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New huggle 3.1 is going to be released soon
Hi M.O.X, we are to release a new major version of huggle, but we did receive almost no feedback from our beta testing team, which you are a part of (see https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Huggle/Members). It would be of a great help if you could download it (if you have windows, all you need to do is getting http://tools.wmflabs.org/huggle/files/huggle3.1.0beta.exe and putting it to a folder where you have installed huggle) and test it. You can always get a help with making it @ !

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WikiProject Good articles Future GAN Backlog Drive
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TheQ Editor recently proposed the idea of having another Backlog Drive in either September/October or November/December of this year. For those of you who have participated in the past two drives you know I was the one who organized them, however, come September, this will be my most important year in school so I will not be able to coordinate this drive (if it happens). TheQ Editor has volunteered to be a coordinator for the drive. If any of you would like to co-coordinator, please notify TheQ Editor on his talk page.

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Hello everyone! We hope you have all been having a great summer!

As we all know, the recent GAN Backlog Drives have not had any big impact on the backlog. Because of that, me (Dom497), Figureskatingfan, and TheQ Editor have worked on an idea that could possibly finally put a dent into the massive backlog. Now, I will admit, the idea isn't entirely ours as we have took the general idea of the WikiCup and brought it over to WikiProject Good Articles. But anyways, here's what we have in mind:

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WikiCup 2014 August newsletter
The final of the 2014 WikiCup begins in a few short minutes! Our eight finalists are listed below, along with their placement in Round 4:


 * , a WikiCup newcomer, finished top of Pool A and was the round's highest scorer. Godot is a featured picture specialist, claiming large numbers of points due to high-quality scans of historical documents, especially banknotes.
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I would have used the ping thanks but it does not include my sentiments that I appreciate the time you took to add this. Much appreciated. MarnetteD&#124;Talk 02:50, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all. I figured it was an important enough detail that there should have been independent, reliable sources for it.  James ( T •  C ) • 1:54pm • 02:54, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

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File:Karam Singh Portrait.jpg
This image File:Karam Singh Portrait.jpg is being used under Fair Use similar to File:Param veer chakra.gif. It says clearly that it is a copyrighted image and it's being used under fair use. Just like images of James Foley (journalist) and As stated clearly in the file page, it is only being used in the infobox for identification of a deceased person(purpose). This is the only reliable source(indian army website) from which an image can be obtained, therefore it is not replaceable. All others are unreliabe, lack author information or are simply blogs etc. How does this not meet fair use rationale? To be quite honest, this matter is taking up so much of my personal time that I am no longer enjoying being a Wikipedia editor since it is turning into quite a hassle.Myopia123 (talk) 02:53, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Are you confusing it with the earlier file I had uploaded with a mistaken understanding of copyright, which WAS deleted?Myopia123 (talk) 02:54, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Further Clarification, File:Karam Singh Portrait.jpg was uploaded under Fair Use and File:Karam Singh.jpg was uploaded with a mistaken understanding of copyright along with a whole bunch of other pictures. I was under the impression that it had been deleted.Myopia123 (talk) 02:57, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

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Touraj Daryaee
He appears to meet WP:PROF as the holder of a named chair at a university. There seems to be no reason for deletion. I've removedthe prod.  DGG ( talk ) 03:39, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

Touraj Daryaee
He appears to meet WP:PROF as the holder of a named chair at a university. There seems to be no reason for deletion. I've removed the prod.  DGG ( talk ) 03:42, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

