User talk:MJCdetroit/Archive 9

American Samoa
Hi. I really need a map created quickly for Template:Location map American Samoa. ANy chance you could work out the coordinates using Image:American Samoa-CIA WFB Map.png and create it. May have to be a trial and error thing but we are in the middle of getting a geobot approved which will generate content using the standard infoboxes and as many sources as we can find by country  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 10:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Check my contrib's. It's the best I can do on my lunch break.  It doesn't cover all of A.S. &mdash; MJCdetroit (yak) 17:28, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

Hi thanks for that. Could you also work out Template:Location map Guam and Template:Location map Anguilla. Once Sadalmelik becomes active again I hope to get a replacement for Anguilla as it could do with a lesser busy map. I was hoping he would create the canadian province maps too. Regards  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 13:59, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Any idea why the pin isn't working for Sandy Ground, Anguilla? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 21:31, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

Harpchad's back
Hi - In case you didn't notice, just thought I'd let you know Harpchad seems to be back. -- Rick Block (talk) 00:26, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. &mdash; MJCdetroit (yak) 02:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

request for comment

 * Hello. I would appreciate your comments here and here. Thank you. Thunderbird2 (talk) 18:33, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
 * That looks like a lot of reading. I'll see what I can read tomorrow, but if I can't read all of it, I won't respond.  Only reading some of it would be unfair to all parties.  &mdash; MJCdetroit (yak) 03:04, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Whatever you find time for is appreciated. I value your opinion, but I understand your reason if it doesn't work out. Thunderbird2 (talk) 16:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Pushpin map for Israeli infobox
Hi MJCdetroit! Your last edit to Arad, Israel reminded me that I wanted to talk to you. After reverting your changes to all Israeli town userboxes (I hope you didn't take it personally, no bad feelings were intended), after consensus was reached on WP:Israel, we reached a problem - I was not able to copy the pushpin map from the original template, and now we don't have pushpin maps at all. Blofeld of SPECTRE, who seems to know you well, suggested that I ask you to help us copy the pushpin map code to the Infobox Israel municipality template. Can you help? Thanks, Ynhockey (Talk) 20:16, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I seen Arad was up for peer review. For a variety of reasons, my time on wiki is very limited these days, I can check it out tomorrow during my lunch break, but I can't promise anything.  &mdash; MJCdetroit (yak) 20:32, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe that WP:Israel held on to this infobox partly out of national/project pride and partly for aesthetic reasons. Infobox Settlement or in Israel's case Infobox Municipality, now satisfies all the objections that you had a originally had.  Your last objection had to do with transliterations, which are now part of Infobox Settlement because of the need for multiple transliterations in places like China (Example:Dêlêg).  With the standard infobox capable of doing so much more than the Israel Infobox (as demonstrated by this discussion), I foresee the Israel one being standardized again in the future, but not by me.  It's seems that it will be inevitable, but until that day comes...


 * Yes I can help. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 20:48, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Good luck with that. If somebody else does standardise them in the future for Israel you can be guaranteed it won't be me. I wasted a lot of time sorting out the overcategorization issue only to be reverted several days later. Whether place sin Israel have 30 different types of settlements or not I also feel that pride plays a big part of it   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 02:30, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

L/T S/T M/T
I've brought the issue of the use of the solidus in unit abbreviations which involve not division; e.g., "L/T", "S/T" & "M/T"; at MOSNUM talk. Those who voiced their opinion seemed to agree that the like should be avoided. However, this is what had been using, so I wonder what your thoughts are. J IM ptalk·cont 00:19, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm ok with it, too. I wonder if we should try to find a better abbreviations for them or invent something on our own (now that could be dangerous).  In any case, it's not like I've got the time these days anyway.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 03:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'd say that "LT" & "ST", which also uses, are better.  But are they good enough?  Will they be understood?  These are not exactly our own inventions: Google turns up hits for "LT" & "ST" but also turns up other stuff as well even "mt" for "metric ton" (which, of course, is just plain wrong).  So, "LT" & "ST" might be keepers, perhaps not "MT", but I'd say the versions with the solidus will have to go.  I'll be getting Lightmouse to have a crack at them with his bot. J IM ptalk·cont 06:10, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
 * It could work. Not that the road signs are any reference, but they do use "T" to express [short] tons on bridges over here. But ST and LT are a little more to the point.  FYI, in my line of work this is a solidus.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 12:46, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Your monobook needs to be updated to avoid an error
Hi,

Your monobook needs to be updated to avoid an error. The convert template code has changed and it will no longer accept 'sq' or 'cu' with metric units. Thus '|sqkm|' will have to be changed to '|km2|'. All existing pages have been updated. Any new use of the template with '|sqkm|' will produce an error on the page. The code for non-metric units is unchanged and can be either '|sqft|' or '|ft2|' format.

