User talk:MDP23/Archive/Oct06

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I just thought of something else you could add to it. You could get it to watch WP:AMAIRC so we know when (in the future if it ever happens) someone has signed the request form. (just an idea) -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk) 04:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

OTR
A useful and constructive comment - thanks you for bringing an independent view to this, regards --Nigel (Talk) 11:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

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User:MartinBot I believe your bot accidentaly reverted my edit. Can you please remove the warning from my talkpage. (I have reverted your bot's edit.) Hello32020 02:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Tipu Sultan
Hello. You have left a message on my talk page and I am responding. As I see that you are an advocate of Hkelkar, I'm not sure if you're supposed to act as a lawyer of sorts, or a neutral party. Regardless, the two reverts I made to the article were this and this. The first revert was made because he seemed to completely remove another editor's insertions, even ones that were sourced. The second revert was made because Hkelkar frequently abuses popups to revert the edits of editors that he does not particularly like. You also say that "the whole contribution should never be deleted" - if you look at the contribution history of the party you're advocating, you'll find that Hkelkar frequently does this. BhaiSaab talk 23:08, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Those edits were reverted on account of being poorly sourced (if at all). BhaiSaab and his Muslim Guild henchmen (check out the cabal Wikipedia:WikiProject Islam:The Muslim Guild on wikipedia) have a tendency to make such unsourced, poorly sourced or falsely sourced edits. I have seen this before across many articles, where they use their weight in numbers to mass revert sourced edits and put in nonsensical ones. A perfect example is another DR of mine regarding Cheema on Talk:Cheema.Furthermore, check out BhaiSaab's edits here,here,here here and here where he engaged in a rather nasty edit war between SOURCED edits and his B.S. (C.S.?) ones. Regarding my tipu sultan reverts described above, try to find a single reliable source in any of those edits that I have not contested with reasonable pattern of partisanship and I will personally blow myself up.Hkelkar 23:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Your party also seems to make a lot of his own conspiracy theories - probably due to himself being a likely sockpuppet of User:Shiva's Trident (that account no longer being active since the same user uses Hkelkar account so much). BhaiSaab talk 23:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The RFCU to that effect got closed, so that's moot.Hkelkar 00:27, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Looks like BhaiSaab has little else to talk about other than his sock fantasies.Bakaman Bakatalk 01:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

As you can see these users that favor Hindutva are quite incivil:. BhaiSaab talk 02:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
 * And users that favor Islamofascism quite accusatory.Hkelkar 06:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Reference desk bot
Hey there! Thanks for jumping in and writing the archival bot. I just wanted to let you know that's really appreciated. I read somewhere you are using C# for this? Neat stuff.

I think the bot needs some tweaking, for example, this edit seems to be removing questions from Oct 8 and 9, but does a great job for Oct 7. I'm archiving manually at the moment - there might be some of my edits which might be helpful for your coding. Keep up the good work! --HappyCamper 14:08, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Ooh...you'll be trying the archiving tonight? Sure, give it a shot. We can revert/delete pages easily if necessary. --HappyCamper 18:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm not too worried if it doesn't archive properly the first time. This is a Wiki after all, and sometimes it's easier to experiment a bit. The edits the bot makes can be easily fixed. I did notice something though,
 * Wikipedia:Reference desk archive/Science/October 2006
 * Wikipedia:Reference desk/Archives/October 2006
 * Does archiving at the new place make things easier to do? --HappyCamper 20:32, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * If someone doesn't update the navigation template, it's going to break the template and create a lot of redlinks . Also, why is it archiving the content from the sandbox page in the actual archive page?--172.166.213.97 20:50, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind on the first part, I didn't notice Template:Archive header had replaced the old template--172.166.213.97 20:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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AFC closer
Is it Windows specific or can it run on Linux as well? --Gwern (contribs) 20:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I don't mind testing it, even if all I can do is report the error. (And aren't you supposed to be out now? :) --Gwern (contribs) 20:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)


 * I'd love to give AFC Closer a try if you could use an extra tester...--Aaron 16:33, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

VandalSniper
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RefDeskBot
Your bot was approved for trial. Please post your results to that page when the trial is completed. -- RM 04:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Reply

 * Thanks for intimating me.Please do whatever you think is necessary. If you wish to wait then OK.I will monitor the results of the RFCU and notify you of any developments (unless of course you are monitoring the RFCU already).Thanks again for all your efforts so far.Hkelkar 19:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I was hoping that you could send me the diffs of their posts to your talk page and your desk page. Since they were copy-pasted around a bit I'm a little confused as to which is which.Hkelkar 21:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
Your recent bot approvals request has been speedily approved. Please see the request page for details. — xaosflux  Talk  07:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

