User talk:MCBugatti

Michael C. Chorlton
Hi there. Do you have a citation you can add to support your edit that Michael C. Chorlton was a racing driver, please? I have removed it for now as I could find nothing in the article to support this. Many thanks, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:28, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

yes. MCC was my mothers first husband. recently, at the invitation of the Bugatti Trust (UK) i wrote a biography of MCC using family albums and records. The article was published in the Bugatti Trust newsletter winter edition 2019/20.

I also have plenty of great pictures from his racing days. All pictures are from 1947 - 1951 and i am assuming i can use any of them due to the age?

I would like to reproduce this biography on the MCC wikipedia page and i assume that you are the one that will enable that?

Thank youMCBugatti (talk) 06:08, 22 April 2020 (UTC)

hello Nick. sorry to bother you during these troubled times. can i ask if you are receiving my messages since i am totally unfamiliar with the workings of wikipedia, im amazed even to have gotten this far? thank youMCBugatti (talk) 13:44, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hello again. No, I'm afraid you didn't manage to successfully notify me of your response, as one has to include the senders name and sign one's post in at the same time. You will automatically get notified of my reply because of the fact that I'm posting on your userpage, but I've included one of the ways we add a users name just so you can see how to do it yourself later on. It should looklike this:  Don't worry - things do look complicated at first to many people, but you'll soon get the hang of it. (Should you want to know the fine details, you can read this help page, but it's not essential at this stage to know everything.) Also, don't worry too much if people appear to speak bluntly to you. It's the vagaries of writing in text-speak, plus the fact ta=hat experienced editors are often dealing with checking hundreds of edits a day, and rarely have little time to expand on the basic issue/concern before moving on to the next one.
 * Perhaps the one thing I can ask is that you appreciate that we don't allow anyone to add content that they happen to know - even if they're a world expert. We need to be able to show where any statement is derived from, and that requires a properly published resource. It doesn't have to be online (though that helps a lot), but it has to be something that, in theory, someone on the other side of the world could get hold of if they wished. Thus private archives, notes and personal recollections are not accepted - even museum-based archives and manuscripts if they're not actually properly published and available, too). The best thing is not to put anything into an article without, at the same time, including a proper and full citation (reference) to show where it come from (journal title, article title, author, page, publisher, date of publication, and url if possible. It was because you added information without the accompanying supporting reference that I removed it.
 * When you edit you always have access to a toolbar with a 'Cite' button which allows you insert citation information. I have written a guide for beginners to help them do this. See WP:EASYREFBEGIN.
 * Now, having checked at http://www.bugatti-trust.co.uk/news/newsletters/, I can see that only old newsletters are available online. The information that I removed was not so contentious that a citation to a recent, but not online newsletter, should be absolutely fine. If you have good relations with the Museum Trust, getting them to specifically publish certain articles online helps enormously. So long as it's a proper website, not one written by Joe Bloggs (and MA/AIM membership proves it is OK), then that resource can help many Wikipedians improve articles and, in so doing, help raise the profile of the Museum's own subject area. On a related note, I'm a retired museum professional myself, and I tear my hair out when I hear museum staff responding negatively to simple requests made to them to make specific photos in their collections available so that Wikipedia can help disseminate information more effectively. We have great relations with some, but by no means all organisations in the 'GLAM' sector (Galleries, Libraries, Archives and Museums')
 * Sadly, no - those pictures sound too recent to be out of copyright. Offhand - and I'd need to check- it's something like 70 years after the photo was taken and after any possibility that the copyright holder (who is inevitably the photographer) might still be alive. If you are the photographer, that's a different matter, and you can upload and release your images with no worries.
 * If you need further help, either post at The Teahouse, or post on my own userpage - where I'll definitely see your message. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 13:57, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

thank you Nick and i fully appreciate you taking the time to educate me. i will persevereMCBugatti (talk) 06:14, 25 April 2020 (UTC) I made another attempt but i think i might have failed and wasted more of your timeMCBugatti (talk) 12:22, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

April 2020
Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Michael C. Chorlton, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 12:26, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * i dont know how to add a source but i am qualified to make changes since i am a living relative. thankMCBugatti (talk) 12:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * The qualification is precisely that you know how to do it. Please see WP:CITE. That you are a relative is immaterial: things need to be verified with recourse to reliable sources. See WP:RS. Drmies (talk) 12:30, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * the 'qualification'as you describe it suggests that i should know how to technically edit a wikipedia page? or that i am a reliable source for the editing of the wikipedia page? i'm quite happy to update this page with considerable and factual information from a 100% reliable sources which is good for wikipedia. that i am willing to invest my own time on behalf of this site should be reason enough to assist me i would have thoughtMCBugatti (talk) 12:38, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Information should come from reliable, independent, secondary sources. Please follow the link to WP:RS. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 12:44, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * OK last message before i give up.i followed the wprs link, read every word, twice. i understand everything. all i want to know is what box to click on at the actual page to both edit and cite the sources so that it doesnt end up back at your place for rejection etcMCBugatti (talk) 12:51, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I've included the link in my reply above, but do check out my guide on how to add references - see WP:EASYREFBEGIN. Nick Moyes (talk) 13:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)

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May 2020
Hello, I'm Sumanuil. I wanted to let you know that I removed one or more external links you added to the main body of Michael C. Chorlton. Generally, any relevant external links should be listed in an "External links" section at the end of the article and meet the external links guidelines. Links within the body of an article should be internal Wikilinks. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. &#32;- Sumanuil (talk) 06:59, 11 May 2020 (UTC)