User talk:MGMT90018 2015S2 Ethical Leadership/sandbox

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I think this link will be useful, especially for Antecedents, Consequences and Measures part (Brown, M. E., & Treviño, L. K. (2006). 711387MGMT (talk)

Your part looks good Lynn, now to add in your references! 396851MGMT (talk) 06:04, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm still trying to figure out how to do the referencing. Anyone have any idea? 524376MGMT (talk) 10:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

Seems like you found your way! Will need to consult you after I'm done writing! :D 396851MGMT (talk) 14:58, 17 September 2015 (UTC)

I think the conclusion sentence (the last line of the Antecedents part) is not needed for this assignment as i think we're just supposed to state facts and not conclude anything :) 396851MGMT (talk) 11:16, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

okay! I'll remove it 524376MGMT (talk) 13:04, 19 September 2015 (UTC)

The link to OCB page seems to be broken. Should we just remove it? 524376MGMT (talk) 02:03, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

There is a real OCB page. but i can't seem to link it!! not sure why. need help with it! 396851MGMT (talk) 01:52, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Guys, I'm a bit struggling with the History part. If you found any resources that can relates to it, kindly let me know. And oh, dont worry bout the references. Will work on that later :) 711387MGMT (talk)

I have fixed the OCB link for you! 524376MGMT (talk) 02:00, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Kelly did mentioned something about ethical leadership vs profitability - maybe she will have some references for that. I'll try to check whether i have some info on that :) 524376MGMT (talk) 02:07, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

I think Dita already mentioned it in her part :) 396851MGMT (talk) 04:57, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Added content for measures. There is one more measure than could be included, but it was very specifically designed for school principals. Will add references now, must every bit of content be referrenced???691777MGMT (talk) 04:14, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

I think it's better to cite every source? but not necessary at the end of each sentence? as long as it is clear where the source are from. 396851MGMT (talk) 04:57, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

The correct referencing should be after the full stop?? 524376MGMT (talk) 04:58, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Let's stick to American spelling to keep the article consistent. organiZation, behaviOR etc691777MGMT (talk) 05:02, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Yes, after full stop. 711387MGMT (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 05:08, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

So let's start editing from the top:

"Ethics may generate various responses, started from “doing things right” (suggested by National Education Association in 1975) to “doing the right things” as Peter Drucker explained it (1973, 1985, 1988, 1992, 1993).[1] Others define ethics using a self-questioning approach, such as “How 'should' I (we) behave?” and therefore define it in a practical way as the art of determining what a person as an individual as well as in society is expected to do when challenged with confronting values, circumstances, consequences, etc.[2] For this part In a general sense, Sherwin (1983) referred the term ethics to a set of guidance in people’s behavior, which consist of moral norms and principles or values.[3] Societies judge both unethical and ethical behavior using their subjective knowledge of right and wrong or good and bad.[3] Moral sentiments can be influenced by neutral, positive or negative valance.[3] In addition, many scholars offered moral philosophy to deontology and teleology.[3] While the former is reflected as a non-consequentialist theory of evaluative approach, the latter represents the opposite - a consequentialist method to evaluate moral judgment - as Crane and Matten described.[3]" Should we make this more neutral? and maybe you should link the theories to existing wiki pages so it's clearer if readers don't understand. 396851MGMT (talk) 06:01, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

I think most definition will be quite subjective. But if we can source it from the credible scholars, I think that would be fine. Aout the linked theories thingy, that sounds like a great idea 711387MGMT (talk) 06:08, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Overlapping referencing source:

1) 8, 9, 11, 39 & 60 Ethical leadership: A social learning perspective for construct development and testing

2) 10, 17, 28 & 49 Ethical leadership: A review and future directions 524376MGMT (talk) 06:18, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

New overlapping referencing sources: 9, 15, 26, 46  524376MGMT (talk) 07:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:File_Upload_Wizard&?withJS=MediaWiki:FileUploadWizard.js Here's the page to upload an image! 524376MGMT (talk) 07:12, 20 September 2015 (UTC)

Is it just me or did the images I uploaded of Burke and Howard gone??? :O 396851MGMT (talk) 03:12, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

No, I can't either 711387MGMT (talk) 06:00, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I can't see too! might be removed by Wikipedia~ anyway i suggest we keep the definition for ethical leadership only since the lecturer want us to stick to our point 524376MGMT (talk) 12:04, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Yea, checked the history. it's removed by wikipedia due to some copyright problems or what not. will try it again after I'm done with changing my part. And i agree with only focusing on the ethical leadership part and no need for "Ethics" and "Leadership" 396851MGMT (talk) 13:13, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, initially I was thinking bout that either. But then, definitions about "ethical leadership" are quite limited and most of them are typically define it the same way, so I can paraphrase 2-3 sources altogether. That's why I need to expand the definition a bit to "ethics" and "leadership". What do you think? 711387MGMT (talk) 14:11, 21 September 2015 (UTC)

I think still just focus on "ethical leadership" for the definition. and say this is the most common used/most cited definition for ethical leadership. what does the rest think? 396851MGMT (talk) 01:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Probably include the ethics and leadership thing into the history and how it transform into ethical leadership 524376MGMT (talk) 02:38, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Kelly, do you need help with the consequences? 524376MGMT (talk) 02:39, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, good idea Lynn. Gonna try to do it tonight 711387MGMT (talk) 03:46, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm done with consequences version 2! Feel free to edit them :) 396851MGMT (talk) 10:30, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Dita, are you still working on Definition and History part?

Hey can you get it the history part by tonight? 524376MGMT (talk) 04:41, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm done editing my part. Should all of us read the whole entry and make an edit if necessary? And then maybe Joel can do the final editing, simply bcos he speaks better english than the rest of us hehe. What do you guys thin? 711387MGMT (talk) 10:36, 23 September 2015 (UTC)

I was looking through and editing the page, and I'm a bit confused by this sentence in the History section: "A successful leader should be a person who possesses these skills: trait, ability, skill, behavior, and relationship." (edited earlier to change "equipped" to "possesses"). Not sure what exactly is meant here, as trait, ability, skill etc aren't quite skills? Dita could you re-phrase this sentence? 691777MGMT (talk) 13:47, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi Joel, done already. "Moral Identity is defined as a set of principles that guide an individual's behaviors and decision making. Moral identity serves as a self regulated mechanism in assisting an individual to act ethically in a given situation." Lynn, could you provide reference to these sentences? 711387MGMT (talk) 14:44, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Done! 524376MGMT (talk) 23:56, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Hi guys, please check your references before submitting! there are two invalid referencing need to be modified 524376MGMT (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 23:57, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Reference: no 34 & 46. Does everyone finish editing? 711387MGMT (talk) 01:00, 25 September 2015 (UTC)

I'm done 524376MGMT (talk) 02:10, 25 September 2015 (UTC)