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Speedy deletion of Stonecroft Ministries
A tag has been placed on Stonecroft Ministries requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company or corporation, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for companies and corporations.

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The article started thusly: "Stonecroft Ministries is a non-denominational, non-profit Christian organization providing global leadership in women’s ministry. Its mission is to equip and encourage women to impact their communities with the Gospel of Jesus Christ." which is not written from a neutral point of view, but from a favorable/selling one. The body of the article more than once informs and encourages readers to go to the group's website for its doctrine or to purchase products. That's advertising. And additionally, the article does not demonstrate that this group has had significant coverage in reliable third-party sources as required by our inclusion guidelines, see WP:N. I'll take you at your word that you have no connection to the group, so you need not familiarize yourself with WP:COI - but you cannot use the group's websites as the primary sources of your information for any article - those sources are neither reliable nor third-party and are likely to contain puffery and bias (as would a website maintained by a group opposed to this one). Look at the BBC, CNN, Time Magazine, or the New York Times, and such for coverage of this purportedly large group. Any group with 40,000 members would have received coverage in such publications. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 17:30, 24 February 2009 (UTC)