MartinBotII
Wow I didn't expect to get quick reply! Thanks btw. And also it is a good way to run the bot. Because the collaboration article is always decided on Sunday morning, probably the bot will run every Sunday, how about that? So I will send the message on your talk page and you can deliver it to the project members. Is that fine with you? Is there any other thing I can help? Cheers -- I   mo   eng  14:33, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Next week is fine, because I thought I would get a response in a month :P. Well, anytime on Sunday is fine, and actually Monday is also fine, but not Tuesday though. Okay, I am experimenting with the newsletter now. I will tell you the progress. (Keep in touch, alright? :P) Many many many thanks -- I   mo   eng  14:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
 * So its Monday morning in Australia. Okay, that is cool. Just drop me a line if you need some backup for the WP:RFBA Thanks again! I   mo   eng  15:15, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Hello again Martin, how are you? Sorry for trolling, but I saw the proposal for MartinBotII :P The problem is, the Category for WP Indonesia members in not complete, because not everyone wants to put WP Indonesia userbox. Instead, I have created a page for you, who will get the newsletter. Please see WikiProject Indonesia/Newsletter/Targets. Cheers -- I   mo   eng  09:48, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Mujeerkhan Sock Farm
I have created an active sock farm of mujeerkhan below:

Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Mujeerkhan

and have tagged the users identified as puppets by checkuser.Is there anything else I need to do ritght now?Hkelkar 00:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Your AFC application
Hi, Martin -- I decided that I'd reply to you on your own talk page rather than on WP:AFC. I would be happy to help beta test your application.... and I very well might write a Linux version as well. I was actually writing it in Java using the Eclipse Rich Client Platform. At any rate, let me know what I need to do and I'm at your disposal. Thanks! -- ShinmaWa(talk) 07:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * On a completely unrelated note, why haven't you run for adminship? You are certainly qualified.  Not interested in the job?  Waiting for a nomination?  -- ShinmaWa(talk) 07:22, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Nevermind -- see that you have. Well, if you are ever interested in another go, I'd be honored to nominate you. -- ShinmaWa(talk) 14:08, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Bedfordshire Infobox status
The template is great, thanks. The only thing I think needs changing is to remove the notes column which will not be needed as it is automatic now. Lcarsdata (Talk) 17:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot request
The amount of time required for a page to be considered stable is according to Walkerma, 3 months, or I guess 90 days. That conversation can be seen at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council. As he states there, it appears that stable pages are at least a ways off in the English wikipedia, so take as long as you see fit. However, I am certain that it will be used well before then, particularly for those poor souls (like me) who are going to have to update the Council's Project Directory. Thank you for your willingness to take this on, and, as the next Project update is at least a month away, take as long doing it as you need to. Thanks again. Badbilltucker 20:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

RefDeskBot
Wow awesome I didn't think you'd be able to get so much done so quickly. Thanks so much! I'm sure everyone at RD will be really pleased. I just read your message now so I'll take a look at everything you've done and then get back to you. freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ  12:34, 10 October 2006 (UTC)


 * One thing I might have explained a bit weird on the summary. I was intending this archive header to be used with the new system (the old one has links to the current 5 desks, which wouldn't make sense with the new 15+, and there's some small style changes). The code was copied, so it operates pretty much the same, and I've written the usage guide and everything too.


 * I haven't made any of the subpages in my namespace into real templates; I've been relying on dynamic links for everything, especially in the archives (e.g. ../Computers and technology/October 2006 ). Currently the Reference desk/Archives subpage is free, so it might be a good idea to move the archives there for testing, and if you think it would be better to move some of the subpages to Template namespace (for example, the archive header) then we should go ahead and do that.


 * One last thing for me, the monthly pages will require a header too, so I've created that here. Both archive header templates appear to be working fine, so I don't think you'll have any problems. freshofftheufo  ΓΛĿЌ  13:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Test desk
Hey, I'm trying my best to follow you around and see how things are, so forgive me if I misinterpret something. The duplicated code that you removed here is actually the base code from the top of all of the desks, and isn't related to the desk header, or the archive header at all. I'm very likely misunderstanding here, but it seems that you've attributed the duplicated code to the archive headers, and in trying to fix it reverted my previous edits to the template!