For example: should be changed to
 * $2 sqft
 * $2 sqft

If you want more advice, please ask at Template talk:Convert. Or ask me, I would be glad to help you update your monobook code. Regards Lightmouse (talk) 09:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I got all of them. Please double check. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 13:57, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Generating lists of places
Hi WP:GEOBOT recently got the all clear and we are in the infancy stages of planning. We think the best thing to do initially is to create a full gazetteer by district or province for the world in lists.

Please could you make some suggestions on how we might have a small pushpin map and coordinates in the infobox. I've done it here but ideally we want the map to fill in most of the block with the globe coordinates underneath. What would you suggest? E.g see Mare aux Hippopotames. To have a non infobox map like that but with coordinates underneath that could fit neatly into the tables for each place ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:23, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

If you have any recommendations for how to create a better styled list or format please mention here or join in the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Geography/Bot. Please offer your thoughts thanks  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 18:38, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
 * See Mare aux Hippopotames &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 14:10, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

How can you can rid of the caption underneath? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 19:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC) It really pisses me off that some countries like Israel and Pakistan insist on using their infoboxes like Sadwal they look a frickin mess. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 23:50, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what you meant about the caption but I've taken out the caption here. As for the Pakistan deal, get rid of it! It is shitty--plain and simple!  The largest cities in Pakistan already use  and have for a while. I've switched the example over to the standard box (here), the rest is up to you.  I support if you TfD the Pakistan infobox when I get back from vacation (~July 8).  Good Luck. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 14:29, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

CHange it to transcription then. As long as the parameters aren't removed. Oh dear is there a national pride thing at stake agian with changing infoboxes? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 16:21, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Burma
Okay, I have created Requests_for_mediation/Burma. I have added you along with added 18 other users (including myself) to the list of involved parties. The ones I have listed are ones who have commented recently, or who commented on the Mediation Cabal case (except if they solely made a neutral comment). If you disagree with me listing you there, remove yourself from it if you wish. If you feel someone else should be involved, add/ask them. I hope those I have added are alright though. I also hope this step is what finally ends this dispute! Deamon138 (talk) 00:29, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

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 * Good. Hopefully, people will stop beating that poor dead horse and bury it!  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 02:46, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I've started a new page for structured mediation if you're interested. BigBlueFish (talk) 13:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Stop the lawyering, bury that dead horse and live with it. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 13:42, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the constructive observations, but I have absolutely no faith in the alternative you defend. Do you really think we can answer every newcomer who asks "Why is this article at Burma and not Myanmar?" with "because that's where it ended up and we got fed up of trying to agree on a decision" and expect it to stick? Maybe we should have pre-eminently told the user who created the article at Burma to bury the dead horse and live with it and not create the article at all. Otherwise, at what point do you suppose the horse actually died? BigBlueFish (talk) 13:56, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * The horse died at the Mediation Cabal and as I stated there, I would have respected any conclusion that the panel came to&mdash;Burma or Myanmar. I had hoped others would have done the same and stopped any further appeals.  I guess that horse won't get buried until every avenue of overturning the consensus to move to Burma is exhausted with every ounce of energy available.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * We learned nothing new at the Mediation Cabal. In the words of the third and deciding bureaucrat Warofdreams: "I wouldn't expect my comments to be used as a precedent or argument against the article being moved". There was no consensus then and there is no consensus now. I apparently cannot reiterate enough that I am absolutely content with keeping the article at Burma if there is consensus to do so. I have no interest in "overturning" anything. You have no obligation to contribute to the efforts to find consensus, but you could at least show some consideration for others' attempts at progress. BigBlueFish (talk) 18:47, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
 * There was consensus to move the article to Burma. Since then, there hasn't been any consensus to move it back to Myanmar (or even some hybrid name).  The attempts to find consensus have all been to moved the article again because the pro-Myanmar folks were not happy; i.e. overturn the first RM.  Looking at all the discussions/votes, one will notice that a greater amount of energy and passion is being exerted by team Myanmar.  Team Burma just says something like, Support keeping at Burma, here's why then that's followed by 15 lines of why they're wrong.  If you are truely content with the article's current name then place that energy into improving the article.  I don't mean to be disrespectful but it's just silly at this point.   &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 20:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Lebanon
Hi. I;ve been recategorizing Lebanon but the annoying thing is the infobox Lebanon has automatic categorizing so in order to recategorize it I have to frickin add new infoboxes and its tedious work. Could you edit the Lebanese infobox and remove the automatic categories e.g Settlements in... or change it so whatever governorate it is in it reads as e.g Category:Cities, towns and villages in North Governorate e.g like Choueifat. PLease rid of the district categories for settlements because it is overcategorization, -i'll create new ones later for general articles in a district   ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:01, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

