User talk:MHughesDBS

Managing a conflict of interest
Hello, MHughesDBS. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the request edit template);
 * disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
 * do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also please note that editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Theroadislong (talk) 11:52, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Hello Theroadislong,

Thank you for informing me, I was just curious to see what was written about our company for research purposes. I of course know we cannot advertise or promote on Wikapedia and that was not my intention. It was just something a customer mentioned, and we wanted to look in to the possibility. I hope this is still allowed?

Kind regards,MHughesDBS (talk) 12:22, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

Reply
First note that Theroadislong will not be aware of your reply above. If you want someone to see a posting, either put it on their talk page, eg my talk page, or You can alternatively leave a message on this page, and they know you have done so if you start it with their user name, eg User:Jimfbleak and sign it with four tildes ~ when you post it. That will send them an alert.

As you have already been told, you have an obvious conflict of interest and you must declare it. If you work directly or indirectly for an organisation, or otherwise are acting on its behalf, you are very strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. If you are paid directly or indirectly by the organisation you are writing about, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:   . If you are being compensated, please provide the required disclosure. Note that editing with a COI is discouraged, but permitted as long as it is declared. Concealing a COI can lead to a block. Please do not edit further until you respond to this message.

Also read the following regarding writing an article
 * you must provide independent verifiable sources to enable us to verify the facts and show that it meets the notability guidelines. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the organisation, press releases, YouTube, IMDB, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the organisation claims or interviewing its management. Note that references should be in-line so we can tell what fact each is supporting, and should not be bare urls. The deleted text had no in-line references of any kind, just a link to the company's own website, obviously not an independent thrid party source
 * The notability guidelines for organisations and companies have been updated. The primary criteria has five components that must be evaluated separately and independently to determine if it is met:
 * significant coverage in
 * independent,
 * multiple,
 * reliable,
 * secondary sources.
 * Note that an individual source must meet all four criteria to be counted towards notability. We need hard verifiable facts such as the number of employees, turnover or profits, not product lists or opinions


 * you must write in a non-promotional tone. Articles must be neutral and encyclopaedic. The deleted text was pure promo written in the first person, eg In 2000, we established our U.S. office, signifying our efforts to develop our presence in the international market.
 * there shouldn't be any url links in the article, only in the "References" or "External links" sections.
 * you must not copy text from elsewhere. Copyrighted text is not allowed in Wikipedia, as outlined in this policy. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation, unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. We require that text posted here can be used, modified and distributed for any purpose, including commercial; text is considered to be copyright unless explicitly stated otherwise. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. The text I deleted was largely copied from the Leoch website, and could also have been speedy deleted for that reason.

I note that you have little editing experience here, and I wonder if you have the competence to produce a neutral balanced article without getting yourself blocked in the process, a fate that befell a previous editor.

We often restore deleted text on request, but for legal reasons we don't do so for copyright violations such as the deleted version of the article. In any case, it was unsourced company promo written largely by a now-blocked paid editor, so better to start from scratch.

If you are determined to attempt to write an article, please make sure that the topic meets the notability criteria linked above, and check that you can find independent third party sources. Also read Your first article. You must also reply to the COI request above. Jimfbleak - talk to me?  13:37, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for declaring your COI Jimfbleak - talk to me?  16:43, 1 November 2018 (UTC)