There are some leftover nowiki/pre/noinclude tags (see this edit page, right after the template code), but that's a different problem and I've mostly corrected that by removing the whole Example part of the archive header templates, which wasn't really needed anyways.

I'll won't touch any of your edits now, because I know you'll need some time to fiddle around with your bot and it's quirks, but my last edits had to do with my making all of the links static (from ../DeskName/ to WP:RD/Archives/DeskName/, and the reason why is that the way you have it now, the DeskName variable isn't even needed. I think we should use it (instead of just reading the current folder name) because it should help to prevent the bot (or archiving users) from creating archives in the wrong place, and it will make it easier to find misplaced archives if it ever happens. It doesn't make any difference in the syntax, and the resulting page is exactly the same except that the links don't point to my namespace. freshofftheufo  ΓΛĿЌ  01:12, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah if you use the ..//blahblah link while you're inside the desk it will do that, which is another reason I changed them to static links last night. The links you made were probably from the day before, so I was just a little bit late in fixing the code D :. Anyways, fixed now and I'll keep an eye on it if I notice anything fishy.


 * I'm also going to start gathering consensus on the desk situation now, (or tomorrow) and I'd say it's likely the current layout will either expand or contract by one or two desks, depending on what everyone thinks. After I get all of those discussions done with, the layout should be set in stone and you won't have to worry about things changing all of a sudden. freshofftheufo  ΓΛĿЌ  06:35, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Active questions feature
How difficult is it to tell the difference between active and inactive threads (sections)? A suggestion that came up today was to have transmutation working for the first 5 days or so (lets say, the most recent 2 days aren't transmuted, the next most recent 3 days are extracted into their own pages and transmuted) and everything that isn't active after 5 days (meaning "having no new posts for 2 days", which is pretty much everything) is completely removed and archived. Any questions that still have active discussions would remain on the page until either a) a limit is reached or b) the question becomes inactive, whichever is easier to do. Is that a big change? freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ  00:38, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I thought the same thing. Logically, either only some of the dates would remain, or all of them would be included but some of them left blank. I don't think this is an extremely important feature at the moment, but if the need arises it's good to know that it can be done relatively easily. freshofftheufo  ΓΛĿЌ  23:41, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Use of bot?
Martin, thanks for your offer to use your bot. I'm connected with Wikipedia 1.0 plans for offline releases of Wikipedia, and I was involved with setting up the bot used by WikiProjects to generate worklists and assessment data. Not that I know anything about writing scripts or anything, I just come up with problems then beg for help from someone who does know about such things.

We are looking ahead to 2007 releases, and we'd like to generate lists of articles pulled from our existing WikiProject lists. This is something we've talked about for some time, you can see an example of a recent suggestion/discussion here. I'd ask Mathbot, but Mathbot is already pretty tied up with the existing work (over a third of a million articles right now, and growing), and I don't want Oleg to have to add another level of complexity to it. In effect I'm asking for a bot to trawl through the lists Mathbot generates, to produce its own lists (much shorter). I envisage something like this: That way we might be able to generate quickly a list of all the natural science articles suitable for publication. I imagine the code for this could be quite similar to Mathbot, with a few changes. I would expect it to work through WikiProject Set A, then Set B, then Set C, etc, until it completes all of our sets of WikiProjects.
 * 1) Go through a specific set of WikiProject article worklists (say, from a set of Science project lists), and pull out all articles of a certain minimum quality standard and importance standard.  This might be done according to some formula, or it may just be "All articles ranked B or better, and mid-importance or better"
 * 2) (Optional) Check for any POV tags or other red flags on the article pages.
 * 3) Generate a worklist, simple alphabetical list, log and statistics from the above data.
 * 4) Repeat the run once a week.

I think we would generate WikiProject sets manually, based on subject category (as listed at V0.5) and also how high up the tree the project comes. Thus we might have Arts at the top of the tree, then Music, then Music genres, then Electronic Music, then the KLF. I don't think we'd apply a simplistic formula for ranking these, we would take each one on a case-by-case basis, because we'd also have to take into account how that project assesses for quality & importance, to compensate for project biases. In other words we don't want project A getting all their articles included on our DVD simply because they tagged everything as Top-importance and B or better.