E.g all the articles and sub articles in Category:Settlements in the Mount Lebanon Governorate need placing into the one Category:Cities, towns and villages in the Mount Lebanon Governorate. For instance Baabda should only be in the one category named above. The main categories are shown at Category:Cities, towns and villages in Lebanon. COuld you help me? I also need to sort Category:Villages in Lebanon and place them in the main governorate categories as above. ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I seem to have got some success in changing it but I will need to some help to replace the old boxes at a later date. I dislike rigid categories that cannot be altered in an article  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 19:32, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Pakistan
Oh dear. Arun Reginald has added the map to the wonderful Template:Infobox City Pakistan but right at the complete bottom of it (rather than the top) as a way to regard "othe rmapping variables" e.g standard infobox as redundant. I fear he may replace the standard infobox in places with this piece of tripe. I think we should come down hard on the infobox and put it up for deletion. The limiations of it are not good, TFD? ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦      $1,000,000? 12:32, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
 * TfD it. Nothing that the standard can't do already.  Delete it.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:41, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

El Salvador
Hi can you tweak the El Salvador map. See Nueva Esparta, El Salvador  ♦Blofeld of SPECTRE♦       $1,000,000? 16:44, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do in the next ten minutes. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:50, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Seems to be working well now. Please check. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 17:11, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Russia
Thanks. Any thoughts on this? ♦ Dr. Blofeld ♦      "Talk"? 16:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * E, does good template work and the Russian one is not bad. Eventually, we'll have to put our heads together to find a way to standardize the Russian cities to infobox settlement.  It's nothing I want to tackle at the moment.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:30, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

weather templates
I'm not sure if you're the one that deleted the template Average and record temperatures, but somebody deleted it without checking that it wasn't being used by articles anymore. Because the article Flagstaff, Arizona, for one (I'm not sure how many other articles were using it), was using it, and now has a red link there. You appear to be changing templates over to the Infobox weather, but I think there's still issues with that that need to be resolved. For starters, the 'show/hide' option is just total bullsh*t for a table with only like 5 rows. And I can't set 'collapsed=No' to prevent it - it still collapses the table. I'd personally just nuke the collapsible option. Either way, you need to make sure that templates are not being used by articles BEFORE you delete them. Dr. Cash (talk) 14:30, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No, I'm not the one who deleted the template, that was User:Maxim. Please take that up with him.  In the mean time I've restore the template until it can be switched.  If you want the infobox not to collapse leave that option "blank".   Regards, &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 14:36, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Fixed the last six and re-deleted the template and the doc page. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 06:45, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Using new detailed maps with pushpins in Template:Infobox Israel municipality
hei there.. I saw that you have recently added Israeli maps to the Israeli cities/villages templates. In the last week I have been trying to fix up even better maps (the ones which are currently in use in the Hebrew Wikipedia) without much success (the technical part is very confusing to me). I would be very glad to get assistance in order to get the maps to look exactly like they appear in the Hebrew wikipedia with the push-pins and everything. Acidburn24m (talk) 05:42, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do tomorrow at lunch.&mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 02:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * I got some tips from the guy whom created those maped to work in the Hebrew wikipedia.. he is currently too busy to help me out but I think that if I would explain to you what he explained to me we might figure it out together. is there any way I could contact you through IM ? Acidburn24m (talk) 05:15, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * No, sorry. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 13:06, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Infobox Israel municipality

