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Hi Martin
Removing the legal notice is not a problem for me, but to say it is after the fact, is contradicting my job as a WikiPedia Spam patrolman.

I did not put the notice after you blocked the anon IP user but before. I put the notice because I saw abuse of other editors being brought to administrators notice board Incidents#Anonymous_threatening.

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Please word it appropriately, for future references. Thank you, Igor Berger (talk) 15:34, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * OK. NPA templates usually serve no good purpose at all other than to annoy a user.  That's the ultimate reason I overwrite your warning in my edit conflict.  Thanks, Martinp23 15:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * The problem is that I know how it is to be in front of the ANB for days while an anon abuses you, so when I saw the talk at the ANB and looked at the anon history I saw many problems covering all gama of abuse. We need to react quicker to Social Engineering Malware abuse. Also we need to educate our editors to explain the policy of WikiPedia to anon so the problem does not escalate to abuse. Maybe the anon just did not know how we do things by consensus. Anyway just trying to help out with the common cause..:) Igor Berger (talk) 15:51, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Wikibreak
According to your user page you have been on wikibreak since September 2007. I have a sneaky suspicion that this is not true! :) --kingboyk (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

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So how do I get to my archived stuff???--Thevardonrushes (talk) 18:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

and what is anybody going to do about the suspected sockpuppets that I think of thanks.--Thevardonrushes (talk) 18:21, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

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I've been a a coachee of User:Academic Challenger for some months now. But it seems that he is going on a long-term wiki-break and I'd like to continue on the coaching track. Would you be willing to take me on as a student? 02:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Following the instructions for NPWatcher led me here
Hi, I really strongly do not wish to download version 2 of the dot net framework, so could I have a link for XP? Thank you!  Y   ДмΔќʃʀï →ГC←  10-30-2007 • 00:24:35
 * I'm around 500 edits (with my doppleganger), but I probably won't put in for approval for a few months, feel free to drag the process of notifying me of the link.  Y   ДмΔќʃʀï →ГC←  10-30-2007 • 00:31:27
 * Unfortunately there isn't one any longer, due to various problems - I can only really recommend installing .NET 2. Martinp23 17:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

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I think that you have misunderstood what you have seen. I didn't code the bot. I created the account, but not what it does, and it has been "run" through his account, though it isn't a "bot" per se, I speedy approved it becuase of all of the work that has already been done on its "tasks" that I didn't need to have it run a trial on that account, as it has been run on his main account, it is not written on code, it is manually done and assisted.  ~ Dreamy    §  20:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually he does need the bot flag because of the intent of the bot, it creates articles, and so they need to be automatically "patrolled", and so that they don't show up in Recentchanges, as they are created at a bhot-like speed, about three-six pages a minute.  ~ Dreamy    §  20:43, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, the only other way to have what I stated above is to have been made an admin, and he has refused that before and doesn't want it now, I will have him comment on the BRFA page.  ~ Dreamy    §  20:47, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, 'tis no problem, mate. I would have made the same conclusion as well. I am commenting currently on the BRFA page.  ~ Dreamy    §  20:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

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Oops. Sorry about that. Do you have any thoughts on a method to mark the templates that are always substituted or would have a reason to be transclusion-less? I thought about a &lt;noinclude> template on the Template page, but then I thought about something simpler like a category on the Template_talk: page. At the moment, it can be sort of a guessing game, or at least, pretty hard to tell, if a template is substituted or not. Cheers. --MZMcBride (talk) 19:41, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
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Look at this article, please.. Thank you! --BiH (talk) 18:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

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Can you tell me about the auto-refresh interval? Mostly how much the ratio of the numbers to real time. I've tried asking on the NPW page and on Snowolf's talkpage but neither of them have received a reply. Thanks.--Sunny910910 (talk 00:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
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I investigated a parallel bus company that the AMT oversees too. It's the Société de transport de Montréal. There is a bus pass on it. Altough the image used is clearly not the same but the size and plastic type used is the same, take a look at Image:Cam-may-2005.jpg. Even tough it's not the same company, the STM allows the AMT bus pass to be used entirely on its service territory. It has been uploaded on Commons and look at the tag. I feel like it's the appropriate one. Thanks! -- Par t <font color= "#00008B">y! Talk to me! 16:06, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

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 * Glad things got sorted out :) Martinp23 22:21, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

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Hi Martin

I thought I should notify you that I have just mentioned you in an ANI post, which you may want to look at. It's this post in Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, where I seek some clarification from BAG in general. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
 * See also [. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:28, 7 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You have said: "It just need to be impressed upon BAG members that community input is of paramount importance. I've said it dozens of times now on WT:BAG, and as a result of this will produce a short message reminding BAG members exactly what the standards are and what I for one expect us to do. Seriously - I go on and on about how community input is the most important thing." - would you be able to point out where the previous discussions on WT:BAG are, and where the short message is (once you have produced it)? You also say that "the operators are all available on IRC and I for one am willing to help as far as I can via my talk page or (preferably) email" - I accept that bot operators will use IRC a lot, but is there any reason why lots of discussion (such as the discussions on that bot approval request) are taking place off-wiki? Could you also impress on BAG members the need to discuss things on-wiki as well as off, and that all actual actions and decisions need to be justified on-wiki if requested (and even, in many cases, if not requested)? Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 10:50, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Most recently probably my comment of 21:17, 31 January 2008 (UTC) on Wikipedia_talk:Bots/Approvals_group/Archive_5. As for IRC - personally I find it helpful for sanity checks.  I believe the established wisdom is that we never make onwiki decisions offwiki (though this isn't the case in many fora).  I do agree with you that it's a problem, and probably something best brought up at WT:BRFA or WT:BAG. Finally, my my message. Martinp23 16:42, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