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Archbishop Fisher

 * Please see the RFC discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 16:22, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * That's irrelevant. This is not a job position. He has been appointed, so that's final. Installation is a formality. Asking for admin help on this matter once again.  James ( T •  C ) • 7:27 AM • 21:27, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_PH.HTM
 * Can. 147 The provision of an ecclesiastical office is made: through free conferral by a competent ecclesiastical authority; through installation by the same authority if presentation preceded it; through confirmation or admission granted by the same authority if election or postulation preceded it; finally, through simple election and acceptance by the one elected if the election does not require confirmation.
 * "Free conferral by a competent ecclesiastical authority" has occurred, therefore, installation is now simply a formality.  James ( T •  C ) • 7:41 AM • 21:41, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Also, I find it incredibly condescending of you to presume I do not know Wikipedia's basic policies and guidelines and to post a warning template. A message would have sufficed  James ( T •  C ) • 8:08 AM • 22:08, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Additionally, the Archdiocesan Twitter account mentions him as the "Archbishop-elect" and the "new Archbishop." As I said before, installation/enthronement is a formality. I quote: "Anthony Fisher calls for harmony in first address as archbishop of Sydney." Keywords: "as archbishop of Sydney."  James ( T •  C ) • 9:02 AM • 23:02, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
 * http://www.intratext.com/ixt/ENG0017/_P1G.HTM
 * Can. 418 §1 Within two months of receiving certain notification of transfer, the Bishop must proceed to the diocese to which he has been transferred and take canonical possession of it. On the day on which he takes possession of the new diocese, the diocese from which he has been transferred becomes vacant.


 * §2 In the period between receiving certain notification of the transfer and taking possession of the new diocese, in the diocese from which he is being transferred the Bishop:


 * 1° has the power, and is bound by the obligations, of a diocesan Administrator; all powers of the Vicar general and of the episcopal Vicar cease, without prejudice to can. 409 §2;


 * http://www.intratext.com/ixt/ENG0017/_P1D.HTM
 * Can. 382 §1 A person who is promoted to the episcopate cannot become involved in the exercise of the office entrusted to him before he has taken canonical possession of the diocese. However, he is able to exercise offices which he already held in the same diocese at the time of his promotion, without prejudice to can. 409 §2.


 * §2 Unless he is lawfully impeded, one who is not already consecrated a Bishop and is now promoted to the office of diocesan Bishop, must take canonical possession of his diocese within four months of receiving the apostolic letters. If he is already consecrated, he must take possession within two months of receiving the apostolic letters.


 * §3 A Bishop takes canonical possession of his diocese when, personally or by proxy, he shows the apostolic letters to the college of consultors, in the presence of the chancellor of the curia, who makes a record of the fact. This must take place within the diocese. In dioceses which are newly established he takes possession when he communicates the same letters to the clergy and the people in the cathedral church, with the senior of the priests present making a record of the fact.


 * §4 It is strongly recommended that the taking of canonical possession be performed with a liturgical act in the cathedral church, in the presence of the clergy and the people.


 * You will need to provide reliable secondary sources which indiciate that Fisher has taken canonical possession of the Archdiocese of Sydney. Inaccurate newsy reports which say he's the "new archbishop" don't count at all. Elizium23 (talk) 23:33, 19 September 2014 (UTC)


 * They came from the Sydney Archdiocese and the Vatican Press Office, hardly "newsy reports".  James ( T •  C ) • 2:28 PM • 04:28, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Where do they assert that he has taken canonical possession of the see? That would be acceptable evidence. Elizium23 (talk) 05:52, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Again, you have failed to address Canon 147. Additionally, the templates never ASSERTED that he was Archbishop in full. But, given you've selectively ignored what I have quoted and said, that would not surprise me.  James ( T •  C ) • 8:04 PM • 10:04, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Canon 147 clearly does not apply when there are much more specific canons such as the ones I have quoted. The election of a Pope, for example, not governed by Canon 147, but different from the election of a bishop, is effective as soon as the candidate says "I accept". The Pope's inauguration/installation is merely a formality. Similarly, I believe Anglican bishops are appointed in a way that differs from Catholic bishops. So I can certainly understand your confusion on these points, but I assure you that a careful reading of these Canons I have posted will clear up any remaining confusion. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 17:22, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I discussed this with one of the Archdiocesan Canon Lawyers (who serves as the Assistant Priest at my parish) and he did indeed confirm this much. I apologise if at any point in this conversation I appeared to be rude, that was not my intention. He did discuss that, nominally, Bishop Fisher is Archbishop-elect and could, therefore, be listed as "Archbishop-elect," which is what the template did, initially. But that it would have to be clear that, pending the ceremony of installation, he is not Archbishop as such. Either way, having clarified this all, I believe we should, for the sake of perfect clarity, leave things as is.  James ( T •  C ) • 10:15 AM • 00:15, 25 September 2014 (UTC)


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 * That is fine, the issue has been resolved and clarification given. Thanks anyway, .  James ( T •  C ) • 10:15 AM • 00:15, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

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