Please play with the settings as needed, I think I got it pretty close. I tried to center it on a bulge in the 1949 Armistice Line that is clearly on your map and on google earth. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be nice if you could erase those Hebrew names on the map. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:59, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
 * OK.. Thanks for helping me out. I really didn't know whom to go to in order to fix this one out. the map co-ordinates you entered are not perfect - compare the maps on these two pages - 1, 2. It would be best if we would be able to decipher what co-ordinates are being used in the Hebrew wikipedia in order to get the exact co-ordinates. Since I am not able to explain what I was told by the author of the maps on IM, I prepared a translation of the information I was given in Hebrew by the person whom created the seven original close-up maps of Israel.
 * The seven original maps could be found here - a sample of the Beit She'an Area map in use, a sample of the Carmel Area map in use, a sample of the Netanya Area map in use, a sample of the North Shomron Area map in use, a sample of the Tel-Aviv Area map in use, a sample of the Upper Galilee map in use, a sample of the Upper Galilee map in use.
 * Here is a translation of the information which he gave me in Hebrew originally:
 * The upper and left co-ordinates are located in the following template (see explanation). The same template also consist of the ratios if the maps which is used to convert the co-ordinates (degrees, minutes, seconds) to pixels – from which it's possible to calculate the lower and right co-ordinates of the maps. The map system on the Hebrew wiki works differently from the map system on the English Wikipedia (when it was originally created the English Wikipedia didn’t have a map system). I currently don't have too much time to get into the English map system in order to help you out – that’s why it would be difficult for me to give you any more advice beyond that.


 * The template location DMS on the Hebrew Wikipedia serves as a generic basic template to the template { {position} }. This template accepts 18 parameters.
 * The name of the place
 * Width degrees
 * Minutes
 * Seconds
 * Length degrees
 * Minutes
 * Seconds
 * The name of the picture of the map
 * Display width of the map
 * Delta in the pixels of the width degree.
 * Delta in the pixels of the length degree.
 * Width degrees of the upper left corner of the location.
 * Minutes
 * Seconds
 * Height degrees of the upper left corner of the location.
 * Minutes
 * Seconds
 * Color of the name of the place (optional).
 * Indicator = name of a different picture (optional) which could be used which would be in the same position.
 * Indicator Size = a number (optional) which would indicate the width in pixels, the default value is 7.

Currently the template refers to the width degrees as north (N) and to the length degrees as east (E). South co-ordinates or western co-ordinates should be inserted with negative values.


 * Here are the values as used in the Hebrew wikipedia:

* Upper Galilee = * Western Galilee= * Beit Shean Valley= * Carmel = * Netanya = * Northern Shomron= * Tel Aviv area =
 * Trying to decipher this information seems impossible to me. I hope you would be able to figure it out. Acidburn24m (talk) 20:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Congratulations on the birth! And hope she/he learns soon that parents need their sleep (and their Wikipedia time):) --Kotniski (talk) 06:45, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. We had a little boy 6# 15 oz and 20 inches long.  Between the 3 year-old (pictured above in the "Tiger fans" image) and the newborn, we are getting about 3-5 hours of bad sleep a night and work is really busy. I'll be back around when I can.   &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 17:17, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Unprotecting high risk templates
Hi. Please don't unprotect high risk templates at all, as you did to Template:Convert/m2. Because there's a risk of vandalism affecting thousands of articles. This has been transcluded on almost 10.000 articles for twenty minutes (the article appeared blank when the page was too heavy). See Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents. Edit the page on behalf of the user instead. Thanks, Cena rium  Talk  15:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
 * It was only unprotected so that some editors at convert could update it. As you can see from the protection log, the unprotected status was suppose to expire: (unprotecting for editing [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed] (expires 00:39, 23 August 2008 (UTC))) (Change)


 * &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:59, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
 * There's a warning that all protection is removed at expiration time, regardless of the prior state of protection. Cena rium  Talk  20:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