Does this make sense? I estimate we could end up with a collection of about 10-20,000 articles by next summer. Would you and your bot be able to help? Thanks for your time! Walkerma 20:59, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks a lot! Don't hesitate to ask questions! Walkerma 18:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Another bot possibility
Coming off your comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Council, there's a task within the Trains project that might be a good candidate. Like a few other projects, we've got a list of articles, categories, images, etc. that relate to the project; the list allows project members to see all the recent changes with one link. To make maintaining the list easier by hand, each section in the list is a transcluded subpage (for example, the section for articles whose titles start with S is on WikiProject Trains/Recent changes/S). Ideally, the list should show everything that's tagged with TrainsWikiProject on their talk pages. Would your bot be able to collect links to all of these pages and add them to the appropriate recent changes subpage on a regular (perhaps weekly or fortnightly) basis? AdThanksVance. Slambo (Speak) 17:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

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Bot request
Having the date of the last edit listed would be great. Whenever you're finished will be fine. Thank you very much for this. Badbilltucker 18:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

 * I am about to act on your advice in the talk page. I would think that it is okay to close the case for now.However, if any issues arise again, I would appreciate informal help on your part regarding this matter.Hkelkar 19:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
I've added a question at Bots/Requests for approval/MartinBotII 3. — xaosflux  Talk  05:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Bot progress :D
Hello Martin, how are you? So hows the bot going? Ready for it's first delivery? By the way, I was thinking that probably there are some users who don't want to receive the newsletter, rather, probably they want the link only. Could you put that configuration to the bot? If no, I will "spam" their talk pages with my own two hands :D. Thank you very very much -- Imo  eng  10:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Okay, the newsletter is ready at User:MartinBotII/WPIndonesiaMsg. Cheers -- Imo  eng  04:43, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * It worked out great! Thanks very much -- Imo  eng  03:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Thanks for the note - I currently have 4 open cases. Thanks again, Addhoc 20:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Association of Members' Advocates
Hi, you are receiving this message because you have listed yourself as an active member of WP:AMA. If you aren't currently accepting inquiries for AMA, or if you have resigned, please de-list yourself from AMA Members. If you are still active, please consider tending to any new requests that may appear on Category:AMA Requests for Assistance. We're going to put AMA on wheels. :) Sorry for the template spamming - we're just trying to update our records, after we had a huge backlog earlier in the week (if you've been taking cases, then sorry, and please ignore this :)). Again, sorry, and thanks! M a  rtinp23  21:06, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I just felt it was only fair - what with me not being on a case at the moment :) M  a  rtinp23  21:07, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Association of Members' Advocates
Hi, you are receiving this message because you have listed yourself as an active member of WP:AMA. If you aren't currently accepting inquiries for AMA, or if you have resigned, please de-list yourself from AMA Members. If you are still active, please consider tending to any new requests that may appear on Category:AMA Requests for Assistance. We're going to put AMA on wheels. :) Sorry for the template spamming - we're just trying to update our records, after we had a huge backlog earlier in the week (if you've been taking cases, then sorry, and please ignore this :)). Again, sorry, and thanks! M a  rtinp23  20:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Martin, I'm surprised to hear from anyone on the AMA at all, as I signed up months back, left messages, and never heard a word. Now I get two messages within days, one of which tells me to de-list myself if I'm not accepting cases, and one of which tells me I should use a userbox I'm already using, and that if I have any questions, I should ask the coordinator, who never responded. For the record, I am currently working a case, but didn't bother to list this on the AMA page, as the project appeared inactive (no response from the coordinator for two months, little activity on the talk page, etc). Thanks, Firsfron of Ronchester  21:42, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Martin, thank to you I'm returning to the AMA! --Neigel von Teighen 22:26, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Vandal warning
Would you care to explain why you have just issued me with a vandal warning quoting a diff ive not even edited? thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 12:58, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Ahh yes i see, the software is still BETA, no problem anyway then, just got a bit shocked i recieved a vandal warning. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 13:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

bot malfunction
The RefDeskBot seems to have a problem. It duplicated the first eight topics of WP:RD/M in its latest edits. --KSmrqT 14:12, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Regarding Association of Members' Advocates
re: ''Hi, you are receiving this message because you have listed yourself as an active member of WP:AMA. If you aren't currently accepting inquiries for AMA, or if you have resigned, please de-list yourself from Wikipedia:AMA Members. If you are still active, please consider tending to any new requests that may appear on Category:AMA Requests for Assistance. We're going to put AMA on wheels. :) Sorry for the template spamming - we're just trying to update our records, after we had a huge backlog earlier in the week (if you've been taking cases, then sorry, and please ignore this :)). Again, sorry, and thanks! Martinp23 20:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)''

