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Reply to Question at the Help Desk
I am not arguing with you. However, I still do not understand the concept.::Okay, I found the copyright tag and labeled it. It was still marked as "no copyright tag". How do I fix it? Image:T.C. 1.jpg is going into the Theodore “T.C.” Calvin page, as soon as I figure out what is wrong with the copyright image. Then, I am fixing the licensing on Image: Jonathon Higgins, to tvscreenshot. Will that solve that problem? Third, what picture then should go into the Harrison Ford infobox? Would this one (Image:Harrison Ford 1) do it? ~Gatorgirl623~ 01:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Please look at my talk page again and explain what that says so I can understand it, and what I need to do to fix it. ~Gatorgirl623~  00:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Dodgers logo.jpg)
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Query regarding fair use of team logos.
Hi Mecu,

I have been working articles on The Indianapolis Colts (my home team) for several months now and find that one of the more divisive issues for me is the size of the logos in use. This has shown up particularly in the "season" articles of late, where the inordinately large displayed logo has seemed to me to be an issue.

When I reduced the size of the logo from a 150px to a 100px image, it was immediately reverted by User:Soxrock. I attempted a dialogue to compromise with him on the size of the image and came to a dead end. I didn't want to get into an edit war with him, as I do understand that I don't own these articles. But, my frustration led me to examining more NFL team pages and more image files, thinking that a weight of evidence might help to be convincing.

This resulted in me seeing a history of uploads and reverts to image sizes which mostly revolved around User:Soxrock, User:TheSportsLogosMaster and you. Exploring further, I saw that a large number of these logos come from the same website:, which maintains a large stock of copyrighted logos. There is a claim on this website which basically says that all of the logos retain their original copyright and permission for use can not be provided by the website owners.

Again, digging deeper, I saw that most of the logo image files claimed fair use as on of the following:


 * NFLTeam logo 1997-present, claiming fair use http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=xxx (showing a image location)
 * NFLTeam logo 1997-current, claiming fair use Copyright: Sportslogos.net (no location, but claiming a copyright)
 * NFLTeam logo 1997-current, claiming fair use Copyright: Sportslogos.net http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=xxx  (copyright+location)

None of the logo images that I reviewed contained an actual fair use rationale (as dictated by the template).

So I am in a quandry...

First, with regard to the licensing:


 * Should Sportslogos.net be listed as a copyright holder for the image, when they claim the opposite?
 * Should all of the images actually have a fair use rationale?
 * Should all of the images have a source location listed?

Second, regarding the upload image size, some of the images from Sportslogos.net are very large physically (albeit small in file size).


 * Does this meet the "low resolution" claim in the licensing template?
 * Should they be resized before uploading?
 * How can the image size reversions be precluded (edit wars)?
 * Since the large-sized images are on WikiPedia, doesn't that compromise our database, since we follow free-->forward.

Third, with regard to the actual use within an article (which is mostly esthetic):
 * Can the Season template force the image size to be be within a restricted size or does it depend on the original image?
 * Is there a WikiPedia guideline which lays out how large the images should be in an article?

So, I have probably overused my quota of questions in this query, but you seem to have a grasp of both sides of the fence, both the image uploading side and the image control side.

If these questions are not something which you have the time or expertise in answering, could you please re-direct me to the best source for help?

Thanks for taking the time to help!

Take care,

Larry Lmcelhiney 15:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

CFB navbox
Updated CFB navbox as requested. Sorry about the long wait I've been very busy since the semester started. --Dispenser 06:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Reply to Question at the Help Desk
I am not arguing with you. However, I still do not understand the concept.::Okay, I found the copyright tag and labeled it. It was still marked as "no copyright tag". How do I fix it? Image:T.C. 1.jpg is going into the Theodore “T.C.” Calvin page, as soon as I figure out what is wrong with the copyright image. Then, I am fixing the licensing on Image: Jonathon Higgins, to tvscreenshot. Will that solve that problem? Third, what picture then should go into the Harrison Ford infobox? Would this one (Image:Harrison Ford 1) do it? ~Gatorgirl623~ 01:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Please look at my talk page again and explain what that says so I can understand it, and what I need to do to fix it. ~Gatorgirl623~  00:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:Dodgers logo.jpg)
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Orphaned fair use image (Image:Dodgers3dlogo.jpg)
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Orphaned fair use image (Image:DenverBroncos 100.gif)
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Orphaned fair use image (Image:Bengals 6.gif)
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Query regarding fair use of team logos.
Hi Mecu,

I have been working articles on The Indianapolis Colts (my home team) for several months now and find that one of the more divisive issues for me is the size of the logos in use. This has shown up particularly in the "season" articles of late, where the inordinately large displayed logo has seemed to me to be an issue.