MfD nomination of User:MJCdetroit/Userboxes/User pro death penalty
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 * Mfd withdrawn. I'm really, really sorry. Anyway, congrats on your new child! Have a great week. :)

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Congratulations
Congrats on the minime. Happy times! The Bald One      White cat 18:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Any chance you could?
... take a look at Template_talk:Infobox_Country? I meant to do this, but I was unsure of the syntax working properly. I trust your judgement and abilities with this one though, and would appreciate you spending a moment on it. Thanks, --<span style="font-family: Trebuchet MS, sans-serif;border:2px solid #A9A9A9;padding:1px;">Jza84 | Talk  22:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * It looked ok to me, so I changed it. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi. Could I drag you back to Template_talk:Infobox_Country, I have a question. Regards Endrick   Shellycoat  17:59, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, again. I tried your suggestion but to no avail. If you've time, could you suggest an alternative:Template_talk:Infobox_Country. Thanks much. Endrick   Shellycoat  05:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

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Barack Obama
Thank you for your contributions to the encyclopedia! In case you are not already aware, an article to which you have recently contributed is on article probation.

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Mark Hackel
You need to stop messing with the Mark Hackel Page. The page is supposed to be about him NOT his father. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xtreamdefense (talk • contribs) 07:41, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Stop messing with the page? I created the page, and defended it from being deleted.  I like Mark and think he is doing a fine job.  However, facts are facts and whitewashing that his father resigned after his conviction by saying that he retired is unacceptable.  If you would like to make any constructive edits to that page, please make the request on its talk page.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 14:15, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Weather
The additions look good. The colours for the sun look fine to me. I have noticed an odd effect on the yearly total for snow and rain. Look at Colorado Springs, Colorado, Iqaluit and Hamilton, Ontario. In the Colorado Springs it's the yaerly rain and in the other two it's the yearly snow. I checked it out on three computers and the all show the total as being on a line above the rest of the year. I tried several times but couldn't duplicate it at Cambridge Bay. Odd. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 15:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I noticed it too. It happened before one time, I'll have to remember what the fix was--an extra break or something. I'll try and work on it later tonight.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 15:24, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I think that I found the extra break. It was between the "Sun" and "Hum" coding.  I also found some other minor things.  It looks good now.  Give a shout (maybe via email) if you find other errors as I have very limited time nowadays (this weekend was the exception).  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 16:32, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks. That seems to have done the trick. With a small baby I'm not surprised that you have little time to edit. Congratulations, a bit late. CambridgeBayWeather Have a gorilla 01:14, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Niagara Scow
Just wanted to thank you for adding references to that article! Great job. cheers Deconstructhis (talk) 04:09, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It happens when you're bored. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 04:11, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I presume that old tub is still sitting out there in the upper rapids, 90 years after it lodged there. It happened a month before the Red Sox won the 1918 World Series, and when they finally won again in 2004, I wondered if the barge would break free and go over the falls. Yet there it still sits, apparently. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 05:17, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox Weather
I want to discuss about your revert of my contributions. I found some of the articles which used Infobox Weather contain "Jan_Sunshine_hours" (and Feb, Mar...etc) syntax. So I thought Infobox Weather might be used to contain these type of syntax, but no longer exist now. For convinence, why don't add "   " (and Feb, Mar...etc) syntax into the template? It will not affect anything at all. {Weltanschauung&#x262f;Ĥòĭnäþbåķtšýñ 10:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Those syntaxes never existed in the code itself. I think that they were someone's wishful thinking on the "doc" page.  I think that the best solution would be to have a bot (I've got one) or use AWB to search out the existing 666 transclusions of Infobox Weather and add change any of of the longer "_Sunshine_hours" and change them to "SUN".  That way we make it simple moving forward.  Sound good to you?  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 15:33, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I went through with AWB under User:Detroiterbot and changed them all to "_Sun". Everything should be "golden" from here on out.  See Victoria,_British_Columbia. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 12:15, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

