after your comment on the featured list candidates thread. Please take a look at it and see whether it fits now. (and congratulations on tonight's 1-0 win.) Sam Vimes 21:20, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

My edits @ Portugal
Thanks for bringing this to my attention. It seems to have happened during an RCP. I always analyse the content of an edit carefully before reverting. I think that it probably happened due to me pressing the backspace during a period of repeated vandalism on a page, as I tend to do about 100 legitimate reverts in every session, this kind of error is possible. As there had been a revert below on the page Portugal I must have thought that this was the page that was under attack, and reverted this by mistake. Thanks again, Sincere Apologies, Abcdefghijklm 15:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Rink hockey
Thanks for the compliments. I want to collaborate with Wikipedia and I do at what I know best, which is sports. I really like reading other stuff, but I'm not very keen on writing about it, so I prefer objective stuff.

Keep up the good work you too ;)--Serte 19:21, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

Portal
Great initiative! i'll try to do an effort, but i'm not very experienced with working with portals. --Soman 16:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

What is the problem with those links?
(The Portuguese Language - an Ocean of Cultures ) (Côa Valley Archaeological Park ) (World Heritage Sites in Portugal ) São em inglês + são interessantes e instrutivos; Instituto Camões Ministério da Cultura e UNESCO ... José Manuel CH--GE 23:07, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Ooh! I am touched and humbled, thank you for your lovely comment and the compliment. Thank you again. Page Up 10:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

The problem with those links is that we should restrict EL (...) + don't create your own captions, use the website's title.
The name: The Portuguese Language - an Ocean of Cultures  is not my creation... is from the second page of the same website; http://www.instituto-camoes.pt/cvc/oceanoculturas/eng/index.html (second page) http://www.instituto-camoes.pt/cvc/english.html (first page)

Sorry I do not believe in your “EL” (Hell?) Best regards, José Manuel CH--GE 13:58, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Prague Spring
Álvaro Cunhal really suported the communist invasion of Czechoslovakia. I supose you didn´t see recently the programm in RTP Memória channel, about communism in Western Europe, were it appeared excerpts of interviews with Santiago Carrillo and Enrico Berlinguer, and from a intwerview with him, from the 1980`s, were he TOTALLY suported the 1968 invasion, because he believed the Prague Spring was counterrevolucionary. I supose you don´t know very well Cunhal biography in this aspects, because it´s 100 % true. I can even do a quick search about these in his books, and show you soon his own quotations on these. User:Mistico

To do
Olá. Para a caixa "to do" utilizo normalmente as categorias respectivas como tu disseste: procuro nomes em português (apanho muitos brasileiros!). Ás vezes faço um "find" de vogais com acentos ou com til. Algumas em que isso é difícil, esforcei-me por encontrar artigos eu próprio que necessitassem das respectivas correcções. Um abraço! Joaopais 23:54, 29 June 2006 (UTC)