User talk:MECU/No Permission

I am proposing a new CSD reason for images: No Permission under CSD I4.

CSD I4 current states: ''Lack of licensing information. Images in category "Images with unknown source", "Images with unknown copyright status", or "Images with no copyright tag" that have been in the category for more than seven days, and which still lack the necessary information, regardless of when uploaded. Note, editors sometimes specify their source in the upload summary, so be sure to check the circumstances of the image.''

It would then state: ''Lack of licensing information. Images in category "Images with unknown source", "Images with unknown copyright status", "Images with no copyright tag" or "Images with no verified permission" that have been in the category for more than seven days, and which still lack the necessary information, regardless of when uploaded. Note, editors sometimes specify their source in the upload summary, so be sure to check the circumstances of the image.'' (bolding used to show change only)

Images where the uploader doesn't take credit and posts a license such as GFDL with or without a statement made to the effect "I got permission from X to upload." could be listed as "No permission". Or they simply state a source and/or author and know Wikipedia is under GFDL and put that to avoid Fair Use strictness. Most images with a GFDL license are ignored unless a user is scouring for correntness and then willing to list at WP:PUI. An example of this type of image is Image:Forbidden_Love_painting_by_Beata_Kubik.jpg. Frequently these get listed at WP:PUI (sometimes at WP:IFD) and have little conversion or involvement with the uploader and most conversations follow the same path:
 * 1) Uploader:"I got permission! What's wrong!?"
 * 2) Image processor: "Please see WP:COPYREQ and forward the statement of release to WP:OTRS"
 * 3) ...time passes...
 * 4) Image is saved once OTRS processes the images or deleted after 14 days (minimum, standard WP:PUI time, 5 days at IFD).

This would be applicable to all free images where the uploader does not claim to be the source (uses the self or a tag that includes self like PD-self), the source given does not support the free claim (ie, an image from a Navy website is tagged with a Navy PD tag or a free license on an image where the source website does not state the same license or no license) and no OTRS ticket is present.

I am attempting to make the no permission a standard process that removes PUI and IFD from the process. Commons has a no permission template that is frequently used (not as much as No Source or No License, but still used) and has been around awhile. I think the new process should be applicable to all images regardless of upload date (no grandfathering in). I made a demo template for the tag at User:MECU/No Permission. This seems to meet the "speedy deletion" criteria, as it has a clear fact, doesn't really need discussion at IFD or PUI and happens routinely. Further, a benefit of this would be that images, once verified are then moved to Commons (yea!). I don't expect this to be a major controversial move, but since it involves lots of work to implement into CSD, I figured asking first and seeking community support would be better than having to undo my work and waste my time. MECU ≈ talk 17:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)