Buckingham fountain
Please explain the edits you made to the convert tempate on this page. (I am not complaining, just wondering.) What were you intending to accomplish? Did you have the effect you intended? --DAW0001 (talk) 13:53, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a U.S. article. Therefore, the most common format in the U.S. should be used and that would be U.S. (not US) and L for liters (not l).  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 14:22, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Template:Inflation
I wish I could parse through what goes on in the Convert template, but it works brilliantly - kudos to you and others who created and tested it. However, I am a regular editor of university articles and would like a similar tool for calculating inflation between dates. Template:Inflation does this, but it's a little clunky when it comes to having to manually preface with the monetary unit, formatting issues, etc. Could you make Inflation as super wonderful as Convert is? I promise I'll swing by whatever your alma mater's or favorite university's page is and give it once over! Madcoverboy (talk) 08:46, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry I don't think I'll be able to help. Sorry.  One of the other convert editors maybe able to help.  My alma mater was Central Michigan University.  As for what happens in Convert, it's very complex, the following subtemplate may help shed some light on that: Template:Convert/unit or confuse you even more.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 21:37, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

Congrats on baby
Hey hope the little un is well. I was wondering if you could add the Korean parameters you see in Ju Jin-mo to Template:Infobox Actor. Yes I know, it is Korea that is different again  Count Blofeld   11:10, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If it's not the 3 month old it's the 3 year.  No wonder my hair is falling out.


 * This the best that I can do with the limited time (on lunch) that I have. You'll have to convince people of the need and swap the code out.  Basically, I added a new field that allows an editor to insert the whole Korean names template into that one field.


 * Here's the code: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:X7&oldid=255867624


 * Here's the one example of it being used: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:X9&oldid=255868100


 * Good Luck. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 17:16, 4 December 2008 (UTC)


 * P.S. the "X9" would be replaced with whatever the pagename is because that is how the infobox korean name does it or use "|title="

&mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 17:57, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi see Aigrefeuille-d'Aunis for instance. Any chance you can edit Template:French commune so the map displays the place label as normal but use {PAGENAME}. So on that article it would read Aigrefeuille-d'Aunis on the pin rather than blank but NOT read as "Commune of Aigrefeuille-d'Aunis". Its fine to have this at the top but we need the label on the pin to read as the name of the article (without the "COmmune of" in front of it. Understand?  Count Blofeld   15:29, 6 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Here's the code:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:X5&oldid=256281962


 * Here's it in use: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:X7&oldid=256282128


 * Good luck. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 20:06, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

Thanks  Count Blofeld   15:30, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

I was wondering if you could do the same for Template:Infobox CityIT as with France? The Bald One      White cat 17:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'll give it a look in the future. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 17:27, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

Football template
Hi, a few months ago User:Zyxw made a prototype template for me, it displays in two different ways. The discussion is here. This type of template is meant to supercede the current squads and templates which duplicate eachothers content and often display contradictory info. It would be very good if we could start rolling out a finished version before the transfer window opens in January, because if it were in use it would simplify the process of keeping football articles uptodate a great deal. The problem is that Zyxw last edited in October, when said that he was going to iron out some details and get back to me. The bald one said that you would be a good person to take a look and see if it could be simplified/improved and made more userfriendly for casual editors. I also need some help to move it to mainspace, because I don't fully understand how it works and I can't just do it myself. Any help appreciated, King of the  North   East  19:44, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I can move it and its subtemplates to the mainspace. It looks like zyxw was going to name it "Template:Fs2 player".  It also looks like he was trying to model it after Football squad player.  I don't think I can make it any more user friendly without a complete overhaul to which I don't have the time&mdash;sorry.  Besides, I don't know a thing about soccer.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 02:20, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, if you move this one and the subtemplates over into mainspace by overwriting Arsenal de Sarandí squad I should hopefully be able to usurp pre-existing templates like Argentinos Juniors squad with the new code. Regards King of the  North   East  21:33, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

Detroiterbot
Hi. I jus tnoticed that you have been running your bot cleaning up french commune boxes. Any chance you could use it to add the remaining missing infoboxes from French wikipedia? It would save us a years work  The Bald One       White cat 12:05, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
 * It looks like the bot will take longer than I had first thought. It only did 5,542 pages last night with some 11,400 pages left.  Then rinse and repeat.  And I can only run it from home and not work.