When I reduced the size of the logo from a 150px to a 100px image, it was immediately reverted by User:Soxrock. I attempted a dialogue to compromise with him on the size of the image and came to a dead end. I didn't want to get into an edit war with him, as I do understand that I don't own these articles. But, my frustration led me to examining more NFL team pages and more image files, thinking that a weight of evidence might help to be convincing.

This resulted in me seeing a history of uploads and reverts to image sizes which mostly revolved around User:Soxrock, User:TheSportsLogosMaster and you. Exploring further, I saw that a large number of these logos come from the same website:, which maintains a large stock of copyrighted logos. There is a claim on this website which basically says that all of the logos retain their original copyright and permission for use can not be provided by the website owners.

Again, digging deeper, I saw that most of the logo image files claimed fair use as on of the following:


 * NFLTeam logo 1997-present, claiming fair use http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=xxx (showing a image location)
 * NFLTeam logo 1997-current, claiming fair use Copyright: Sportslogos.net (no location, but claiming a copyright)
 * NFLTeam logo 1997-current, claiming fair use Copyright: Sportslogos.net http://www.sportslogos.net/logo.php?lo=xxx  (copyright+location)

None of the logo images that I reviewed contained an actual fair use rationale (as dictated by the template).

So I am in a quandry...

First, with regard to the licensing:


 * Should Sportslogos.net be listed as a copyright holder for the image, when they claim the opposite?
 * Should all of the images actually have a fair use rationale?
 * Should all of the images have a source location listed?

Second, regarding the upload image size, some of the images from Sportslogos.net are very large physically (albeit small in file size).


 * Does this meet the "low resolution" claim in the licensing template?
 * Should they be resized before uploading?
 * How can the image size reversions be precluded (edit wars)?
 * Since the large-sized images are on WikiPedia, doesn't that compromise our database, since we follow free-->forward.

Third, with regard to the actual use within an article (which is mostly esthetic):
 * Can the Season template force the image size to be be within a restricted size or does it depend on the original image?
 * Is there a WikiPedia guideline which lays out how large the images should be in an article?

So, I have probably overused my quota of questions in this query, but you seem to have a grasp of both sides of the fence, both the image uploading side and the image control side.

If these questions are not something which you have the time or expertise in answering, could you please re-direct me to the best source for help?

Thanks for taking the time to help!

Take care,

Larry Lmcelhiney 15:51, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

CFB navbox
Updated CFB navbox as requested. Sorry about the long wait I've been very busy since the semester started. --Dispenser 06:39, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:"Group Hug" Hint Guide Artwork (Crash Bandicoot).jpg
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Image:MichealAddisonmugst.JPG
No free verison of this image exists on the internet. Websites likethis and this have the same image. Storm05 14:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * A free version of this image cannot be created since this is a mugshot image relesed by the police department and not an image taken by an ordanry person (also a mugshot image of the person is better for the background section than an image of the person standing trial (which can go into the trial section) or him being transferred). Storm05 17:33, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Because mugshot is better than a picture of him being transfered or standing trial and a mugshot is appropate for the bio section. see the William Morva article for example. And i will stated above, pictures of micheal addiosn standing trial should go into the trial section of the article and pictures of Micheal Addison being transferred should go into the Capture and extradiction section of the article not the seciton about the person himself.Storm05 12:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, family photos and other photographs of Micheal Addison are nonexistant online. Storm05 12:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Added rationalle. Storm05 12:46, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Incorrect. Then that will be inapprate for the section that it is illistrating, which is about the person. Storm05 14:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image_talk:MichealAddisonmugst.JPG"
 * In other words a picture showing micheal addison being in court cannot go into the background section because the background section is about the person not the trial and it will confuse the reader. Same goes with the transfer which can go into the subsections in the October 16, 2006 shooting.Storm05 14:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

