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Professor Sackstein is recognized internationally as a piano educator. There is ample evidence of the close mentorship Professor Sackstein received from Maestor Arrau. To be sure, prior Arrau students metioned in the article would vouch on these facts, given that Maeastro Arrau died some time ago. Is that the proof you require?

The bigger consideraion is whether a disciple who is acclaimed for being an exemplary educator, specifically, for perpetuating the legacy of the mentor's (Arrau) technique, merits mention. The most important role of any teacher is the pepetuation of the legacy of the (forebear) mentor. In this case, note that Arrau technique is legendary, derived from the following lineage -- Beethoven taught Czerny, Czerny taught Liszt, Liszt taught Krauss, Krauss taught Arrau. Unless I am mistaken, none of the other pianists listed in the section have made a greater impact than Sackstein on maintaining this legacy. Do you have direct eidence to the contrary?


 * Why not take your argument here, where it can be discussed in the open?THD3 (talk) 22:44, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Claudio Arrau
Please see this page for the reasons Rosalina Sackstein doesn't make the cut. In this case:


 * Sackstein does not appear to be a pianist of international notabilty. Her profession appears to be primarily as a teacher at University of Miami - which is not a conservatory.
 * Without supporting evidence, there is no way of knowing to what extent Sackstein was an actual Arrau pupil, as opposed to someone who merely attended a masterclass or even took a few lessons with him.

Please understand, this article is about Claudio Arrau, not his pupils, who are only peripheral to the article. Therefore, only the most notable pupils are added. If you feel Sackstein reaches that threshold, please bring it up on the Talk page so consensus can be reached. At this point, the addition of Sackstein to this list appears to be the work of a single purpose editor.THD3 (talk) 14:10, 2 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Once again, I have reverted your edit at Claudio Arrau. Sackstein may be notable at the Frost School of Music - that doesn't make her a notable part of Arrau's biography.THD3 (talk) 12:41, 3 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your message. When adding your comments to a discussion, please add them to the bottom of the discussion for readability.  When responding to another person's comment, please add a colon for indentation.  You're welcome to create a page for Professor Sackstein, but please review guidelines for notability, third-party sourcing, and WP:BLP. Cheers.THD3 (talk) 13:08, 4 August 2011 (UTC)