 * As to your question: it would take some head scratching.  I don't know how a bot would copy the infobox from wikipedia français and paste it into English wikipedia.  And I don't think the bot is approved for that.  I'd have to check the fine print.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 13:13, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I think User:Fritzpoll has the knowledge of how to do it. If you could speak to him about it and probably get BAG approval or by User:MBisanzI think it would be possible  The Bald One       White cat 14:36, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
 * That's what I've always done with Polish villages and so on - taken infobox information from Polish WP and pasted it into English WP (but with images you need to check if they are available on commons; and various other checks are probably advisable). Let me know if I can be of any assistance - but preferably in the New Year, as I'm off on a bit of a break now. Seasonal wishes to one and all :-) Kotniski (talk) 15:38, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

MPG conversion &mdash; not quite done!
Hi, MJCD. Thanks for changing km/L to L/100km, but there remains a problem with Template:Convert's handling of MPG that needs fixed right away, please. Use &amp;nbsp;&amp;bull;&amp;nbsp; to separate the two converted outputs to yield 18 miles per US gallon (13 L/100 km &bull; 22 mpg-imp), or as a second preference use &amp;nbsp;&amp;mdash;&amp;nbsp; to yield 18 miles per US gallon (13 L/100 km &mdash; 22 mpg -imp ). Either way, the slash as separator between the two converted outputs has to go away in a hurry, please, because it makes the output very difficult to parse (at best). Also, if there is a way to have the initial unit abbreviated in accord with the output units to yield 18 mpg-US (13 L/100 km &bull; 22 mpg-imp), please state it. Thanks! —<span style="font:bold 11px Arial;display:inline;border:#151B8D 1px solid;background-color:#FFFF00;padding:0 4px 0 4px;">Scheinwerfermann T&middot;C 06:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but that is extremely difficult (for me) to do and/or time consuming to do. At least to do it to just the mpg conversions.  See the multiple conversions are controlled from a central location.  Therefore, it doesn't only affect the mpg templates it affects stuff like Liters to U.S. and Imperial gallons (100 L) or nautical miles to kilometers and miles (100 nmi).  And I've even wanted to do something of this nature.  I like the bullet idea.  I'll remember that.  Maybe we can change all of them to the bullets.  Something that would require more discussion.  Merry Christmas. &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 12:17, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

infobox French commune
Hi, I noticed a problem in your temporary infobox version. If (like at Albaret-le-Comtal) the input for the commune area (field "area_km2") has a decimal comma, as it is common in France, the comma is ignored. The result is a 100x bigger area (2956 km2 in this case). It must be a feature of the magic word formatnum. Do you have an idea how to solve that, for instance a check for commas in the template? It's quite a lot of work to check all the communes manually. Since virtually no commune is larger than 1000 km2, I don't expect any "real" digit separators in this field. Markussep Talk 08:56, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I am fixing it. If you look at the recent edit summaries, you'll notice a rev8. Rev 8 includes the fix for the area (see here).  The bot needs to make 2 sweeps anyway to complete the upgrade, so any of the pages like Alaret-le-Comtal that were missed will be fixed in the next few days when the bot makes the second sweep. Thanks for the warning.  Merry Christmas &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 12:01, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Good work! Markussep Talk 13:27, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

Football template
Hi, I moved those templates into mainspace see here. There is a glitch I can't seem to figure out. Why can I edit directly from the navbox ([v] [d] [e]) but when I try to do it from the current squad it doesn't work? I have tried changing the name= parameter. I can't understand the problem because it doesn't occur on the Arsenal de Sarandí squad which is coded the same. Could you look into it for me please, regards King of the  North   East  02:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I took out the "PAGENAME" part because the Pagename was "Argentinos Juniors" not "Argentinos Juniors squad". The  seemed to take care of that, but then it needed to be "Template:Argen..."