Just so you know, I've deleted this pic.--Nilfanion (talk) 23:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Changes to NCAATeamFootballSeason
Per a request on the template talk page, I am trying to add functionality to allow this template to work with both college football and basketball. I'd appreciate your feedback. I have a working prototype up at User:Nmajdan/Test. Please take a look and let me know what you think. I'm also going to inform WP:CBB.↔NMajdan &bull;talk &bull;EditorReview 20:51, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You can use multiple templates on page, just as I did on my test page. So I don't understand that argument. I believe that, where appropriate, templates should be combined. There is much overlap in the two already. Also, what do you mean different enough in the long run? I'll still leave it open for discussion before making any changes. We'll see if the College basketball WikiProject has any input.↔NMajdan &bull;talk &bull;EditorReview 22:20, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

NY map showing Catskill Park
Go ahead and delete it. Seems like it's one I've replaced with a better map. Daniel Case 01:48, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

Fair use reduce?
You have tagged an image that I recently uploaded to wikipedia - 40px - and I was wondering what the issue is. I have informed the Scout Association who own the images of what I am doing with them, and they have not taken issue with the use of the images in wikipedia articles. Horus Kol 00:47, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, I see your point... is there a way to replace the image with the same name? I'm trying to follow a standard name convention. Horus Kol 00:58, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I have set it down to 300px Horus Kol 12:43, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

ActiveDiscuss tag
Hey, Mecu. When is it appropriate to use the activediscuss tag and how does it work? -- Charleca 20:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Here is an example of a plce it is being used -> Benadryl. It's the "This article or section is currently being developed or reviewed." box. --Charleca 23:46, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

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Copyright question
Hi Mecu, I've been asked by a user (a photographer) how they could add there pictures with limited copyright, for instance, there more than happy to upload them for use within wikipedia, but just don't want to release it completely free from copyright. Would a fair use tag be appropriate? Ryan Postlethwaite See the mess I've created or let's have banter 19:52, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Re: CFB Portal
Crap! Completely forgot to make them. I'll take care of that now. Thanks for letting me know. I remembered to do Portal:Oklahoma and I still need to find a picture for Portal:Sports. Ugh, its been a busy week at work, so I'm a little behind. Thanks again.↔NMajdan &bull;talk 20:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Help regarding your response regarding the copyright tagging of images for Bruce Hornsby
I've sent the permissions to m:ORTS for all of the images, but I do not know how they should be tagged. The owner of the copyrights has given permssions for these images to be used and, in accordance with the form letter Wikipedia offers for making such requests, he has agreed to make the images totally free for anyone to use in any way they see fit. I still don't know how to tag the images now, though, while I am awaiting response from m:ORTS, nor do I know how the images should be tagged afterwards...any ideas? Snidleysnide 22:23, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I meant m:OTRS, sorry. Snidleysnide 22:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thank you kindly. Snidleysnide 22:59, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I've made the changes, could you check them out if you have the chance...any of the four photos of Bruce Hornsby on the page will have the same info (they're all from the same source)...the album covers are different. Everything is working out, except I've been accused of being a sock puppet, which is a bit unnerving. Snidleysnide 23:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I've reconfirmed and received reconfirmation from the copyright holder, fully supporting the use and the tagging. I sent a separate reconfirmation to m:OTRS, given the curiously high level of contention surrounding the uploading of images to the Hornsby article. Thanks for your help...Snidleysnide 19:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

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DFRGNCR
Sorry, I hadn’t noticed the category before. Maybe the template should mention that it doesn’t apply to JPEGs, but I can’t think of any good way to do that at the moment. —xyzzyn 22:59, 4 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Cool. Also, . —xyzzyn 23:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Club Magazine Cover
My apologies about the censored version I put up. I actually did not realize that Wikipedia had no problems with pornography. I personally have no problem with it, I just assumed it was an oversight. Once again, I apologize for the mistake and appreciate your correction. Thank you. HiB2Bornot2B 04:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

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What to do with my image
its your little bro here. what do i do with the barnstar i created? it is for the excellent usage of edit summaries, which i feel are very important. i put the media up at the commons, but how i do create a template for it and neat little tags so other users can utilize it?