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Wikibreak my foot. :-P —<b style="color:#002BB8">Animum</b> (talk) 21:35, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
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Was I unclear on this point?
Jayron continually now attacks my talk page. Perhaps I was unclear. My last act will be to undo the damage caused by Tiamut's sockpuppet and then I am gone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by M1rth (talk • contribs) 15:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)


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A while back I ask on the wikipedia help desk about wikipedian [|Youth Group] you can read the topic for details on the question but as you can see I was directed to you. Do you have any information on my question? Arkkeeper (talk) 20:30, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

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YO dude, it wasn't me who made that edit to Cork!! I didn't, I swear on Bill Gates' life! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.232.234 (talk) 10:06, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Statement by User:KingsleyMiller

There is an unofficial policy operating in Wikipedia which condones the use of bad language ie swearing. The Wikipedia Administrator with the user name Martinp23 used the F word whilst editing (LINK). Wikipedia Administrators do not have special privileges and if other Editors can see Martinp23 get away with this form of intimidation they will feel there is nothing to stop them from doing so also. In this case the Editor with the user name CWii felt free to follow suit (LINK). CWii followed this with a warning to me about my behaviour on my user page (LINK). Martinp23 has also made comments about 'banging heads together' and that he knows this 'sort of dispute'(LINK). For somebody sitting on the Wikipedia Mediation Committee to make such comments without knowing the facts of the case is inappropriate.

I am asking the Arbitration Committee to decide that Martinp23 and CWii be restricted from any discussion in which I am also involved as well as any other sanction that may be appropriate. If no sanction is deemed necessary I should like the policy of swearing to be formally adopted by Wikipedia so that individual Editors may be prepared to know what to expect when they challenge the established status quo.

(cur) (last) 15:32, 27 May 2008 Martinp23 (Talk | contribs) (97,679 bytes) (what the is going on here? mediation started or not? I suggest you make your minds up) (undo)

(cur) (last) 15:53, 27 May 2008 CWii (Talk | contribs) (109,684 bytes) (?Martinp23 - Swearing: --- look mommy i sweared!) (undo)

KingsleyMiller (talk) 08:05, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

You need this, for that
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Just a note
I actually think it was appropriate of you to go to Bugs talk to express your concern over him continuing the drama. Just the threat of a possible block, then the follow up of "I don't care then" really bothered me. In my subtle way, I think I was saying, you did what was right by closing down that ANI for the time being, and even telling Bugs you didn't think he was helping was fine too. Just the block threat... Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 13:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Heh, yes, I know. It was rather inflammatory and would have been best avoided. Thanks, Martinp23 13:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Is this a joke? I hope so. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs 17:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * (e/c) I hope so too. <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  17:16, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

No, for now I really don't wish to contribute. Hopefully this will change in the future as the community comes together (if it doesn't, I expect it will fall in on itself). I don't think me being here at the moment is going to help that goal, either! This isn't a feeble attempt at drama, and my status will have hardly changed from before, except that I won't be suddenly appearing from nowhere! Requests for comment/Community was prepared by me before something happened IRL which made me realise I coudln't carry on here, not at the moment. I'd still like to see that discussion go on, if anyone cares about it :). Thanks, Martinp23 17:30, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Best of luck to you then. I'll go rephrase my snarky comment left there, I assumed worse than you intended.  Cheers, <font color="#21421E" face="comic sans ms">Keeper   |  <font color="#CC7722" face="Papyrus">76   |  <font color="#ff0000"> Disclaimer  17:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Urgh, I meant to do this before. Apologies to baseball, wknight, kingsely, or anyone else I've offended recently. I hope that even if I've been somewhat "direct" and brash, you've been able to see what I mean behind that. Sorry. Martinp23 17:43, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not familiar with you but you seem like a reasonable albeit burned-out Wikipedian. Been there, done that, and breaks of various lengths have done wonders for me in the past!  Don't be a stranger.  —Wknight94 (talk) 18:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

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I recently got a message regarding an edit I didn't make -- I've never made an edit to a Wikipedia article, so you may need to evaluate your system of tracking modification —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.131.204.247 (talk) 02:01, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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Some help, please?
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Your the one thats wrong
Hey man dont you dare say I was uncivil or said something wrong. It wasnt even mean. Dont come to me with that stuff. I said right thankyou. You are wrong. Being blocked 3 times is not good. I could have been alot wronger and I was not wrong. So maybe you should get your head together before you talk like that.<font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="silver">Gears <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Of War  22:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

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 * I reacted this way because he came to me like i did something wrong. The discussion was closed and we all settled the whole thing. Okay maybe I missed it by one but I will not let people be like that. My whole attitude to that situation is that I had better things to do than get dragged into a conva that could get me called uncivil. Thats why I orriginally deleted his comment.<font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="silver">Gears <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Of War  17:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

<font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Gears <font face="Times New Roman" size="2.0" color="black">Of War  20:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)