Hey! Your sig needs fixed... no talk link as colors would suggest. On the above, RL has priority and I'm currently not doing much but checking wiki-messages maybe twice a week... Hope to be back in the saddle regularly circa mid-November. Cheers // Fra nkB 16:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Lookz gud! I'd redistribute the letters and colors groups somewhat, but then I be partial to green! Cheers! // Fra nkB 01:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

AMA message
On the template on my page you stated (more or less), that if I'm active, then I should take a case, but if I'm not accepting cases, then I should resign and remove my name from the AMA list. Well, I'm currently in the middle of my midterms, so I'm not accepting cases. But I'm also not gonna remove my name. What I'm saying in essesnce, is that in future please make sure that you word your messages more carefully. Also, try not to give people ultimatums. Oran e ( talk  •  cont. ) 17:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Some comments on Tipu
I don't know if you are aware of the Hindu right wing in India whose aim is to rewrite Indian history in its own terms and while Mr. Kalekar has tried to distance himself in one of his comments before from the Hindu Nationalists - it remains that almost all of the edits have been done with that perspective - ultimate aim being to bring the Muslim cultural past of India in a bad light and eventually to negate or claim the Muslim heritage as their own - the destruction of Babri Masjid,is a case in point - here you can also observe Kelkar inserting a text claiming that 3000 temples were destroyed in Muslim rule basing them on a few controversial authors .This new negationism manifests itself with claiming that millions of Hindus were massacred by the Muslim rulers because of their religion in their 800 years rule while most of the history till now in India as well in reputed international books do not support any such theories.It is not mine but Kalekar's edits that are replete with personal attacks and twisting and turning - intermingling issues like support for Osama or Terrorism.A few articles below would tell you of the mentality of these Sangh parivar Supporters -
 * Despite concerted efforts to project Tipu in poor light, the fact remains that historians are unanimous in affirming that he was an enigmatic personality with tremendous curiosity who preferred reform and reason over religion.
 * In these 'histories' the desecration and demolition of temples by the medieval Muslim rulers form a central theme, substantiating thereby the iconoclastic beliefs as well as the religious fanaticism of the followers of Islam. Such an interpretation, howe ver, overlooks two significant facts of medieval history. First, as Richard Eaton has shown in a recent essay, well before the coming of the Muslims to India temples had been the sites for the contestation of kingly authority. The early medieval history abounds in instances of desecration and destruction of temples of their political adversaries by Hindu rulers. The Cholas, the Pallavas, the Chalukyas, the Palas and many others had indulged in this 'irreligious' act.12 Secondly, most of the desecration and destruction took place when "Indo-Muslim States expanded into the domains of non-Muslim rulers". Once the territory was conquered and integrated into the kingdom, such expression of 'fanaticism' rarely occurred. Tipu Sultan, for instance, desecrated temples during his invasion of Malabar, but after the conquest he gave generous land grants to several of them. Also he is not known to have desecrated temples in his own kingdom. On the contrary, when a Hindu religious institution like the Sringeri Mat was plundered and destroyed by a Maratha chieftain, Tipu Sultan had met the expenses for its reconstruction.

My request to Kelkar, Bakaman and supporters to kindly present your views in a different section below.Only Martinp to reply in this space.Thanks for your understanding TerryJ-Ho 19:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Babri Masjid has nothing to do with Tipu Sultan, and I have nothing to do with the Tipu article either. Dont drag my name into this bakwaas. The Sangh is infinitely more citable than the Marxist/Missionary/Mullah axis.Bakaman Bakatalk  20:08, 8 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Check my sourced referenced attesting to Tipu Sultan's persecution of Hindus in the AMA page and one will clearly see TerryJ-Ho's rather disgusting anti-Hindu stance and his tendency to cite radical left-wing and Islamist-sympathetic op/ed mouthpeices.Hkelkar 00:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, Please do check and you will find most articles referenced are from either University sources or Newspapers and those are not published by Muslims themselves TerryJ-Ho 12:32, 9 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Plus, Terry's claim of "historians unanimously agreeing" to Tipu Sultan's egalitarianism is obvious hokum given my references from scholarly sources suggesting him to be a persecutor and mass murderer.Hkelkar 22:31, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you support this POV
Kelkar has made this statement implying that you support his edits on Tipu Sultan page. While I would like you to disregard the tone and language used against me.Do you agree to his contention that you support his edits? TerryJ-Ho

Equality Ride Page Vandalized Again
Hi! You said I should contact you if the vandalism happened again. Well, it did. Could you please warn this user again? I honestly think this guy needs to get banned. I'm leaving for a class now, so I don't have time to fix the it.