The undertow 05:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)



awesome, as per usual! tx Mecu! The undertow 22:34, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

tx again, we shall see how it goes! Awesomeness

The undertow 05:26, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

The Peace Fund
Hi Mecu!! I finally did it!! I created my own original article!! I'm not that excited about it really...:) Anyway, I was shopping at Macy's and they are having a Shop for a Cause Event on 3/17.  I looked this organization up in Wikipedia and it wasn't there so I added it.  What do you think?--LtlKtytalk 06:22, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I've incorporated many of the changes that you suggested. As to your comments on notability - I doubt that very few articles achieve a high standard of notability upon creation.  That would be a bit like being born a grownup.  That being said, I did insure that a level of notability was established as defined in WP:ORG.  The establishment of the organization and some of its contributions were the subjects of independent second sources. Now that the article exists, I am sure that our community of editors will continue to evolve it toward the highest standard of notability - as is being done with other articles.  As you can see on my user page, I've already made a note to myself to look for more citations.  The editor request service should be a good place to start. Of course, the information I find will be added to the article in accordance with the NPOV policy.  As for apologizing for your harshness - if your usual ascerbic tone should suddenly soften I might just keel over in shock.--LtlKtytalk 18:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. Thanks for your help.  All kidding about your ascerbic tone aside, you've been a great guide and very objective in your critiques of my activites.  I've learned a lot from you about being an editor, being able to collaborate and being part of the Wikipedia community.  Maybe one day I'll also choose to participate in the adoption program as an adopter and I'll use this experience to guide me in working with adoptees.  See you on the talk pages!--LtlKtytalk 20:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Temporal Issues
whats wikipedia's stance on temporal usage. for example, i see 'even today, even now, lately, recently...' i dont understand how an encyclopedia can use 'today' as a reference. is there a link i can view? thanks. The undertow 06:33, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

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Noel Fielding Picture
What's the problem? The author has given me the photo to use for Noel's page. I've sourced everything. Would a change of licensing help? -- Bang Bang You're Dead 20: 58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * How do you know the authors intentions? -- Bang Bang You're Dead 21:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, working on it. -- Bang Bang You're Dead 22:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

CU colors
I didn't change the school colors, I changed the note next to the school colors, making it clear that the colors were supposed to be Silver and Gold, not Black and Gold. K e rowyn Leave a note 03:57, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It's all right. I've flown off the handle at people before as well. The only chore I can think of is getting some GDFL images for the UCB page to illustrate Norlin and Macky, and maybe a picture of Folsom as well. Obviously if you don't live in Boulder any more, that'd be way too difficult, but it's something I've been meaning to do. K e rowyn Leave a note 20:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Image Help Time
i created an article about an american artist Chet Zar, and was given permission to use an image of his on wikipedia. the image came via email, with his blessings. its up for speedy deletion because, im guessing, that there are problems with images that can only be used on wikipedia. however, it also says that art, if its used to show a style or for critical value, can be acceptable under these terms. it hasnt been deleted, but i assume it will. how is one supposed to display the works of an artist? i figure since the image is very important to the article, and i have written permission, there has to be artistic exception. The undertow 05:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
 * ugg. the image was deleted. rrr. i shall sleep.  too much beer makes Chip a bad wiki editor.The undertow 12:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

i asked the owner for a portrait. he sent me the image that he felt best represented his work. im not going to ask him to relinquish rights to the image, as that is not fair. i also dont want to bug him to create his own account, and upload the image as his own work. what to do...The undertow

can u help me archive my talk page?The undertow 09:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * okay, i have the image uploaded and linked to Chet Zar. So far, so good.  Let me know what you think. The undertow 22:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)


 * i went ahead and changed the link to the author's site. i have sent an email regarding more information on the work. i figure if i can find out about the actual portrait, then i can easily incorporate it into the article. ergo, no more decoration. ;) The undertow 23:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Would you mind helping?
I am trying to start a wiki that is focused on wrestling and video games. I figured that since it uses the same design as Wikipedia (MediaWiki, or whatever it's called), that I could basically copy wrestling and video game templates like and , but they aren't working. Here is what I ended up with. Would you mind creating a few templates there? Specifically: Template:Infobox VG, Template:Infobox Wrestler, Template:Infobox Wrestling event and Template:Infobox Wrestling team since those are the only four I would really use. Thank you in advance. TJ Spyke 23:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Sailor Moon Lead images
While i under stand you ment well but we can't make them any smaller. There are key detials that just too blurry to make out now. They were that size for a reason. Lego3400: The Sage of Time 15:46, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry wasn't clear on that SM = Sailor Moon. I have alerted the others in the wiki project and they should take care of it Lego3400: The Sage of Time 15:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Transparent/Opaque Backgrounds to Images
Why have you marked several of the images I have uploaded as Opaque when they are obviously transparent?:


