User talk:M.w.denotter

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Phil Jones (climatologist)
Please be aware that edits to Phil Jones (climatologist) may be controversial. Join us on the talk page Talk:Phil Jones (climatologist) William M. Connolley (talk) 10:38, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

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Question re your account
I'm curious if this is your first account, or if you have had others in the past. You are not, of course, obliged to answer William M. Connolley (talk) 15:36, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

I have had one account before for a special purpose - I don't use it. I made this account this morning. M.w.denotter (talk) 15:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks William M. Connolley (talk) 20:01, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Edits to Phil Jones (climatologist)
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I'm trying (and clearly failing) to understand your position on the talk page. So I'll try here, where we might have a clearer conversation. So, as far as I can tell, you wrote:


 * Dr. Jones states that the global warming has not been large enough between 1995 and 2009 to be statistically significant at the 95% significance level. 

which you source to. I cannot find that exact text on the page, and I do not think that it is an accurate paraphrase of any text on that page. Can you state clearly whether you are quoting or paraphrasing, and if paraphrasing, exactly what text you think can be used to drawn that conclusion? Thanks, William M. Connolley (talk) 20:03, 11 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The sentence you quote (Dr. Jones states that the global warming has not been large enough between 1995 and 2009 to be statistically significant at the 95% significance level.) is a parafrase of the text regarding question B. To avoid confusion about what Dr. Jones was asked and what he replied, the full question and answer are presented unchanged in the next sentence of the section under dispute: In answer to the question "Do you agree that from 1995 to the present there has been no statistically-significant global warming", Dr. Jones answered: "Yes, but only just. I also calculated the trend for the period 1995 to 2009. This trend (0.12C per decade) is positive, but not significant at the 95% significance level. The positive trend is quite close to the significance level. Achieving statistical significance in scientific terms is much more likely for longer periods, and much less likely for shorter periods." The first two sentences announce what is coming, and the Q&A sentence gives details; a very common way of compiling a paragraph. First announce the topic, then give details. The sentence Dr. Jones states that... anounces a parafrase in itself. M.w.denotter (talk) 10:35, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * OK, that is what I thought you were paraphrasing. Your paraphrase is inaccurate. As I have already said on the talk page, the significance of a trend depends on the size of the trend and the degree of variance in the underlying time series. Do you understand this? William M. Connolley (talk) 15:02, 12 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I will not start the discussion over again over here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.248.173.187 (talk) 15:13, 12 September 2010 (UTC)