Thx!

RD desks ready for archiving
All have been manually archived up until (including) October 16th, so we're ready to have the bot run from the October 17th posts on if you are. If you have any problems with Template:Archive header, Template:Archive header monthly, or anything else, let me know. I'll be online at work for another few hours on-and-off, and I should be on a little bit after work to check on things. freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ  03:35, 23 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Excellent, everything seems to be working perfectly, an attest to the soundness of your code. The archives have never looked so sparkly clean. I'll keep an eye on the edits, especially approaching next month.


 * You've probably noticed the white space it creates at the top of each page (one line per day, when it removes the oldest transcluded page). It's easy to fix manually though, and I don't think anyone has noticed, so not really a problem.  freshofftheufo  ΓΛĿЌ  02:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Also, there's a few changes I'm going to be making to the archive headers, so I figure I should let you know. Right now, after editing transcluded pages you return to the archive page instead of the actual desk (this is the way it has always been, and not a problem). The most current transcluded page makes it appear as if there is are no questions newer than it (which, of course, is false, because they just not yet transcluded), so I'm going to make the nextDay link conditional so that it will point to the current desk when it can't find a transcluded page.


 * Also, there is currently no way for users to know if they are browsing a real archive page or if it's simply transcluded, so I'll put in another conditional statement that will let them know if the page is still "active" on the desk. Once again, thanks for everything. freshofftheufo  ΓΛĿЌ  02:15, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

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:-)
Your RD bot is wonderful! --HappyCamper 13:12, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

ref desk indexing
I stumbled across something which might be a parsing glitch. Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/2006 October 22 has 17 sections but the index of it on Reference desk/Archives/Miscellaneous/October 2006 has only 16. Section 6, "1944" is missing, perhaps because it is all digits. -R. S. Shaw 19:26, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

Thebainer and an AMA case
Hi. I would like to voice my concerns over Thebainer regarding a case that was never resolved. Hwacha is in conflict over a trvia section that lists games. Over a month ago, Thebainer for the most part dropped off the face of the earth. I have been patient with him, but I feel he may have decided to ignore the case. Your note asking him to update any records and asking him to take on new cases also suggests he has decided to leave the case without telling me. May I ask for a new advocate if he has left? --  Orbit  One    [ Talk 22:13, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:RFBOT
Your current bot approvals request has been approved for trials. Please see the bot page for details. Thank you, — xaosflux  Talk  01:16, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

RDB user page
User:Freshgavin/Sandbox/RefDeskBot. Use the code if you like! freshofftheufo ΓΛĿЌ  05:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

User:MartinBotII/WPStability
I'm curious as to how you classify something as Stable versus Unstable? I ask because WikiProject Mountains/List of mountains is marked as unstable (along with a couple other of the project's pages). RedWolf 17:50, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Badbilltucker bot
Actually, these are the exactly the kinds of results I was looking for. I'm afraid I horribly misphrased the original request, and that seems to have generate some confusion. The purpose for the bot in terms of the projects is to determine which projects have not been changed in the past 90 days. 90 days is currently the period of inactivity required to get a project officially declared "inactive". I seem to have confused you by throwing in reference to the "stable" articles which wikipedia may soon be seeking in the English wikipedia. That is supposed to take place soon, and that is referring to all of the articles in wikipedia. There, any article which has not been modified in the past 90 days will be considered stable, and in terms of articles, that's a good thing. It's not at all good for projects, but that is really the proximate use anyway. I figure to run the bot about once a month, generally around the end of the month, to determine which, if any, of the existing projects deserve the "inactive" tag. Of course, it will also list all the new projects which have been created in the interim, and that saves a lot of time. Thank you very much for the work. Badbilltucker 20:47, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * The phrasing is entirely up to you. And feel free to rerun the results tomorrow, but you won't get anywhere near the same results. I think including the project subpages might be a good idea though, as that could be where activity is taking place. Oh, who am I? I am the mechanical split personality of the guy above, and I have been plastering all the project talk pages with notices about the new project directory, which will indicate activity on the talk page today. However, as this is a once in a lifetime occurrance, the existing list will identify those which avoided my wanton littering, and it's already proven useful in identifying the projects which have just recently been created. Thank you again. B2T2 21:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)