 * Image:Morph-Rich-Logo.png
 * Image:Scr-Fx-Logo.png (I have corrected it already)
 * Image:Bush-Rdo-Logo.png

J.P.Lon 00:58, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I made them myself, and ensured they have transparent alpha channel. If you look at the morphy richards logo (it's the easiest to see), it has a checked background. J.P.Lon 01:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I just had a look on IE (I used NS) and it shows it with a darker background on IE, but shows on the Morphy Richards page having a white background. J.P.Lon 01:38, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

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Create
May you help me create a bot?Trampton 15:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC).

Need sources for the following:
- A Link to the Past (talk) 19:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Fairusein
I think that you're right... the behaviour we want from Fairusein with a null parameter is the same as Template:Nrd; a big deletion warning and population of deletion queue. I'll be happy to make the changes, if the template formatting to make this happened is worked out. Jkelly 00:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * It looks like the category functioning works. Can we get an alert to render instead of the default missing parameter } behaviour?  Jkelly 19:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

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My RfA
Hi Mecu. Wonder no more, I'm an admin now! Thank you for participating in my RfA. Rest assured that I heard every voice loud and clear during the discussion, and will strive to use the mop carefully and responsibly. Please don't hesitate to give me constructive criticism anytime. Xiner (talk, email) 13:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Image Use
I asked my adopter TeckWiz this, and I was told to ask you. I was looking for pictures of some relatively obscure bird species that I started articles for, and I was unable to find any that weren't copyrighted. Could you recommend some ways to get images, or tell me how copyrighted images can be used in an article? Thanks Australian Raven 21:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
 * So sorry to bother you again, but I have a question regarding requesting permission. I found the form letter, and I'm assuming I use my own email.  Is it really necessary to give my name?  Also, when requesting permission, do I just copy the URLs of the picture, the article, etc. or do I make a link? Australian Raven 00:05, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Last question (I think) - Is it okay to just use the form letter in requesting permission, or must I add some stuff to stress that they must license it freely? Australian Raven 00:12, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar damn you
By the way, since you are so good with tables, I wonder if you would please take a look at User:Johntex/Sandbox2 and give me some feedback. I am thinking about filling this in and moving it to my user-page to replace the somewhat boring list of articles I've helped with. Thanks! Johntex\talk 17:28, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Mecu, thanks for playing with my table. It is definitely prettier now, but it is no longer sortable. Being sortable is one of my prime objectives.  For instance, I want people to be able to quickly group together all the FA's or all the articles I started or all the articles I took a picture for.  Any ideas on how to make it pretty while still keeping the sorting? Johntex\talk 14:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmmm... Well, thanks for trying.  With the table the size it is now, it is not a big deal, but I plan to make this a big table, so the sorting could be an important feature.  I guess I could put the "yes" in front of the check-mark-symbol (like I did with FA/GA).  That seems to allow the sorting to work.  I do like the color coding you put in on the FA/GA column.  I can at least keep that if nothing else.  Please let me know if you have any other inspirations.  Thanks again, Johntex\talk 15:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

List of Division I-FBS college football stadiums
Thanks for letting me know - it's all good. At first I thought it was a mistake, but at that time I didn't know Air Force Academy is also a locality as well. Great work on the article, by the way. -- Blue a g 9  (Talk | contribs) 21:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

AFD
so i stumble upon this article, James Earl Salisbury,and it seems non-notable - no external refs and all OR, as far as i can tell. i look at the history at see that his son created it. now i have never done an AFD but i think this article merits it. i dont really want to offend the guy by rubbing out his dad from wiki, but i think the article is wp vanity. what are your thoughts? the_undertow talk  23:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 * i had previously read the talk page (you are teaching me well), which was the reason i felt the afd would be controversial. ive never done one, so i will read up on it, and go thru the motions today.  the_undertow  talk  20:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use image size
Mecu, quick question. Is there a set resolution size for fair use images?↔NMajdan &bull;talk 02:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Have a good weekend
hey dood. im burning out on fighting the vandals. how can i get involved and help you with images? the_undertow talk  06:26, 17 March 2007 (UTC)