 * So I added Template: and it seems to be working ok. Double check it.  Merry Christmas &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 05:25, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks mate, it seems to work OK now, regards King of the  North   East  21:03, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Hi again, 2 things that I have noticed, 2 minor additional parameters are needed. The first to allow the 2nd name to be Initialled in the navbox in the case of players with the same last name seen in this example nos 28 & 29. A paramater for the code '''|navbox last display=D. Romero|''' the other is the opposite thing, in like Miguel Ángel Sebastián Romero who is commonly known as Sebastián Romero, his name appears quite long winded on the table here. Another parameter like |table first display=Sebastián| would solve the issue. I hope it is not too much bother for you to make these fixes and I apologise for not knowing how to do it myself and pestering you do it. Kind regards King of the  North   East  00:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

Merry Christmas
<div style="background:crimson;border:5px ridge lime;color:gold;font-family:monotype corsiva;font-size:200%"> Hello MJCdetroit! I just wanted to wish you and your family (including the litte baby) a merry Christmas! May this Christmas be full of great cheer and holiday spirit. Have a great day and a wonderful New Year, from  The Bald One       White cat 12:00, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Template talk:Venues of Ukrainian PL
yea, but I have a really difficult time to fix that with all of these wiki-restrictions. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 19:05, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Location map
Hi Detroit,

Thanks for letting me know how to use location maps! I'll try to remember to impliment them on future location articles.

Happy editing,

Neelix (talk) 19:43, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Weather templates
Hi - I gather there's already some history re Infobox Weather and Climate chart (e.g. Templates for deletion/Log/2007 July 17). I hope you don't mind me bringing this up (again). You've probably surmised I prefer the chart format. I do, since it's smaller, and without the cacophony of colors, demands far less attention (and is easier to grok, at least for someone whose brain works like mine - which is perhaps not a resounding endorsement). In any event, I just wanted to drop by and make sure you're not finding this annoying. BTW - congrats on the kid (your second, right?). -- Rick Block (talk) 04:21, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yeap #2 and as of yesterday he's 16# 12oz and all muscle.


 * I tdf'd that when it first came out. Since then it has had some additional development and I wouldn't tdf it again.  Unless of course, we can some how combine the two in a nice fashion and that's what I've been trying/hoping to do.  My thoughts were that it would be pretty cool if the template could shrink down to just the chart size, if desired, while still having a "show" button for the table and vise-versa.  In a sandbox, I've got them combined, but I haven't been able to hide the table part yet and I don't know how to shrink the template in a horizontal fashion.  If you have any ideas let me know.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 13:28, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Germany location
Hi MJC. I've requested that we reform the current German infobox at Template:Infobox German location to have the map at 220 px with location header underneath the coat of arms set at 80 without its own blue header but just a coat of arms note. Current arrangement is Hockenheim. Now see this example and the Template talk:Infobox German location and the change with the coat of arms and map proportions and alignments I'd like to see. Perhaps also with the anetated place label on the map too and coordinates and also a smaller pin? Could you copy the documenatation and draw up a revised template at Template:Infobox German location/sandbox. There seems to be no objections from those concerned with the German municipalities if you do so. thanks  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 15:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I looked at the code and I'm not comfortable in making the changes [to the main template] right away: both for technical and discussion based reasons (Fighting about this infobox drove User:52 Pickup from wikipedia for good). I suggest letting the discussion develop beyond just two editors.  Maybe leave a message over at the German project to gather more opinions.  In the mean time, I'll see what I can do in the sandbox; the code is complex.  &mdash; <b style="color:#0000CD">MJC</b><b style="color:#FF0000">detroit</b> (yak) 03:26, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Some editors are insisting that File:Canada geopolitical map trim.jpg is a good choice of map to use for Canadian settlements. I disagree and think it quite unsuitable to be used in articles for pin, looks cluttered. A blank map Template:Location map Canada would be better for places in Nunavat which don't have provincial maps. See the revert here. Any thoughts? I think its time we sorted out these maps of Canada. Ideally we need a decent blank svg locator showing terriorities for Canada. I've been creating some better maps of the provinces anyway. Dr. Blofeld      White cat 10:44, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

The reverter however has said he would be happy to use File:Canada location map.svg. Could you please see if you can find the coordinates for this and edit Template:Location map Canada. Thanks  Dr. Blofeld       White cat 14:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Trouble on a transcluded page 2.0
I noticed that you work on convert frequently. Please read Template talk:Convert as soon as you can. --<b style="color:#355E3B">droll</b> <b style="color:#704214">&#91;chat&#93;</b> 18:15, 12 March 2009 (UTC)